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still_one

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27. I read the article, and the first 2/3 of the article he makes the case that they voted no because
Mon Jun 5, 2017, 04:49 AM
Jun 2017

they accept campaign contributions from Pharma. It was only after 2/3 of the way into the article, he briefly quotes one of the people who voted no, Coons, who expressed safety concerns to justify his vote. He then goes on to opine why those safety concerns have no basis, throws some unsourced data without basic details, but still leaving the reader to wonder if we are talking apples to apples.

What should have been done, is he should have followed through with those who voted no because of "safety concerns", by presenting them with the argument that those safety concerns are already addressed, and why are they still using that as a reason?

As I have stated, Tabbi doesn't always make correct conclusions. The example I used was his view that it is highly unlikely that there was Russian involvement in our election or with members of the trump team. The reasoning he used was because we were lied to about the WMDs. That is comparing apples with oranges.

He should be following through, and if they refused to answer why they still believe there are safety concerns, then that makes the case for Tabbi.

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American government is the best money can buy. Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #1
Any rep beholden to corporations over people need to go immediately. onecaliberal Jun 2017 #2
Why didn't Matt Tabbi tell us why they voted No? mhw Jun 2017 #3
He told us enough and we thank him for it. CentralMass Jun 2017 #54
He didn't say why they didn't vote for it, and their reason(s) made a lot of sense. George II Jun 2017 #91
Found this statement for some clarification. Don't know why Tabbi didn't print this mhw Jun 2017 #4
Safety reasons? HarmonyRockets Jun 2017 #5
That isn't the point. Tabbi is notorious for not presenting a complete story, which would still_one Jun 2017 #7
You clearly didn't read the article melman Jun 2017 #15
No you clearly didn't. Taibbi wrote a very misleading article. nt pnwmom Jun 2017 #17
I read the article, and the first 2/3 of the article he makes the case that they voted no because still_one Jun 2017 #27
"the first 2/3 of the article he makes the case that they voted no because.... George II Jun 2017 #94
They are guilty because the get campaign contributions. Typical Tabbi judgmental arrogance still_one Jun 2017 #101
Matt Taibbi hates Democrats, no doubt he's a huge disappointment to his father. George II Jun 2017 #102
.................... still_one Jun 2017 #105
You know what else he has written lately? He thinks the media pnwmom Jun 2017 #19
What an arrogant ass he is still_one Jun 2017 #103
Tabbi is a Sanders shill and Hillary hater. Point being no matter what if you go against anything nikibatts Jun 2017 #43
Do whut now...??? (eom) CanSocDem Jun 2017 #52
So it sounds like you support the killing of this bill and the ammendment. CentralMass Jun 2017 #53
I too would pretend that anyone's belief someone is shill makes it sound LanternWaste Jun 2017 #84
And the "article" doesn't appear to be dated, I think this vote took place a month ago. George II Jun 2017 #90
That would explain it. So it's probably just a rehash of earlier hit pieces. pnwmom Jun 2017 #104
It always seems to be the reason mvd Jun 2017 #8
If they argue it is safety concerns, then they should be able to explain why they still still_one Jun 2017 #30
He does point out the pattern well though mvd Jun 2017 #44
The issue to me is Pat Murray and Mike Bennetf'ng us over. CentralMass Jun 2017 #56
That's fine, but it is also reasonable to inquire if their concerns on safety are justified. still_one Jun 2017 #66
The gullible people are the ones who think they can safely order from pnwmom Jun 2017 #16
Tabbi is stating that safety concerns been addressed. Is he right? He lists some unsourced data, still_one Jun 2017 #33
He's wrong. What IS true is that many drugs sold by US manufacturers pnwmom Jun 2017 #35
I realize that pnwmom, the FDA insures drugs sold by US manufacturers that are produced in other still_one Jun 2017 #37
I just added another link about how difficult a challenge this already is. pnwmom Jun 2017 #38
That is great information, and just how complicated it is. Thanks still_one Jun 2017 #39
It sums it up well at the end. pnwmom Jun 2017 #40
And why 10 minutes isn't enough time to consider an amendment. LisaM Jun 2017 #127
They don't even pass though Canda, pnwmom. brer cat Jun 2017 #114
Right, that's true. But some do pretend to be coming from a Canadian pharmacy pnwmom Jun 2017 #115
Yes safetly reasons. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #110
Good for you mhw. I was thinking about posting that myself, but seeing that it was a Tabbi story, still_one Jun 2017 #6
Wait, Matt Taibbi doesn't think there is evidence of Russian interference in the election? SunSeeker Jun 2017 #10
When Tabbi came out with his assertion that we shouldn't believe that there was Russian still_one Jun 2017 #11
He's just proven himself to be a non-credible source. mhw Jun 2017 #21
I trust Tabbi as much as I trust Cenk. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #111
And they freak out when anti-Trump messages are posted from Mensch, Taylor, & Palmer. mhw Jun 2017 #112
I see you are as aware of Taibbi's odd stance on this issue as I am! n/t pnwmom Jun 2017 #22
I just lost all respect for Taibbi. He is not a journalist if he sticks his head in the sand. SunSeeker Jun 2017 #74
Just look at all the great things Sen Murray is busy with lately: mhw Jun 2017 #20
Well she was the one of only twodemocrats to screw us on this one. CentralMass Jun 2017 #57
She did no such thing...geez...Why do folks want to run Democrats down... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #98
You found that where exactly? melman Jun 2017 #13
Oh matt taibbi.. I wondered when I Cha Jun 2017 #23
And to you also Cha! mhw Jun 2017 #25
And yet he wrote what, I think, is the best sentence in the world about Wall Street: SharonAnn Jun 2017 #55
They couldn't just have called Liz or Bernie's staff? or ASKED Liz or Bernie? Ken Burch Jun 2017 #107
Did this bill have a chance in hell anyway? customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #9
Taibbi has written a very misleading article. Patty Murray supports a bill pnwmom Jun 2017 #14
Thanks pnwmom. That's the part he omitted. mhw Jun 2017 #26
Right. As you remember, this was all hashed out months ago, pnwmom Jun 2017 #129
What a bunch of weaklings. mhw Jun 2017 #133
I get at least one of my drugs from a Canadian pharmacy customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #125
Well, that's good. But that's like saying "I smoke cigarettes and don't have cancer." pnwmom Jun 2017 #128
I guess I don't understand that analogy customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #131
I'm saying you were fortunate.. But people have died because they took pnwmom Jun 2017 #132
Murray isn't bought & paid for. Tabbi wants you to think that's why she voted no. mhw Jun 2017 #24
He also thinks the media has been making too much of the Russia hacking story. pnwmom Jun 2017 #41
This is a Republican bill. lapucelle Jun 2017 #75
It is a bad bill as all bills by the lose GOP are. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #99
Don't confuse people with truth! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #116
Not with a select few democrats who seem to be playing tag team to kill it. CentralMass Jun 2017 #60
It's a sloppy amendment to a Republican bill that never had a chance. pnwmom Jun 2017 #77
Then why did Murray and Bennet swap places with Booker and Menendez on second vote ? CentralMass Jun 2017 #82
They didn't "swap places." This is about a Committee vote on an amendment pnwmom Jun 2017 #83
No Trump would veto it if it made it through congress...just more pot sots Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #97
True customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #126
I would agree with that...the GOP is counting on the Dems love for the country to pull their fat out Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #134
Once again Matt Taibbi has written a misleading article about Democrats. pnwmom Jun 2017 #12
Exactly. Good read. mhw Jun 2017 #28
Makes me wonder about the years he spent living in Russia pnwmom Jun 2017 #29
Geezus..Tabbi has a past with Russia too? ! mhw Jun 2017 #32
The truth is we keep having one or two democrats like Booker and Menendez, or Bennet Murray killing CentralMass Jun 2017 #58
Catch up. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #124
Letting perfect be the enemy of the good? nt Doremus Jun 2017 #63
I am amazed at how many on 'our side' keep getting played by him. nini Jun 2017 #73
Extremely misleading. For more info, please read this: Tanuki Jun 2017 #18
Thanks. Explains the topic very well. Quite an interesting read mhw Jun 2017 #31
Wow, that is a very good layout of the issues involved. It really isn't as clear cut as the OP still_one Jun 2017 #34
Sounds like the same thing that went down 5 months ago tirebiter Jun 2017 #36
This is not a "Sanders-Warren" bill. lapucelle Jun 2017 #42
so it was bullshit. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #48
If someone writes a hit piece on Dems these days justiceischeap Jun 2017 #45
More hits on Democrats...these folks favor Republicans clearly. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #47
Bullshit. I side with all of the Democrats who voted for this bill and praise Taibbi for writing the CentralMass Jun 2017 #59
It was in January...and he acts like it just happened...it was going nowhere Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #61
Our political system wreaks and these politicians represent their corporate masters, not us. CentralMass Jun 2017 #65
Taibbi is a bad guy and trying to destroy the Democratic Party...I read nothing Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #95
No, the amendment under discussion was just considered on May 11. Demit Jun 2017 #78
As I pointed out...it is still the same thing... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #93
Different amendments. Get them straight. Demit Jun 2017 #117
Did you read what I posted? Both amendments are worthless...both. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #122
Bad amendment that would require a Canadian prescription... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #96
And if they had voted for it it would have been 13-12...let Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #46
You are promoting a right wing source that is misleading at best and I think an out and Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #49
This took place in January by the way... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #50
It took place May 11. Read the article again. Demit Jun 2017 #79
Read below ....It was ruled as misleading in January Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #92
You got the amendments mixed up. Own it. Demit Jun 2017 #118
I believed that the article referred to the January one-never denied it...but Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #121
MATT TAIBBI IS A MEANIE MEANIE POOPIE HEAD!!1!!!!! QC Jun 2017 #51
No no no Matt Taibbi is a Sacred Cow emulatorloo Jun 2017 #108
As always, FOLLOW THE MONEY. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #62
I remember that this shit--It was used as a "Bash Corey Booker" club ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #64
Two blown opportunities due to two democrats voting no and those who. CentralMass Jun 2017 #67
Have you read up on why the no vote? ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #68
Yes i have but i find it hard to believe that nearly entire body of the senate, incuding: CentralMass Jun 2017 #71
So you believe Senator Murray is corrupt. ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #85
Do you understand that many of the Canadian pharmaceutical companies from whom.... George II Jun 2017 #120
But, Murray and Bennet are Democrats so all is well... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #69
SSDD. Divide, divide, divide. The Republican bill is now a Warren-Sanders Bill? FSogol Jun 2017 #70
It was a Sanders-Warren amendment to a bill... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #72
According to Taibbi's revisionist narrative, the bill introduced by Lamar Alexander lapucelle Jun 2017 #80
Did you read the article? Or even the OP's post? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #81
So in other words, lapucelle Jun 2017 #123
murray is our congress person... samnsara Jun 2017 #76
Thanks. She needs to know where this BS is coming from, mhw Jun 2017 #113
Ah, I see it's Patty Murray's turn this week mcar Jun 2017 #86
Glad to see this posted.. disillusioned73 Jun 2017 #87
Politifact says "mostly false" mcar Jun 2017 #88
Didn't this vote occur about a month ago, and was vigorously discussed back then? George II Jun 2017 #89
sorry, got better things to do with time these days Amimnoch Jun 2017 #100
I live in Washington State now... liberalmuse Jun 2017 #106
Taibbi is lying....see this: George II Jun 2017 #109
And politifact rated this claim as mostly false ... Greywing Jun 2017 #119
Taibbi's Russian connections bear looking into. nt Persisted Jun 2017 #130
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