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4th law of robotics

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297. That is not true
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 01:42 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/03/jobs-report-women_n_1253092.html


Salary is quite obviously not the only factor employers & interviewers consider when deciding whom to hire. I thought that would be obvious enough for even the most casual observer to notice. Perhaps not.


So women aren't paid less then?

You keep dancing around the issue. You have claimed women get paid 70% of what men get paid for the exact same job/quality of work.

Now you're saying that it isn't all about salary.

Make up your mind. Are women oppressed by the evil maleocracy via lower wages or are they oppressed by the evil maleocracy via other means? I'd like to know exactly how I am oppressing you.
It is an interesting book. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #1
if you are in favor of equality, do MRA's ever argue on the side of a woman, ever? CreekDog Jul 2012 #23
I think you're going to have a bit tougher job if you want to try to impeach Warren Farrell Major Nikon Jul 2012 #42
And, NOW kicked his ass to the curb when he became pro incest obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #43
Do you actually have any proof of your assertions this time? Major Nikon Jul 2012 #79
Warren Farrell quotes for you and all (sounds like a Republican...) CreekDog Jul 2012 #88
I'll take that as a no Major Nikon Jul 2012 #91
you're asking me to post his defenses of incest? Heck no. You can put that crap under your name CreekDog Jul 2012 #93
That's not what I asked Major Nikon Jul 2012 #95
you're asking me to prove that he defended incest CreekDog Jul 2012 #97
Why are you afraid to post a quote? You're aware that people won't attribute the quote to you, EOTE Jul 2012 #150
yeah i don't want those quotes under my name, yes, i really don't. CreekDog Jul 2012 #166
Obviously, pipoman Jul 2012 #178
I googled it - and I'm disgusted and I don't blame you for not posting Coexist Jul 2012 #250
Thank you CreekDog Jul 2012 #254
I did, too. redqueen Jul 2012 #263
OMG! ceile Jul 2012 #278
Gack!!! I need EYEBALL bleach! kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #305
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #68
Projection. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #121
Really? "Interesting" instead of bigoted or flawed or... (something more accurate) nt riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #41
Perhaps "interesting" as in... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #66
*snerk* cyberswede Jul 2012 #109
A deeply flawed social commentary. riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #2
I have never seen an anti-male post in this forum. 2nd...that book premise is hogwash. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #3
Oh you should read some of the drivel posted here unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #7
When we females ask you to explain why certain men act a way... EXPLAIN Fawke Em Jul 2012 #22
HEY! elleng Jul 2012 #28
Has it ever dawned on you that .. 99Forever Jul 2012 #46
Except that isn't what the poster said, at all obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #51
That is precisely what the poster said. 99Forever Jul 2012 #53
Much as people should never expect one member of a religious faith to explain...? LanternWaste Jul 2012 #137
Ahh yes! 99Forever Jul 2012 #147
Has it ever dawned on you that we ask to learn? Fawke Em Jul 2012 #181
On what do you base that absurd speculation? 99Forever Jul 2012 #185
you made me laugh. kwassa Jul 2012 #285
There are ~3.5 billion males on this planet 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #107
Why does Sara Palin act the way she does? EXPLAIN! n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #205
That is incredibly sexist and insulting MadrasT Jul 2012 #266
I would suggest that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #131
We often see merely what we wish to see... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #136
So, if an office has a misogynist who makes all the women uncomfortable, EOTE Jul 2012 #151
Dont'cha Know ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #130
Farrell was never "Director" of NOW obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #4
I hope you watched the whole video Dokkie Jul 2012 #38
Farrell is MRA obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #44
Stop digging your own grave. Really. Just stop. riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #48
I think you are really missing the point Dokkie Jul 2012 #56
Nope, I am not missing the point riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #60
At what price? Dokkie Jul 2012 #67
+100. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #218
It's shouldn't be about a "guy" hfojvt Jul 2012 #84
mmmmmm....no Skittles Jul 2012 #64
in which society do men have ALL power? hfojvt Jul 2012 #70
Holy fuck...Did you really just say this with a straight face? Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #113
WTF ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #132
What is MRA? RC Dec 2012 #304
Yes he was Major Nikon Jul 2012 #49
lol no, he wasn't, ever obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #52
So who is NOW's director, either then or now? Major Nikon Jul 2012 #71
He was on the Board for the New York chapter of NOW, which is not the National Board. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #54
Which would make him a director Major Nikon Jul 2012 #77
In the 1970s. Which was a long time ago. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #80
He was also a men's rights activist when he was associated with NOW Major Nikon Jul 2012 #83
What MRA orgs did he belong to while on the board of NY NOW? Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #85
I don't know that he ever has belonged to any Major Nikon Jul 2012 #92
Maybe this should be a separate topic, but does anyone else object to eridani Jul 2012 #101
Legally, incest must be consensual Nevernose Jul 2012 #127
yup it's really incestual rape. LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #286
Well-done parody REP Jul 2012 #5
I listened to the whole thing. alittlelark Jul 2012 #6
he never really lays out a thesis hfojvt Jul 2012 #59
How was the abuse thread anti-male? Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #8
Because it was on a day set aside to for Dokkie Jul 2012 #24
Commenting as a child on their father is just like being a racist. Ok. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #25
what? Dokkie Jul 2012 #30
I'll just back away slowly now. Someone else can deal with you. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #31
Nope, I didnt say that Dokkie Jul 2012 #58
LOL. OK. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #62
i put up a thread in HOF honoring fathers. i had a good father i value very much and tell seabeyond Jul 2012 #73
Uhm, its a fucking greeting card holiday ginned up for more of your dollars riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #29
Raining on your "little father's day parade" is the equivalent of a racist post Lex Jul 2012 #33
Consider the reverse: 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #108
I've seen plenty of DUers talk about trauma inflicted by their mothers. antigone382 Jul 2012 #124
Every prognostication is true... until it comes to pass LanternWaste Jul 2012 #138
what if my dad wasn't Martin Luther King, Jr.? CreekDog Jul 2012 #105
I dunno. I just get sick of being told unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #9
On what planet? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #74
lol. morningfog Jul 2012 #208
"couldn't' get a scholarship for any college because most of them were reserved for women. Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #241
Here we go. unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #243
You haven't responded to the issues in my post. Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #245
There is no "reverse discrimination". There's only one kind. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #246
Since women now outnumber men handily in highschool/college graduation rates 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #249
Can't say you've made a clear point. Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #287
Simple premise. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #289
ERA isn't law. Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #290
That long post was completely and entirely nonresponsive to my very simple question. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #291
I said "Good day". Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #292
Results of the alert on this OP stevenleser Jul 2012 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #20
Well, to be honest, I was voter #1, and If I knew then what I know now, I would have voted to hide stevenleser Jul 2012 #21
Wow I guess I learned something as well. Excuse me while I delete my post... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #26
I am surprised that you didn't find the content of the OP objectionable in and of itself. demmiblue Jul 2012 #32
I find MANY opinions to be objectionable. That doesn't mean I want them banned or hidden. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #40
No, I don't want posts hidden that discuss alternate points of view. However... demmiblue Jul 2012 #55
Probably because the alerter posted a link filled with garbage that had zero to do with the author Major Nikon Jul 2012 #99
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #118
if males were any more disadvantaged, just imagine what could happen! CreekDog Jul 2012 #11
Zero-sum gaming is not the answer. boppers Jul 2012 #72
+ 1,000,000,000 Tsiyu Jul 2012 #112
no arely staircase Jul 2012 #231
Farrell's positive incest and date rape links obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #12
I wish the alerter had included those links in the alert. stevenleser Jul 2012 #14
He is rather notorious obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #18
Figures. Lex Jul 2012 #15
What about The Myth of White Power? When will that be posted here? Lex Jul 2012 #13
Amen CreekDog Jul 2012 #17
oooooh, third rail. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #76
Give him another couple of hours, since he's on a roll... Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #116
It is posted all the time ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #155
Pro-incest? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2012 #16
And, also an advocate against the Violence Against Women Act obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #19
So are you going to state your objections Dokkie Jul 2012 #27
"violent reactions to ideas of incest . . . . I think those reactions are cultural" Lex Jul 2012 #34
!!!! riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #35
little did you know you would get the opportunity to argue with Mr. Farrell himself CreekDog Jul 2012 #94
Again, you are putting word into my mouth Dokkie Jul 2012 #47
nice knowing you (well not really) CreekDog Jul 2012 #89
You think anti incest beliefs are cultural??? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #36
Fuck Warren Ferrell. morningfog Jul 2012 #209
K&R 99Forever Jul 2012 #37
How do you feel about Farrell's pro incest views? obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #45
Dokkie just stated that he didn't agree with them, but then in his own words... CreekDog Jul 2012 #90
because the real "rights" they want Skittles Dec 2012 #307
He isn't pro-incest Major Nikon Jul 2012 #98
Farrell is not a psychologist! That is 100% not true obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #100
And as eridani wisely pointed out above, rape is the word for what Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #103
It's quite obvious you are being played Major Nikon Jul 2012 #165
thanks for the information Dokkie Jul 2012 #183
Here's the really sad part about those who try to smear him Major Nikon Jul 2012 #188
So how did he get away with teaching psychology at the UC School of Medicine? Major Nikon Jul 2012 #106
No, he's pro "Family Sex". morningfog Jul 2012 #210
I remember when the Thinkpol was trying to claim Kinsey was trying to promote homosexuality Major Nikon Jul 2012 #213
lol. "Family Sex" is his term, not mine. morningfog Jul 2012 #215
As if that makes any difference Major Nikon Jul 2012 #216
You're funny! morningfog Jul 2012 #220
Now that's funny Major Nikon Jul 2012 #221
Why don't you tell us what he has said about Family Sex? morningfog Jul 2012 #222
No problem Major Nikon Jul 2012 #224
I thought this was a link to an Onion article.. seriously.. left coaster Jul 2012 #39
maybe you should watch it first before commenting Dokkie Jul 2012 #50
Maybe you would be a better fit for a site like free republic. nt left coaster Jul 2012 #57
LOL EFerrari Jul 2012 #61
More like: Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #115
poor widdle guy Skittles Jul 2012 #63
STOP IT! You're oppressing me with your Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #117
Yes, we're reminded of how powerful we are everytime we get a paycheck Warpy Jul 2012 #65
Except most men don't consider themselves "predators" or women as "prey" unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #75
Then who keeps propagating it in our culture? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #78
Everyone who says that women = victims? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #204
Who said anything about abuse? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #228
I know exactly what you are talking about Dokkie Jul 2012 #82
Control for all relevant factors 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #110
This is why I actively abandoned feminism.. sendero Jul 2012 #240
Blind squirrel just stumbled over a nut. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #203
He's been pushing this drivel for decades. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #69
Does Warren Farrell even REALIZE what is really going on? Zalatix Jul 2012 #81
There are already more unemployed men than women. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #175
Posted by Dokkie. Quelle surprise! nt pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #85
Posted by Dokkie. Quelle surprise! pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #87
Perfectly fine to counteract the more extreme forms of feminism... Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #96
Prepare to be flamed. unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #111
I pointed out that a feminist that was cited 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #114
Kind of scary that unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #119
Oh sorry if I wasn't clear 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #120
Yes, those anti-rape feminists need to be balanced by pro-rape geek tragedy Jul 2012 #190
Warren farrell is not a psychologist obamanut2012 Jul 2012 #102
I won't waste my broadband time on something like 10 minutes of lies by a liar BlueToTheBone Jul 2012 #104
Nothing in any of the negative posts here suggests that they listened to the clip. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #122
They don't have to listen because it's all lies 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #123
Nor does it deny it... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #143
Poop. Just Do The Math of Male Power. Zorra Jul 2012 #125
And thus, we must blame every male in existence unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #126
A VERY salient point. 99Forever Jul 2012 #129
Exactly. unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #145
Men ARE the problem ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #156
There's plenty of women helping with that, too. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #157
True that ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #158
Amen. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #160
I'm sorry but unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #159
It makes no sense ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #164
That was beautifully stated. redqueen Jul 2012 #167
Yes, It was. I sure wish I could just take off white privilege like a sweater when it gets warmer eridani Jul 2012 #237
Another beautifully stated post. redqueen Jul 2012 #244
This message was self-deleted by its author unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #168
I feel no need to apologize for the actions of others Major Nikon Jul 2012 #162
"Men are the problem" =/= "ALL men are the problem" Taverner Jul 2012 #273
*sigh*...The poop pit grows ever deeper. If you want to feel guilty about something, that's your Zorra Jul 2012 #301
I hate to say this; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #128
Do you consider yourself part of the dominant sub population? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #135
I am ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #148
That didn't make a lick of sense. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #172
Apparently you read things to say what you wish for them to say ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #207
Okay... lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #212
So can you answer the question Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #177
I did answer the question ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #277
+100 Taverner Jul 2012 #274
There's this funny dynamic between that which has been given artificial ascendence & authenticity. patrice Jul 2012 #133
Male Rights Advocates/Organizations ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #134
They are nothing alike. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #139
B.S., ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #149
Thank you JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #152
I hereby pledge ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #154
I'm glad you posted here today. Starry Messenger Jul 2012 #171
Numerical superiority has everything to do with electoral power. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #173
That is an intellectual bankrupt comment to make Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #179
Not at all ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #211
Sounds like you have a wide range of experience on the subject Major Nikon Jul 2012 #217
Rec'd by the host of DU's Men's Group. nt redqueen Jul 2012 #140
Seriously? JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #153
LOL, surely you're not actually surprised. redqueen Jul 2012 #161
Nooooooo JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #163
Can I do it twice? It's an EXCELLENT book. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #174
SCUM WAS SATIRE unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #180
Sure, men wanting a license to rape is always relevant. geek tragedy Jul 2012 #226
What a load of RW horeshit. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #141
The speaker engages in a most wonderfully imaginative false equivalency LanternWaste Jul 2012 #142
"Trash This Thread". no text Quantess Jul 2012 #144
Also, for the record; unreadierLizard Jul 2012 #146
Facts don't matter Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #176
I have yet to find a "Men's Rights Activist" with anything useful to say Dash87 Jul 2012 #169
That is a pretty bold blanket statement... Mike_Valentine Jul 2012 #170
Gettin' kinda hysterical there, are ya? Tsiyu Jul 2012 #182
I don't think that word means what you think it means... Mike_Valentine Jul 2012 #184
I don't think you know what "broad brush attack" means Tsiyu Jul 2012 #187
Again... Mike_Valentine Jul 2012 #194
Equal rights for everyone - yes. That's why I dislike MRA groups. Dash87 Jul 2012 #197
You could say the same 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #186
Except it's not true about feminists, who are about empowering geek tragedy Jul 2012 #191
Oh of course, any group you agree with 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #192
The false equivalence, both-sides-do it crap is ignorant at best. geek tragedy Jul 2012 #195
There you go again 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #199
Feminists aren't regarded as hate groups by the SPLC. Dash87 Jul 2012 #196
All I found on their site 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #198
This rape apologist has supporters here? geek tragedy Jul 2012 #189
I run the risk of being hated by feminists Monaque22 Jul 2012 #193
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #225
Oh dear Monaque22 Jul 2012 #230
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jul 2012 #264
But your post made me laugh Monaque22 Jul 2012 #282
Objections to this post are all essentially the Jane Fonda gambit. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #200
The title alone is enough to discredit this OP. The "men's rights activist" seal the condemnation. morningfog Jul 2012 #202
I have never met an MRA who is not a misogynist asshole. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #219
MRA= Misogynist Rights Asshole. morningfog Jul 2012 #223
The title of this thread refers to his pro-rape screed of the same title. geek tragedy Jul 2012 #227
You've just demonstrated that you've never read it. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #232
Oh noez! Uppity women with opinions!! To the MRA Treehouse! Retreat! LeftyMom Jul 2012 #229
They're not opinions, they're attitudes. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #233
Feminism As Faith SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #235
I quit reading at "men's rights activist." morningfog Jul 2012 #201
Good For You SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #238
I don't engage in bullshit. I am already aware of that line of thought. morningfog Jul 2012 #239
"We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting morningfog Jul 2012 #206
Date fraud? redqueen Jul 2012 #247
"claiming that if women are just paid a little bit less than men, that's ok." 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #248
You, yourself, called it "trivial", in this very thread. redqueen Jul 2012 #252
Ah, so you misunderstood what others write 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #253
The fact is, women are far more often paid less for the same work. redqueen Jul 2012 #255
Actually in no way is that established fact 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #258
Yep, and global waming isn't real, either. redqueen Jul 2012 #259
But strawmen are 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #260
I work in the public sector KansDem Jul 2012 #281
No, it's not corporatism IMO. redqueen Jul 2012 #293
It's an interesting catch-22 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #294
Overly simplistic thinking there. redqueen Jul 2012 #295
And yet this greater unemployment shouldn't factor into wage gap discussions? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #296
How did you get that from my statement? redqueen Jul 2012 #298
Phew. I'm glad there's no "wailing, bleating and crying". lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #302
That is not true 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #297
Good god. redqueen Jul 2012 #299
I rarely get embarrassed for other people 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #300
You know, date fraud, when the women says no, but her body is saying yes. morningfog Jul 2012 #256
Oh, God... redqueen Jul 2012 #257
Welcome to the new DU! Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2012 #303
When a feminist says the same thing, is it still disgusting? Major Nikon Jul 2012 #262
Oh look, the fanboy is back! morningfog Jul 2012 #265
Maybe look up "erotophilia" and get back to us. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #267
Sorry to disappoint, but namecalling and false allegations have no effect on me Major Nikon Jul 2012 #268
"The "no means no" meme is bullshit. The fact is that no sometimes means yes." morningfog Jul 2012 #275
Brilliant! Major Nikon Jul 2012 #276
what the fucking FUCK? bettyellen May 2014 #308
That's "Date Fraud"????? Taverner Jul 2012 #272
you know the old "she was asking for it" LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #283
I'd like to know too... Taverner Jul 2012 #271
I can't get sound on my computer but I did look up information about the book Nikia Jul 2012 #214
I vote we take this guy... Prophet 451 Jul 2012 #234
Talk vs. Action SoDesuKa Jul 2012 #236
Pseudo-intellectual psycho-babble. Sans__Culottes Jul 2012 #242
Can't watch now Rabid_Rabbit Jul 2012 #251
Listening to the brief interview Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #261
It's a good book, but some of the statistics are outdated. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #270
I am familiar with Warren Farrell. Angry white male throwing a tantrum. See: Scott Adams, Dave Sim Taverner Jul 2012 #269
Anyone who calls a victim of incest a "participant", ceile Jul 2012 #279
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jul 2012 #280
Sorry, but when an author feels compelled to put "PhD" on the cover of his book malthaussen Jul 2012 #284
No one to ignore but a good thread to trash. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #288
yet another guy with mommy issues Skittles Dec 2012 #306
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