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24. Interestingly, the original Noah was more intelligent
Sun Jul 8, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jul 2012

Scholars believe the Hebrew version was derived from an earlier Sumerian version. Abraham was born in modern-day Iraq and his tribe carried the story with them when he journeyed to other lands. Utanapishtim tells a similar Noah story of a great flood in The Epic of Gilgamesh. Clearly, it makes so much more sense that a flood story would come from the delta area of The Tigris-Euphrates. The deluge was a huge local flood. Utanapishtim is said to have constructed a ship that looked much like an ark -- he specified the dimensions as did Noah -- and filled it with the SEEDS of every animal and plant. He also took craftsmen. I have to say as a story of an ancient event, this version seems more of a fanciful re-telling of a real event than the OT version which just seems a fairy tale. It reminds me of basic science fiction stories like Battlestar Galactica.

I would say Utanapishtim (known as the world's oldest man to the Sumerians) was not quite as dumb as later narratives of his story suggest. I think like all Biblical stories, much of the literal truth has long since fled leaving behind only the tantalizing shadows, no? You may be right that they are made up fables, but I wonder if those haven't been tacked on to real life-dramas of the day? I am mostly interested in discovering the kernels of historical truth. If they exist.

For some faith is enough. For me, there has to be evidence. Sorry for bending your ear. I love mythology discussions.

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They kept it on the leash and kept throwing it BAC-O's pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #1
DUzy! Nt PCIntern Jul 2012 #25
Lol!!!! XanaDUer Jul 2012 #32
stupid is as stupid does...this is some outstanding stupid spanone Jul 2012 #2
That is so ignorant of you. Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2012 #3
Silly person. God supressed their natural instincts while they were in the Ark. malthaussen Jul 2012 #4
Gawd suppressed everybody's bodily functions for the duration, just like he kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #40
Fundies told me that they took Dino EGGS on the ark, so no feeding or clean-up was required. JoePhilly Jul 2012 #44
Forget t-rex. What did all the other animals eat? Not to mention how did they fit that uppityperson Jul 2012 #5
BabyJesus™ has a shrink ray. DUHHH. xfundy Jul 2012 #7
Good grief, Jesus wasn't on the ark. That was Noah. Jesus wasn't for another couple thousand yrs. uppityperson Jul 2012 #13
There are nearly 1 million different species of insects alone aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #9
This link says all he took were farm animals which leads me to wonder where koala bears came from uppityperson Jul 2012 #14
From the koala bear farm pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #18
What I want to know is where the duckbilled platypi came from. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #41
Maybe it had to do with the closeness of all those animals in the ark? Or it was just a joke. uppityperson Jul 2012 #43
Interestingly, the original Noah was more intelligent Generic Other Jul 2012 #24
No problem. What has gotten into the story is irksome. Seeds make more sense but... uppityperson Jul 2012 #30
I hate how humans cast both their greatest deeds and their worst as a higher power's doing Generic Other Jul 2012 #35
Ever read the book "Mister God, this is Anna"? It is annoyingly cute but has uppityperson Jul 2012 #37
I lived in a house where the previous tenant walked through a sliding glass door Generic Other Jul 2012 #38
It missed the Coulter branch MichiganVote Jul 2012 #6
wHERE's the unicorn? Generic Other Jul 2012 #8
That's easily answered: malthaussen Jul 2012 #12
Forward berth pinboy3niner Jul 2012 #17
Otherwise (due to a mistake in translation) known as "the kitchen". Buns_of_Fire Jul 2012 #21
I heard Noah carried a lot of intestinal parasites Generic Other Jul 2012 #23
No, Dinosaurs went extinct because they were not on the ark. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #10
God made him nicer, duh! Iggo Jul 2012 #11
No. They were Banging a Gong ( get it on). HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #15
Simple dietary change sarisataka Jul 2012 #16
Don't go nitpicking every piece of fiction you read... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #19
Was this before or after Zeus flooded the Earth Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #20
ROFL Mr Dixon Jul 2012 #22
There is no way I could that museum. RebelOne Jul 2012 #26
It did it did nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #27
No sillier than many other routine beliefs. Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #28
The important thing is to apply this same impeccable logic to 20score Jul 2012 #29
Robot Chicken Explains Exactly What Happened to Dinosaurs Yavin4 Jul 2012 #31
Seeing that everyone pretty much agrees that the Noah Story and other Tall Tales are KatChatter Jul 2012 #33
If you're going to start with the bible cbrer Jul 2012 #34
Eggs. Liberal Jesus Freak Jul 2012 #36
Wait that's Daenyris in GAME of THRONES Generic Other Jul 2012 #39
The myth of Noah's ark is common to MANY religions ... spin Jul 2012 #42
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