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still_one

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27. Hoyt, that has yet to be determined. You are qualifying it with "at this point".

Thu Jun 8, 2017, 09:48 PM

Jun 2017

So you understand that investigations are still going on, and all the data is not in, including the fact that Comey would not discuss some things publicly.

What came out of today's session was the following:

1. Trump is a liar
2. No special counsel was necessary for Clinton because she did nothing criminal
3. A special counsel was needed for Russian interference, and their is no fuzziness about it, Russia interfered in the 2016 election
4. Trump told Comey in private to let the Flynn election go
5. Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation

The purpose of today's session had nothing to do with whether their was collusion with Russia or not. Comey outlined clearly in a letter the night before what he was willing to discuss

As I said, and you essentially said, "it has yet to be determined"

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Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart" [View all] Joe941 Jun 2017 OP

He was the only person that kept repeating that. helpisontheway Jun 2017 #1

Stop watching/listening to Tweety theaocp Jun 2017 #2

I gave up tweety years ago he is republican light kimbutgar Jun 2017 #28

If it wasn't for Chris Matthews we could be calling Trump "Tweety." It sure fits him better. Towlie Jun 2017 #63

Well, Chris... kentuck Jun 2017 #3

And why does EVERY SINGLE person in Dolt45's administration have Russian ties? csziggy Jun 2017 #51

John McCain oldtime dfl_er Jun 2017 #4

Dumber than McCain GeorgeGist Jun 2017 #5

Matthews' mind has fallen apart. The other night it took him a dozen tries to think of WinkyDink Jun 2017 #6

I so glad that dribble no longer comes in my house. Nothing fell apart today, and in fact some still_one Jun 2017 #7

Watch Hayes, Maddow, O'Donnell, Reid spooky3 Jun 2017 #8

You're exactly right! Chris Matthews has lost his faculties IndianaDave Jun 2017 #59

He's a blubbering blowhard who blows in the wind-a total waste of time wishstar Jun 2017 #9

Well, that's it then. GallopingGhost Jun 2017 #10

Absolutely nothing said today tells you Thrill Jun 2017 #11

Tweety is a piece of SHIT. BigDemVoter Jun 2017 #12

If you only listen to news that pleases you... GaYellowDawg Jun 2017 #13

That is a great point. I would avoid Matthews not because I dsagree with him, but JCanete Jun 2017 #65

Trump is in a mess, but Matthews is correct that there was no evidence Trump colluded with Hoyt Jun 2017 #14

WTF? How can YOU possibly claim to know that?? ElementaryPenguin Jun 2017 #15

Do you have some dates and names of contacts between Trump aides and Ruskies Hoyt Jun 2017 #21

In fact, the big NYT story saying campaign associates had contacts with RUssians? - not true. jmg257 Jun 2017 #24

Good information. Hoyt Jun 2017 #25

And Rachel just pointed out how many other reports there were at the same time. jmg257 Jun 2017 #26

Except for Manafort (actual agent), Sessions, Kushner, Page, and Bannon? All WinkyDink Jun 2017 #30

So was that picture of Flynn sitting next to Putin at that circular table in Russia Samantha Jun 2017 #35

Nope. But the article describing all the "repeated contacts by campaign associates" jmg257 Jun 2017 #37

Saw the NYT author last night on TV - he was shocked and NYT has made repeated Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #46

Yep - Rachel was getting into it. Interesting to know for sure! jmg257 Jun 2017 #48

Wow - Rude to Hoyt - can't believe he was so calm in return responses !! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #44

I think you have to wait on Mueller DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #16

I pray they find something that convinced GOPers they have to take action to remove Trump. Hoyt Jun 2017 #23

He was obstructing an FBI investigation into why his major campaign surrogate spoke secretly alcibiades_mystery Jun 2017 #18

The contacts that might have involved sanctions were made in December, AFTER the election. Hoyt Jun 2017 #22

Hoyt, that has yet to be determined. You are qualifying it with "at this point". still_one Jun 2017 #27

Because the evidence is in the hands of Mueller, not in the public discourse. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #32

And neither do you. I do know I have been through one Fitzmas in my life, and that's enough Hoyt Jun 2017 #36

Have no fear. This is much more similar to Watergate than Fitzmas. PubliusEnigma Jun 2017 #56

I don't know, outing a CIA agent and lying us into war were quite serious. Hoyt Jun 2017 #58

That's not true at all Bradical79 Jun 2017 #61

Collusion? That wasn't what today was about. The FBI is looking into that now. nt Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #17

Weird - it was supposed to be - at least a bit... jmg257 Jun 2017 #40

Awwww, didums leg not get tingly, Chris? JHB Jun 2017 #19

I'm sure Mueller would beg to differ Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #20

Pet peeve oswaldactedalone Jun 2017 #29

Matthews is terrible at immediate interpretation Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #31

Often when I hear long testimony like was heard today... Grammy23 Jun 2017 #34

I never heard Comey say that (Trump is part of his campaign) and I wish he had. "No, you are not Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #42

Comey specifically said trump was not under ANY investigation as of the time of his firing. jmg257 Jun 2017 #47

I guess the crux of the matter is that they Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #55

Yep - good stuff. jmg257 Jun 2017 #57

that's probably true - but it may be just that he is impulsive - and calms down - and thinks it Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #43

Yes, ... his immediate perspective is always jaded until he remembers more facts YCHDT Jun 2017 #54

Didn't he say he couldn't answer that in the public hearing? Didn't they have a doc03 Jun 2017 #33

He said on his show that these guys (Trump surrogates) were not doing this on their Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #39

I watched Hardball and it was a take down of Trump the entire hour. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #38

+1000. Chris thinks Trump a douche bag. And, I am positive he is very dissappointed Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #41

Notice the low number posters...post this stuff without context often. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #60

love the euphemism:) Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #62

Their female reporters lillypaddle Jun 2017 #45

Chris Cuomo on CNN in the mornings SticksnStones Jun 2017 #49

he made a point that there was no damning evidence revealed Demonaut Jun 2017 #50

uhm... demanding loyalty isn't damning? Joe941 Jun 2017 #64

ambiguous statement easily argued in court Demonaut Jun 2017 #66

since the investigation is still ongoing we have no idea of collusion do we. beachbum bob Jun 2017 #52

You don't get attention if you don't say something different HopeAgain Jun 2017 #53

Let me say up front, I like Chris Matthews, but MiddleClass Jun 2017 #67