Chris Matthews: collusion "fell apart"

[Grammy23]

34. Often when I hear long testimony like was heard today...

I have an immediate impression. But then I like to think about what was said, re-read the testimony and as I did tonight, listen to others who also heard the testimony. Sometimes it helps to hear an expert in law to explain what constitutes collusion or obstruction of justice. There may be many explanations of what was said and what it means.

I heard many voices joining the chorus tonight of what exactly transpired today. After hearing their explanations, I feel fairly certain that tRump is under investigation. The fact that Comey was not able to discuss some of the details in open session means there is more to tell. Members of the committee heard more this afternoon and eventually so will we.

If trump's campaign is being investigated, that means tRump falls under that investigation, too. He is still the top of that chain, so how could he not be a subject? As I heard tonight, they will go after the smaller fish and work their way up. As they move through the ranks, theoretically, the lower level people could rat out the higher level people, maybe hoping for leniency.

Anyone who claims that tRump got exonerated by Comey did not hear the same testimony that I did. What he did not or could not say in open session was just as intriguing as what he did say. This is going to get really interesting when the open hearings get going after some of the information is no longer classified. Pop the corn, pull up a chair!