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KingCharlemagne

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99. I watched and listened to almost every minute of those impeachment hearings. IIRC, Republicans

Fri Jun 9, 2017, 09:04 AM

Jun 2017

began the hearings largely behind Nixon and opposed to impeachment. Gradually, as the drip-drip-drip of revelations continued, a few of the liberal Republicans (from the erstwhile Rockefeller wing) began to peel away from unconditional loyalty to Tricky Dick.

Only after SCOTUS ruled unanimously 9-0 that Tricky Dick had to surrender the tapes and the tapes corroborated Dean's allegations, did the dam burst and Nixon's Republican support on the Committee, in the House and in the Senate evaporate.

Nixon held out hope that, while he would be impeached in the House, he might escape conviction and removal in the Senate (the way Bill Clinton subsequently did). Barry Goldwater was delegated to inform Nixon that there were now sufficient votes for conviction and that Nixon would be removed if it went to trial in the Senate.

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Donald Trump is going to be impeached... [View all] Barack_America Jun 2017 OP

Great post, thanks! I agree! furtheradu Jun 2017 #1

His behavior makes me think so oxbow Jun 2017 #2

ummm...cause he's guilty and he knows it? barbtries Jun 2017 #4

His telltale heart is driving him mad oxbow Jun 2017 #9

It's not just that the Russians have something on him, leftieNanner Jun 2017 #17

Lordy? that's Comey's word Dream Girl Jun 2017 #18

And Comey is mispronouncing it. pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #57

Like this: volstork Jun 2017 #60

Respectfully disagree. pablo_marmol Jun 2017 #69

Funny ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #95

I thought it was Lordy because you were calling on the "Lord" Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #102

Not according to Merriam-Webster sammythecat Jun 2017 #106

Golden..... WinkyDink Jun 2017 #39

I've liked that story since middle school...how about an updated version with Trump? Dream Girl Jun 2017 #62

possibly Comey thinks that for the sake of the country trump needs to go down barbtries Jun 2017 #3

It may also have had something to do with the fact that the little bitch fired him while he was on politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2017 #64

Republicans are still displaying the "no big deal" attitude, so he isn't getting impeached. OliverQ Jun 2017 #5

Not yet. Republican Pres Trump is not yet toxic enough to Republican chances in 2018 & 2020. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #7

Wait for it... Fritz Walter Jun 2017 #38

as long as limbaugh keeps making excuses for him and dems ignore certainot Jun 2017 #47

The GOP is just as bad a Trump. Stonepounder Jun 2017 #63

Yep. The entire GOP is in on the money train... from Russia. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #91

My fear is that all most Republicans care about is the economy and stock market... AntiFascist Jun 2017 #6

The number one thing all politicians care about MiddleClass Jun 2017 #15

And guns and Jesus and Mr.Bill Jun 2017 #33

They don't care about Jesus HopeAgain Jun 2017 #43

No, but they will use that as a means to many ends. Mr.Bill Jun 2017 #49

That's pretty much the definition of "Republican." WinkyDink Jun 2017 #41

ding ding ding - yep Locrian Jun 2017 #108

I am wondering if the Republicans in the yuiyoshida Jun 2017 #8

If they do, it will certainly be forced. Barack_America Jun 2017 #28

Comey knows a whole lot more than he said in the open hearing this morning. Grammy23 Jun 2017 #10

I suspect the Republicans are hiding their own deep corruption too lunatica Jun 2017 #16

You cant force him to resign and its unlikely he will be impeached as there just isnt any way cstanleytech Jun 2017 #11

IF dems win house, if not, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #12

Sadly, I think that's true. Mr.Bill Jun 2017 #35

This Cosmocat Jun 2017 #55

IF he is going to be impeached, it will be based on nothing Comey said in open testimony. jmg257 Jun 2017 #13

so, what would you call earth shattering? mdbl Jun 2017 #26

Right? The sitting American President does not care that we are being attacked... Barack_America Jun 2017 #32

Either way, it doesn't look good for him. Aristus Jun 2017 #14

I thought the testimony went well overall mvd Jun 2017 #19

I think he resigns... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #20

While I would love it for him to resign, Chrysanthemum Jun 2017 #93

Interesting. I've heard he doesn't know he's in trouble, Hortensis Jun 2017 #109

I agree completely whopis01 Jun 2017 #118

Not going to happen. GaYellowDawg Jun 2017 #21

I forgot a third option, criminal charges. Barack_America Jun 2017 #22

I didn't get that from his testimony. GaYellowDawg Jun 2017 #25

It grieves me to say that I agree. Kleveland Jun 2017 #30

He will resign in my opinion. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #46

The only way he leaves the Oval Office Cosmocat Jun 2017 #58

I agree...haha...I have no doubt he asked for loyalty. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #94

Yep Cosmocat Jun 2017 #56

And if a State Attorney General gets indictments in a serious criminal case pnwmom Jun 2017 #71

better happen soon bora13 Jun 2017 #23

other ways! AlexSFCA Jun 2017 #24

I disagree Moral Compass Jun 2017 #27

Could there be a point where it is too much treestar Jun 2017 #54

Yep Cosmocat Jun 2017 #59

I'd have to agree, it's like a sinking ship. It can look "OK" for pretty long while it's taking The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #29

We already have obstruction of justice with Trumpf rockfordfile Jun 2017 #31

Senate should already be talking to Pence Xipe Totec Jun 2017 #34

Impeachment is like trying to win a jury verdict on appeal Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #36

The republicans have to have the desire to impeach MiniMe Jun 2017 #37

Republicans will not vote to impeach while they hold either the House or Senate. briv1016 Jun 2017 #40

IF it happens, it'll be because the Trump Brand is going to drag Rs down in elections. Quiet_Dem_Mom Jun 2017 #42

I agree. Trump will resign and Pence will pardon everyone. McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #44

I dunno... kaotikross Jun 2017 #45

He only goes under one condition DFW Jun 2017 #48

School enid602 Jun 2017 #50

He definitely will not last 4 years. bresue Jun 2017 #51

Nothing would make me happier. warmfeet Jun 2017 #52

I can't see him lasting the year C_U_L8R Jun 2017 #53

Yes but now I heard on two networks that actually Comey broke the law by INdemo Jun 2017 #61

Dems controlled the House and Senate in 1973 and 74 - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #79

Yes I know that but during the hearing the Republicans INdemo Jun 2017 #92

I watched and listened to almost every minute of those impeachment hearings. IIRC, Republicans KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #99

I didnt list all the details (forgot about the SCOTUS thing) like you did but today if Trump INdemo Jun 2017 #100

I'm sorry. As much as I want this outcome - BIG:Y - I don't think it's going to happen. BobTheSubgenius Jun 2017 #65

I don't think so as long as the Republicons hold the congress.... nt doc03 Jun 2017 #66

Not until 2018 at least... Baconator Jun 2017 #67

Soon as he fired Comey, but,, benld74 Jun 2017 #68

I disagree. While there's ample evidence to justify impeachment, it isn't going to happen unless catbyte Jun 2017 #70

Comey showed everyone how a professional conducts himself. Ilsa Jun 2017 #72

Not at 34%. When he hits 30 and below then yes. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2017 #73

This SHOULD signal the beginning of the end. For anyone else, it would. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #74

Not until 2019 at the earliest Azathoth Jun 2017 #75

Cue: "Twitter Trump incriminating himself tonight ... Puzzler Jun 2017 #76

IF tRump was smart he would resign before this goes further, but.... joanbarnes Jun 2017 #77

I think he's going to resign for "health reasons" nt maryellen99 Jun 2017 #78

but his "doctor" assured us NewJeffCT Jun 2017 #116

This OP is a perfect example of wishful thinking run amok. If anything, Comey's KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #80

If the GOP stands by him as criminal charges come down... Barack_America Jun 2017 #83

Presidents cannot be charged criminally for acts committed while KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #98

Shit changes. We've never had a blatant traitor as our President. Barack_America Jun 2017 #120

He won't be impeached by Republicans but he might slip away under some other pretense. Kablooie Jun 2017 #81

Yes..nt Stuart G Jun 2017 #82

So was Bush...according to approximately 1,000 DU threads over an 8 year period... MadDAsHell Jun 2017 #84

Kick. sarcasmo Jun 2017 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #86

Thanks for visiting! Barack_America Jun 2017 #88

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #89

Um, no. Barack_America Jun 2017 #90

I disagree sellitman Jun 2017 #87

Don't hold your breath berksdem Jun 2017 #96

My conclusion is not based on what he said... Barack_America Jun 2017 #97

all up to Bob M at this time... berksdem Jun 2017 #104

drumpf will be removed from office kicking, screaming and tweeting in denial democratisphere Jun 2017 #101

He'll die first. GeorgeGist Jun 2017 #103

Do you want President Pence? MosheFeingold Jun 2017 #105

Worse than watergate IronLionZion Jun 2017 #107

impeached with a repuke majority in the house and senate? you are far more optimistic than I. niyad Jun 2017 #110

Well, cant you be impeached but not have to leave office? Doreen Jun 2017 #111

Trump will only be impeached if Democrats get a majority in the House. Nitram Jun 2017 #112

Wish it were true but the jimlup Jun 2017 #113

Not with this Congress. They need a stupid auto-pen. kairos12 Jun 2017 #114

But the deplorable rubes are laughing it up saying the testimony was a fail, a big "Nothing Burger" Bromwell Jun 2017 #115

I'm calling it, Democrats will lose seats in 2018 Cyrusvirus Jun 2017 #117

Questions DownriverDem Jun 2017 #119