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66. By "energized, engaged young voters", you mean those who went to Sander's rallies?

Reply to SusanaMontana41 (Reply #49)

Mon Jun 12, 2017, 01:05 AM

Jun 2017

They didn't bother to vote in the primaries. That's why he lost.

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Why Does the Liberal, Democratic Establishment Hate Progressives? Seriously [View all] lovemydogs Jun 2017 OP

can you give specific names ? JI7 Jun 2017 #1

Easily, but don't want to be banned. rwsanders Jun 2017 #38

"Have you stopped beating your wife?" apcalc Jun 2017 #2

Thre OP reads like "Oh poor me everybody hates me" wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #3

-There is a real issue available....We do not need infighting Boxerfan Jun 2017 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Jun 2017 #34

Nothing like a Trumpf presidency SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #49

By "energized, engaged young voters", you mean those who went to Sander's rallies? lunamagica Jun 2017 #66

Yeah those are the ones. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #151

Strangely enough, Hillary WON. She got 3,000,000 more votes than Trump. About 66,000,000.... Hekate Jun 2017 #78

The only candidate in history more unpopular than Hillary is Donald Trump. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #150

Yes... disillusioned73 Jun 2017 #102

That's my Democratic Party. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #153

I think you've got the wrong end of this... Adrahil Jun 2017 #5

Thanks for saying so. It was an ugly primary and lots of name calling lovemydogs Jun 2017 #10

I agree with Adrahil LeftInTX Jun 2017 #146

Prove it zipplewrath Jun 2017 #156

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #32

What's a progressive? What's a liberal democrat?..,, beachbum bob Jun 2017 #6

As a former card carrying UK Liberal Democrat... mwooldri Jun 2017 #57

unfortunately "liberal and progressive" democrats have voted for both, The OP clearly doesn't beachbum bob Jun 2017 #88

I keep seeing angry posts and am cannot figure out the reason lovemydogs Jun 2017 #7

It might have something to do with the anger and the unwarranted and untrue Ninsianna Jun 2017 #68

+1 betsuni Jun 2017 #72

Well said, ninsianna!! brer cat Jun 2017 #104

All kinds of problems with your premise but this link sums up my general position stevenleser Jun 2017 #8

you are almost my username doppelganger lol luvMIdog Jun 2017 #9

How much did you donate to the DNC? WhiteTara Jun 2017 #11

We know how to do that. I had Bernie on retainer for a year. SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #51

Bernie Sanders is not the DNC WhiteTara Jun 2017 #101

It helped promote a little known senator into one of the most influential senators Kentonio Jun 2017 #121

That "little known" senator had been in WhiteTara Jun 2017 #136

Dang right he isn't the DNC. I'd do it again. nt SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #149

Well, actually, he is in the DNC WhiteTara Jun 2017 #152

Is he now? I live in a cabin in Alaska SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #154

Progressives are pro-gun? LexVegas Jun 2017 #12

no, but i could understand someone in some rural areas taking that position if that was the only way JI7 Jun 2017 #37

Look, I am not trying to do anything but, understand something for my own wondering lovemydogs Jun 2017 #13

I'm sorry you're not getting answers here. elleng Jun 2017 #18

Nonsense...this entire OP was designed to start a fight. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #94

Because it allows people to avoid taking any responsibility for the shitshow that was the campaign Kentonio Jun 2017 #122

Forget it. I was curious about something and thought I would ask lovemydogs Jun 2017 #14

You don't need to "forget it", but you do need to explain what you mean DanTex Jun 2017 #17

Don't take it personal. I think the bulk of DU is more on the Progressive side too Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #20

What makes you think they hate progressives? I'm curious to understand. DanTex Jun 2017 #15

No, you wouldn't have seem a trace of it. Kentonio Jun 2017 #124

Re-read that thread. It wasn't calling progressives alt-left. DanTex Jun 2017 #129

Why would you call Cornel West 'alt-left'? Kentonio Jun 2017 #130

For starters, he helped Trump get elected by supporting Jill Stein. DanTex Jun 2017 #132

Your logic is very strange. Kentonio Jun 2017 #133

It's actually very simple. Helping Republicans helps Republicans. DanTex Jun 2017 #135

You're making an argument that there is only one morally acceptable use for a persons right to vote Kentonio Jun 2017 #140

I didn't use the words "morally acceptable", now you're just making things up. DanTex Jun 2017 #141

No you didn't use those exact words. Kentonio Jun 2017 #142

I stand by that. He does display unhinged hatred of the Democratic Party. DanTex Jun 2017 #145

cornell West said horrible things about Pres. Obama and has Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #137

Oh this is after the election...so now you know why I despise the West... plenty more where the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #139

It's About Bernie & His Continual Bashing Of Dems Me. Jun 2017 #16

Not. It was happening long before Sanders ran leftstreet Jun 2017 #23

That True Me. Jun 2017 #24

"It is still going on today," as you say, because of posts like this. This was originally a Squinch Jun 2017 #19

Bingo, Squinch Hekate Jun 2017 #79

Great reply mcar Jun 2017 #96

We REALLY need a way to rec a post! NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #112

+ 1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #117

May I ask what your involvement at the local level is? crazycatlady Jun 2017 #21

Member of the Republican Party, is my guess. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #27

HE was thinking of running against Elizabeth Warren crazycatlady Jun 2017 #113

... nini Jun 2017 #119

The problem is you don't accept that those you question believe the same things nini Jun 2017 #22

Why do some progressives hate Democrats? mcar Jun 2017 #25

You beat me to it. My question exactly. LisaM Jun 2017 #29

Yes mcar Jun 2017 #40

Thank you. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #46

;) sheshe2 Jun 2017 #58

And they hate a fictional Democratic Party. betsuni Jun 2017 #67

This. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #90

Spot on, mcar! brer cat Jun 2017 #105

Great question Gothmog Jun 2017 #109

They don't. But the Republicans and Russians want Progressives to believe this total bullshit. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #26

To the extent this is true, the answer's simple: sandensea Jun 2017 #28

I didn't know they did NobodyHere Jun 2017 #30

Absolutely agree. And it tends zentrum Jun 2017 #31

I think the notion that the "Liberal, Democratic Establishment Hates Progressives" is... hrmjustin Jun 2017 #33

"the New Democrats/Establishment, moderate/republican lite policies" spare us the still_one Jun 2017 #35

+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2017 #59

+1000 brer cat Jun 2017 #106

Great post Gothmog Jun 2017 #110

Define progressive for me GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #36

The vitriol in the answers here.. Nevernose Jun 2017 #39

Hear hear! nt defacto7 Jun 2017 #43

The ones that do will never bother to reply. rwsanders Jun 2017 #41

Non Sequitur. nt fleabiscuit Jun 2017 #42

Oh, this is a loaded question and likely thread.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #44

LOL NurseJackie Jun 2017 #45

Yup sheshe2 Jun 2017 #60

Was going to say the same thing. betsuni Jun 2017 #65

What's a "liberal"? What's a "progressive"? SusanaMontana41 Jun 2017 #47

If you are talking about Bernie, I can tell you, otherwise, I don't hate progressives. Hamlette Jun 2017 #48

Wonderful reply. Thank you! lunamagica Jun 2017 #69

Wow! betsuni Jun 2017 #77

Bravo!!! lamp_shade Jun 2017 #82

Excellent reply JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #85

This! nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #91

+1000 brer cat Jun 2017 #107

I don't understand. TygrBright Jun 2017 #50

Well, i don't hate. Raine1967 Jun 2017 #52

Haven't you reversed the actual situation? brush Jun 2017 #53

rapturously recieved... nt sheshe2 Jun 2017 #61

+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #62

Seems some should be tending their own gardens mcar Jun 2017 #97

I'm not buying it. Posts like this sow division. redstateblues Jun 2017 #54

+1. The premise of the OP is its purpose. FreepFryer Jun 2017 #63

You are painting with a broad hyperbolic brush. I think you are WAY off base here. LBM20 Jun 2017 #55

Because progressives are more often than not a massive liability Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #56

A much stronger argument Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #64

This. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #70

No, a stronger argument would have been that this fire is fed by both sides of this issue. Also, JCanete Jun 2017 #75

Yep. I see it and fight it out on twitter everyday. nt Kahuna7 Jun 2017 #92

+100000 YCHDT Jun 2017 #115

Because we're the lowly working class. Lunabell Jun 2017 #71

Actually the "working class" progressives point to BainsBane Jun 2017 #81

One word: MiltonBrown Jun 2017 #73

Corporations fund many campaigns and they often get what they want out of it. MiltonBrown Jun 2017 #131

Bernie was here in Chicago this weekend bdjhawk Jun 2017 #74

And not one word about the GOP's attempt to kill millions by repealing the ACA...oh yeah Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #95

Given that the 2016 party platform was the most Progressive in decades, the real question is... Hekate Jun 2017 #76

+ 1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #116

The GOP House just passed legislation to deregulate banking BainsBane Jun 2017 #80

Damn right Hekate Jun 2017 #118

Yet days later BainsBane Jun 2017 #120

In the Here and Now, Bernie is not a friend of ours Hekate Jun 2017 #144

Trashing thread. yardwork Jun 2017 #83

We are in the fight of our lives and you secondwind Jun 2017 #84

I do not agree with your terms or definitions so it is impossible to answer delisen Jun 2017 #86

They don't -- next! obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #87

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ProfessorPlum Jun 2017 #89

Because they work so hard to undermine treestar Jun 2017 #93

+++++ LeftInTX Jun 2017 #147

Because they split the party and helped cause the 2016 Clinton defeat..... Paladin Jun 2017 #98

Democrats know their voters would vote for a socialist party, but the leadership prefers capitalism. DemocraticWing Jun 2017 #99

It's a very old argument. alarimer Jun 2017 #100

I don't hate progressives. I am one ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #103

I don't have anything against anybody whom votes D Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #108

They don't. This either a strawman argument or psychological projection on your part. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #111

The REAL question is why did the Alt Left do everything they could to help the Alt Right seize power Foamfollower Jun 2017 #114

Word. BainsBane Jun 2017 #123

People call themselves "progressive" and not "liberal" MountCleaners Jun 2017 #125

Some of the "progressive?" leaders spend lots of time attacking Progressive dog Jun 2017 #126

It's actually the other way around. nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2017 #127

Still not a single word of concern about the GOP vote deregulating banking BainsBane Jun 2017 #128

A fellow's wife leaves him because he doesn't keep the lawn properly mowed. dawg Jun 2017 #134

!!!!!!! THIS!!!!!!!!! This is so awesome! Squinch Jun 2017 #148

Inevitable in a two-party system that there would be infighting. Orsino Jun 2017 #138

Wherefore do you speak? There is no "Democratic Establishment" It's a Coalition of Establishments. haele Jun 2017 #143

Fine with so-called progressives, as long as they are not just using that moniker cause it's cool. Hoyt Jun 2017 #155