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In reply to the discussion: He's caught, he knows it, and will throw every hail Mary he's got: 1. Fire Mueller.... [View all]robertpaulsen
(8,697 posts)64. One other Hail Mary that scares the shit out of me...
Seeing the parallels between Trump and Nixon, there is certainly the possibility that Trump could become politically poisonous enough that if his approval drops to the 20s, Congressional Republicans may decide to jump on the impeachment boat. Picture this scene from the Oliver Stone movie Nixon between Nixon (Anthony Hopkins) and Alexander Haig (Powers Boothe) and replace them with Trump and, say, Reince Priebus.
INT. THE WHITE HOUSE - LINCOLN SITTING ROOM - NIGHT (1974)
NIXON sits in his chair in a suit and tie, listening to
"Victory at Sea" at top volume. In front of him is a
picture album -- 1922 portraits of the NIXON FAMILY.
HAROLD holding ARTHUR. RICHARD stares glumly at the camera
between HANNAH and FRANK.
GENERAL HAIG, with KISSINGER behind, approaches with some
papers held out in his hand. Nixon sees them, turns down
the hi-fi.
NIXON
"Victory at Sea," Al ... Henry. The
Pacific Theatre. Christ, you can
almost feel the waves breaking over
the decks.
HAIG
I'm afraid we have another problem,
Mr. President.
He hands him a paper. Nixon glances at it.
HAIG (CONT'D)
June twenty-third, '72, sir. The part
that's underlined. Your instructions
to Haldeman regarding the CIA and the
FBI.
NIXON
So?
HAIG
Your lawyers feel it's the ...
"smoking gun."
NIXON
It's totally out of context. I was
protecting the national security. I
never intended --
HAIG
Sir, the deadline is today.
NIXON
Can we get around this, Al?
HAIG
It's the Supreme Court, sir; you don't
get around it.
Nixon, silenced, looks down at the paper in his hands and
sighs.
HAIG (CONT'D)
If you resign, you can keep your tapes
as a private citizen ... You can fight
them for years.
NIXON
And if I stay?
A long moment.
HAIG
You have the army.
Nixon looks up at him, then over at Henry.
NIXON
The army?
HAIG
Lincoln used it.
NIXON
That was civil war.
HAIG
How do you see this?
NIXON sits in his chair in a suit and tie, listening to
"Victory at Sea" at top volume. In front of him is a
picture album -- 1922 portraits of the NIXON FAMILY.
HAROLD holding ARTHUR. RICHARD stares glumly at the camera
between HANNAH and FRANK.
GENERAL HAIG, with KISSINGER behind, approaches with some
papers held out in his hand. Nixon sees them, turns down
the hi-fi.
NIXON
"Victory at Sea," Al ... Henry. The
Pacific Theatre. Christ, you can
almost feel the waves breaking over
the decks.
HAIG
I'm afraid we have another problem,
Mr. President.
He hands him a paper. Nixon glances at it.
HAIG (CONT'D)
June twenty-third, '72, sir. The part
that's underlined. Your instructions
to Haldeman regarding the CIA and the
FBI.
NIXON
So?
HAIG
Your lawyers feel it's the ...
"smoking gun."
NIXON
It's totally out of context. I was
protecting the national security. I
never intended --
HAIG
Sir, the deadline is today.
NIXON
Can we get around this, Al?
HAIG
It's the Supreme Court, sir; you don't
get around it.
Nixon, silenced, looks down at the paper in his hands and
sighs.
HAIG (CONT'D)
If you resign, you can keep your tapes
as a private citizen ... You can fight
them for years.
NIXON
And if I stay?
A long moment.
HAIG
You have the army.
Nixon looks up at him, then over at Henry.
NIXON
The army?
HAIG
Lincoln used it.
NIXON
That was civil war.
HAIG
How do you see this?
Nixon, of course, had the discretion, dignity and sanity not to use the army. All personal characteristics which Trump sorely lacks.
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He's caught, he knows it, and will throw every hail Mary he's got: 1. Fire Mueller.... [View all]
tableturner
Jun 2017
OP
I believe that he would do that or anything else if he thought it would keep him out of prison.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#4
Agree. That's why in hearing with Rod Rosenstein last week, Kamala Harris tried to get him...
iluvtennis
Jun 2017
#24
I know many don't want to get their hopes up, but there will be a point when enough of the GOP
tableturner
Jun 2017
#10
I am not sure of that. If it has not happened yet I am not sure it ever will. n/t
USALiberal
Jun 2017
#14
More and more will come out....very serious charges will be shown to be true...it will happen.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#20
We are months or years away from anything really happening. Took 2 years for Nixon. n/t
USALiberal
Jun 2017
#13
It has to be clear now to all but the most absolutely dumb and clueless in the country there is
RKP5637
Jun 2017
#15
I agree....there will be a race to garner one of a few opportunities to flip.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#63
Yes they will, but not all of them. The true believers will go wild, though.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#22
Attention American People: "Vladimir Putin is in charge now, get used to it!"
Eliot Rosewater
Jun 2017
#27
He may fire 1 more person, but his personality says that martial law will come pretty quick.
LiberalArkie
Jun 2017
#33
I agree with you on the FBI/CIA rage, and the weakness of his supporters.....they won't win!
tableturner
Jun 2017
#35
All true, but there might be some real deaths in the battle. Civil Rights, Kent State,
WinkyDink
Jun 2017
#50
I pretty much agree with every word of this and just want to add one thing.
Charlotte Little
Jun 2017
#59
I agree re capitalizing on an "incident", but don't think it will work for reasons stated earlier.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#43
By the way, I still think that if he feels doomed, there is a chance he will flee to Russia.
tableturner
Jun 2017
#46
He could get a lot of intelligence that Trump at this point doesn't have the ability to pass on
tableturner
Jun 2017
#54