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In reply to the discussion: Sorry, Bernie but the Democrats know whose side they are on and whose side they have always been on [View all]alarimer
(17,146 posts)260. Give em hell, Bernie!
The truth is uncomfortable for a lot of people.
Truth is, the Democrats have NOT always been on the side of the people and I'm not talking historically either. All of those things you mention have in recent decades have not been secure on the part of Democrats. Remember Obama's committee on "reforming" Social Security? How they recommended RAISING the retirement age yet again? Remember Obama's appointment of several figures from Goldman Sachs? How quickly we forget all that.
So go Bernie, I say. We need more of it and louder.
This is not team sports. Our side is not always right and it is important to call them out when they are not. Remember the Bush administration? How critical we were of Democrats who caved time and again on Iraq, on the Patriot Act, etc.? Why is this any different? The Democrats are going to let this health care travesty pass, when they can withhold consent and stop all Senate business until there is a bill we can read and debate.
I'm with Bernie all the way.
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Sorry, Bernie but the Democrats know whose side they are on and whose side they have always been on [View all]
nikibatts
Jun 2017
OP
He went after Democrats yet again. Below is why I was not nor ever will be a fan of Sen. Sanders.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#3
Hopefully we can. I do believe those he influences are not going to vote for us anyway.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#45
Join the party and work at the grass root levels...make it what you want...simply criticizing
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#229
That narrative doesn't work for him as well as he might think it does
Proud Liberal Dem
Jun 2017
#95
He hasn't discounted #TrumpRussia at all. Far far from it - he's been on it constantly
riderinthestorm
Jun 2017
#224
re: "Trump didnt win the election, the Democratic Party lost the election"
thesquanderer
Jun 2017
#59
Those are good points, but do you really think Wisconsin was unwinnable?
thesquanderer
Jun 2017
#132
Why did Scott Walker win 2 times with the teachers unions fighting him every day. Why did they lose
Jim Beard
Jun 2017
#225
Yes, but % of Dems who did not vote Clinton was same as % Repubs who didn't vote Trump.
thesquanderer
Jun 2017
#211
I don't buy it... after the divisive primary, some Democrats never came home.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#231
Um... who are you talking about? The Democratic Leadership Council dissolved in 2011.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#118
I deny it . The only party who represents the interests of middle class Americans
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#192
He brought up "older people" but ignored us (I'm in that group) during his campaign.
tonyt53
Jun 2017
#160
He does and he does and he does...my conclusion is he plans another run and thinks he can win over
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#207
I'M NOT A FAN OF HIS EITHER. I'm getting darn sick and tired of him critizing Democrats .. LIKE ME !
trueblue2007
Jun 2017
#206
Can't understand how you didn't know we were talking about his legislative voting record
Doremus
Jun 2017
#274
When speaking of any legislator's 'vote' it's generally assumed that it refers to legislative voting
Doremus
Jun 2017
#290
I have still not seen a vote list of Bernie, so it's not clear that I am wrong.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#273
The fact that he won't join the Party, unless he needs the establishment cred to run for POTUS.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#288
When we are a minority party with less than a third of voters registering with us
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2017
#6
I think you are wrong but I will say it again...who wants for vote for a party that is attacked
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#48
It is a brutal attack in fact...and the anti-Obama and Clinton shite you posted is just sickening.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#212
It is propaganda, or an opinion piece that had a very deep slant. That's not a stretch.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#307
I was talking about people who registeed as Democrats in my state so they could vote in our primary
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2017
#166
However, he's not a Democrat, and has never been elected or nominated as a Democrat.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#124
"Participation in the Democratic party has increased since Bernie ran for President.
G_j
Jun 2017
#223
Maybe because of attacks on the party like this one ...which was launched by Sen. Sanders
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#14
The vast majority of those who voted for Bernie in the primaries then voted for Hillary.
Jim Lane
Jun 2017
#130
It appears that they liked what the Party had to offer enough to stay after the primaries.
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#261
Complete the picture. Repug registration is about the same as the Dems. Nothing new there
brush
Jun 2017
#26
Why? Right wing talk radio - the only talk radio most people have access to
SharonClark
Jun 2017
#28
Why? 40 years of the GOP blaming the government for the problems in this country
SharonClark
Jun 2017
#36
I agree with that. In fact I believe there is limited support for Sen. Sanders in the Democratic
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#213
Yes....I will be interested in Virginia today...see if the the kids really turn out for Perriello.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#267
I don't think you understand the non-party registrations at all. I am unenrolled in MA as are the
seaglass
Jun 2017
#135
"People who are left of center but refuse to vote for Democrats do not need to be listened to"
Tom Rinaldo
Jun 2017
#170
I disagree. I and everyone I know who supported Bernie in he primary voted for Hillary in November.
CentralMass
Jun 2017
#67
Bernie caucuses with the Democratic Party... he's more loyal than alotta otha Dems.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Jun 2017
#235
Not so. But see how easily people fall back into this mode when in the present day ...
Hekate
Jun 2017
#117
whew, good thing! Because we know that all the hubub about money in politics is just tiresome and
JCanete
Jun 2017
#222
The need for big money is to help WIN races. We have not "left" the working class...how did Obama
nikibatts
Jun 2017
#42
Frankly, I'm annoyed with getting lectures from people claiming "this is the way to win"
PatsFan87
Jun 2017
#70
The posters states that 95% of Democratic voters in Seattle went for Sanders
ismnotwasm
Jun 2017
#65
Yes, and Clinton won more votes in primaries + caucuses nationally than did Sanders.
David__77
Jun 2017
#79
Welcome to DU. It was a caucus, which does not represent the results you would get in a primary.
StevieM
Jun 2017
#63
My sentiments exactly. Back away from my party, Bernie. Right fucking now. (nt)
Paladin
Jun 2017
#68
I'm a Democratic voter, and I welcome Bernie Sanders. And I'm glad to have voted for him.
David__77
Jun 2017
#83
Unfortunately for you, LOTS of Democratic VOTERS want him to stay involved in OUR party. n/t
That Guy 888
Jun 2017
#89
I have come to believe that Sen. Sanders divides progressives maybe not intentionally.
Demsrule86
Jun 2017
#216
I don't think he realizes how insulting his attacks come to some longtime Democrats.
hrmjustin
Jun 2017
#74
My point is that Sanders made an appeal to the young and their turnout in the primary was not high
hrmjustin
Jun 2017
#186
Remember it was moderates who won most of those marginal seats and Corbyn didn't actually win.
hrmjustin
Jun 2017
#99
I bet it remains just as high because they are based upon Bernies ACTUAL Record.
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2017
#233
Yrah, well, there's this place called Sierra Blanca. They are vulnerable among the vulnerable
lunamagica
Jun 2017
#280
I think Secretary of Agriculture Earl Butz' famous ill advised joke punchline applies here.
aka-chmeee
Jun 2017
#98
one post even defended bernie by attacking democrats for not calling for impeachment
JI7
Jun 2017
#248
Perhaps Bernie should join the Democrats, we have been working for the betterment of
Thinkingabout
Jun 2017
#138
I would accept this if he was actually working hard with other Dems instead of grandstanding like
bettyellen
Jun 2017
#140
Of course, when he went out of his way to work with Nebraska Democrats, he was also blasted.
Jim Lane
Jun 2017
#162
The Unity tour was a failure, I don't know how anyone can think Sanders helped by trashing Dems.
bettyellen
Jun 2017
#163
Bernie is not nor never has been a Democrat. And that is all we are allowed to say,
Lil Missy
Jun 2017
#156
Thanks - I have been frustrated by the way this has been made HRC supporters vs Bernie supporters
karynnj
Jun 2017
#227
I think Clinton gets a lot of unfair attacks over her 2016 campaign, but I agree that she should not
StevieM
Jun 2017
#230
Yeah, stuck in the 70's living off the same Dam programs started under FDR, Kennedy, Johnson,.
nikibatts
Jun 2017
#325
You have a lot of explaining to do on our own history of voting and advocacy of some bad policies
JCanete
Jun 2017
#175
He would be a McGovern level disaster in a general election, besides he will be 78 YEARS OLD in 2020
FreeStateDemocrat
Jun 2017
#195
I suppose if you think that anyone who voted for Hillary can't possibly be a liberal
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#293
Exit polls are not a reliable measure of "reality" in terms of predicting the outcome
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#320
Stop the personal attack. If you disagree with someone on DU, you don't call them a "liar"
still_one
Jun 2017
#281
Calling someone a LIAR is a personal attack. Maybe you better read the TOS if you are having a
still_one
Jun 2017
#299
Your assessment of a "failed campaign" flies in the face of the evidence now known.
nikibatts
Jun 2017
#265
Remember when healthcare for all was a third rail that no mainstream democrat would touch?
killbotfactory
Jun 2017
#278
Yes, the very day he has an OpEd in the NYT on how Dems "can stop losing elections."
ehrnst
Jun 2017
#292