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BainsBane

(57,781 posts)
88. No, you do not have the right "to have other females quit" anything
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 12:38 PM
Jun 2017

Your rights begin and end with yourself. You don't own or control me, and you have absolutely no right to get me to do a damn thing.

She has given one media interview in seven months. That is hardly being plastered on the media every day. She has never been the kind of politician who lives for the cameras. There are others who fill that role. Now you could easily avoid her one interview or commencement addresses, just as you could could avoid reading my post, but that isn't sufficient for someone who feels compelled to "get other females" to do what they demand. You feel entitled to control public discourse itself. Rather than simply turning the channel or even turning the damn TV off, you feel compelled to ensure that no one anywhere is allowed to read or access information that doesn't conform to your narrow concerns.

You disagree with me, and I disagree with you. Most reasonable people understand that disagreements are the nature of politics. They don't feel compelled to 'get females" do so what they demand. But then most people don't get upset because a former presidential candidate leaves the house rather than remaining locked in a cellar for time immemorial. Well, we shouldn't really say former presidential candidate, should we, since I'm going to hazard a guess that your problem with former candidates doesn't extend to John Kerry or Al Gore. Just a wild guess.

Spare me your trite bumper stickers about "triangulation." Talk about a non-sequitur.
Hillary Clinton is not 'the Clinton's." She is an intelligent, enormously talented woman who is not a mere appendage of a her husband. 67 people voted for her. Many of that 67 million is interested in what she has to say, the same of which cannot be said about you or me. Now she has chosen to use her position to work to straighten the Democratic party by forming a PAC to support other candidates seeking to lead it forward. There is no logical reason anyone who wants to see Democrats succeed should object to such a thing.

You are more than within your rights to continue to devote your life to working to banish Hillary Clinton from public space and trying to ensure the only losing candidates allowed to speak in public devote themselves to attacking and undermining the party rather than working to improve its electoral prospects. Do exactly what you please, and I intend to do and think what I please. You will no more "get me" to do anything than I will ever arrive at the point where I find your bumper sticker political wisdom remotely interesting or relevant.


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This would make for a better article: CAN DONALD TRUMP PLEASE GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Jun 2017 #1
That I would LOVE to see! BainsBane Jun 2017 #3
looked him up. he wrote some shit about stopping chelsea a couple months ago in vf JI7 Jun 2017 #2
Stopping what? BainsBane Jun 2017 #4
didn't read it but I'm guessing from running for office or something else JI7 Jun 2017 #5
In fact, she has said she isn't running for office. BainsBane Jun 2017 #11
And she keeps her word. Unlike Obama, who pledged to serve his full first Senate term. LisaM Jun 2017 #52
He wanted her to "shut up," partially because she requested not to be interrupted. ehrnst Jun 2017 #8
He wants Chelsea (like Hillary) to sit down lapucelle Jun 2017 #31
Dynasty! Two people (of the same generation) in the same family who've held office..... LisaM Jun 2017 #53
We should call VFail to complain to stop trying to censure HRC & her 65 million voters & supporters. Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #6
https://twitter.com/VanityFair Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #9
Thanks for that. BainsBane Jun 2017 #12
he thinks joe Biden should run in 2020 JI7 Jun 2017 #7
Lol lol lol JHan Jun 2017 #51
JHC Cha Jun 2017 #68
K&R betsuni Jun 2017 #10
I'm part of the TRUE Democratic Base. I'm a REAL Democrat! I'm a LOYAL Democrat! And... NurseJackie Jun 2017 #13
hear! hear! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #14
he opposed the immigration bill when Obama was in office JI7 Jun 2017 #15
come on BainsBane Jun 2017 #16
However you feel about Hillary, no one's really responding to her on the issues anymore BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #17
What dynamic? BainsBane Jun 2017 #18
The problem is there really isn't a good replacement right now Major Nikon Jun 2017 #24
I think once we get through the post-mortem period and out of 2017 BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #48
This is a Democratic forum and she was the Democratic nominee. LisaM Jun 2017 #55
Did the OP even read the article? It's the same thing said about the Clinton's right here on this Hestia Jun 2017 #19
the only way it has nothing to do with women or people of color BainsBane Jun 2017 #21
You could make the exact same statement about any candidate mythology Jun 2017 #25
This isn't about a candidate choosing to leave or not BainsBane Jun 2017 #54
I can't see how that can be the conclusion. George II Jun 2017 #81
+100000 brer cat Jun 2017 #58
All of which has absolutely nothing to do with the original article. I never said I am deciding Hestia Jun 2017 #87
No, you do not have the right "to have other females quit" anything BainsBane Jun 2017 #88
I agree with your analysis Gothmog Jun 2017 #20
I've heard the talking heads on tv, too many times to count, suggest that her time is up, she's -Steph- Jun 2017 #22
He's an idiotic twerp. cwydro Jun 2017 #23
I read the article (thanks for the link!) and it's nowhere near as angry QC Jun 2017 #26
She has given one media interview BainsBane Jun 2017 #63
it's time for new blood...Go O'Malley! snooper2 Jun 2017 #27
I imagine those absurd little bumper-stickers are necessary LanternWaste Jun 2017 #47
Not support BainsBane Jun 2017 #61
She said very clearly she isn't running for office again BainsBane Jun 2017 #56
I have no idea why those who Cha Jun 2017 #79
That doesn't mean Hillary's Voice Cha Jun 2017 #78
Keep bickering Dopers_Greed Jun 2017 #28
Because Trump can only be defeated BainsBane Jun 2017 #50
"Bickering" by pointing out Bullshit? We will Cha Jun 2017 #76
Your 3rd full paragraph says it all, for me. For some, maleness supersedes all else. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #29
The Latino vote is important in the Democratic party. 58Sunliner Jun 2017 #30
You are correct BainsBane Jun 2017 #69
Why should she go away? ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #33
The reason they voted for Trump is they are unreachable racist fucks ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #34
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Hey where have you been! ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #36
"without whiteness and maleness, the party...is going nowhere" leftstreet Jun 2017 #37
And becoming smaller--statistically--every day ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #38
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Bahahaha ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #41
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Did you just actually say "bedwench? ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #43
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Well, it's been fun, but I will bid you adieu ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #45
"Bedwench" never fails, by the time I reach the ridiculous is hidden JHan Jun 2017 #57
I had to google that phrase. Geez! irisblue Jun 2017 #65
the musings of bitter men -- yet another sexist ugly slur against black women. JHan Jun 2017 #71
I am getting an education in sexism & racism today. I do not want it. irisblue Jun 2017 #74
it's ugly to the core.... first.. JHan Jun 2017 #77
I wonder if he is the same short-term member BainsBane Jun 2017 #70
wow. JHan Jun 2017 #72
I had to look that up as well.... irisblue Jun 2017 #73
Damn! I missed that. MineralMan Jun 2017 #66
But they are the superior part of the population BainsBane Jun 2017 #64
Vanity Fair, part of the Conde Nast Media Empire... Vilis Veritas Jun 2017 #39
thank you for posting this. had thought VF was actually turning into a decent mag, it niyad Jun 2017 #46
Divide and conquer. n/t Greybnk48 Jun 2017 #49
it's a ridiculous piece...and his support for Biden running in 2020 makes me ask.. JHan Jun 2017 #59
It really is BainsBane Jun 2017 #60
what a snowflake... JHan Jun 2017 #62
"TA Frank" can go the fuck away. wtf Cha Jun 2017 #67
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #75
We will not be obliging your desire to see us driven from public space BainsBane Jun 2017 #80
+++++ JHan Jun 2017 #84
As I said in another thread: Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #82
Exactly. BainsBane Jun 2017 #83
Christ on a bicycle, that's the craziness to a "T" +++++ JHan Jun 2017 #85
K&R! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #86
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