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Demsrule86

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138. I don't buy that sort of talk inspires folks to vote Democratic.

Reply to Nanjeanne (Reply #107)

Tue Jun 13, 2017, 05:52 PM

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The problem I have with Bernie... [View all] kentuck Jun 2017 OP

For Once Kentuck Me. Jun 2017 #1

I don't think it's anything new. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #2

We don't need an activist at this time...we need a Trump fighter. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #4

Sanders is fighting Trump. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #5

You have a point...the dilution of his message makes it seem so. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #8

or it makes him not look like a partisan hack. There is consistency that isn't party based. JCanete Jun 2017 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jun 2017 #16

bingo Champion Jack Jun 2017 #52

I'm glad most people here aren't buying that. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #144

its still true. You can't be taken seriously if you only have criticisms for one party when they do JCanete Jun 2017 #158

Nope, it's not true. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #172

yaha! JCanete Jun 2017 #173

Here Steve, I've got this one for you.... Nahah! JCanete Jun 2017 #174

LOL NurseJackie Jun 2017 #167

LOL right? Lets replace LOL with all coherent LOL! LOL! JCanete Jun 2017 #171

While trashing the Democratic leftynyc Jun 2017 #76

Unfortunately that "everything" includes the Democratic Party. He's a broken record on that... brush Jun 2017 #128

Agree. It's clear to me that it's self promotion at this point. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #131

We need someone dedicated to electing ANY and ALL democrats in 2018 Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #29

we need what is good for the country Champion Jack Jun 2017 #54

Electing Democrat is good for the country...and electing Republicans is not ever good for anyone. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #60

That may be a comforting thought Champion Jack Jun 2017 #65

It IS that simple. leftynyc Jun 2017 #77

It is that simple. Had we elected Sec. Clinton...we would not have a wall street deregulation bill Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #84

Oh yeah? Well tell us when and where electing a repug worked out well for the country? brush Jun 2017 #130

Yeah, that person really stepped into it with that remark. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #145

maybe it's time to think outside of the 2 party box Champion Jack Jun 2017 #178

Ya didn't answer the question. Maybe it's time to do my "Kamala Harris schtick"... brush Jun 2017 #180

Two party system. We have a two party system. kcr Jun 2017 #148

maybe that's not such a good thing? Champion Jack Jun 2017 #179

You actually have a good point, but perhaps for its own thread brush Jun 2017 #181

We need someone dedicated to electing ANY and ALL democrats in 2018 Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #97

No matter what you think of Sanders, what we need now is activists - activists ARE Trump fighters karynnj Jun 2017 #39

I think Sen Sanders hurts Democrats more than he helps us. I wish he would consider the best way to Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #49

Hmmm GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #66

Those numbers help HIM leftynyc Jun 2017 #79

Link to poll please...I would bet it is an old one...and if he is popular, Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #85

It's from GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #105

Couldn't find the polls Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #139

Not finding it. ehrnst Jun 2017 #175

Sadly it is divisive activism. JNelson6563 Jun 2017 #153

I just want to know if Bernie has an honest-to-god plan Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #3

His relationship with the Dem party is largely a one way street - he doesn't get coalitions, bettyellen Jun 2017 #6

Well, it depends on whether or not he thinks a russian style government is Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #31

Yep. nt cwydro Jun 2017 #75

He's not letting up on the Democratic party or Trump. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #7

I say not good for the Democratic Party...the only means to stop Trump and the KGOP. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #10

Seems to me we can do more than just oppose Trump... Bernie is doing just that. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #35

I find that criticizing the Democratic Party is not something we should be doing . Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #48

Why GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #67

We lost by a less than 70,000 votes in three states...despite this perfect storm of an election... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #86

70,000 less isn't the anything GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #103

Let's start with Women. moda253 Jun 2017 #110

Not the one you are talking about...criticism drives voters away. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #92

If you can't face honest criticism GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #104

And the entire problem with income is the Democrats? Not true and I wonder at your motives. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #142

God I am so sick and tired of hearing this scapegoating of moda253 Jun 2017 #108

Constructive criticism is fine Trumpocalypse Jun 2017 #83

Bernie likes to rant about people he thinks are less perfect than he is. But what is his plan? SharonClark Jun 2017 #106

By trashing the Democratic Party? ehrnst Jun 2017 #176

Bernie isn't creating the dissatisfaction with the Dem party among lefties aikoaiko Jun 2017 #46

I think he is creating dissatisfaction. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #47

Bernie speaks for me and people like me. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #63

Really? And his words make you want to run out and vote do they? No, they make you think the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #87

His words inspire me to vote. Nanjeanne Jun 2017 #107

I don't buy that sort of talk inspires folks to vote Democratic. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #138

Cool. I was talking about me not you. Different strokes. Good thing not everyone feels like you. Nanjeanne Jun 2017 #151

I would say based on the 2016 election and you can check out twitter that far more folks abandoned Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #159

I would say based on 2016 that there were many reasons why Hillary lost and why Nanjeanne Jun 2017 #163

I don't doubt it...the divisions did not heal and a loss was the result and with unwise words, it Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #164

And I don't see that happening if Bernie and his supporters consider the Democratic Party the enemy. JTFrog Jun 2017 #168

Well as a supporter of Bernie and a Democrat I disagree. I can be against Trump and Nanjeanne Jun 2017 #170

Address it, or risk losin 'em. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #61

In my opinion, those who believe what I heard over the weekend are already lost. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #88

Bernie wants lock step with HIS ideas moda253 Jun 2017 #111

lock step? Really? He's shown he can work with the party even when he doesn't get what he wants aikoaiko Jun 2017 #120

That sure is one way of looking at it. moda253 Jun 2017 #123

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #143

that depends on what you think the biggest crisis of our time is, and whether you think Trump JCanete Jun 2017 #9

Trump is the worst crisis or our time. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #11

but why did he happen? YOu think there won't be another Trump given our 4th estate? nt JCanete Jun 2017 #19

I think there was a perfect storm...we had a bitter primary with some not coming Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #51

Bitter primary GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #68

You should take this post down...there was no inside help...and the primary is over. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #89

Everything else pales in comparison. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #36

Yes indeed. I fear for our Republic even existing if he is not stopped. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #50

Yes, I fear we're past the tipping point... sadly. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #58

I have hope...so far the system is holding. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #59

Can it be neither? bonemachine Jun 2017 #40

I definitely advocate saving the patient. The only argument for a Trump as shaky as it is, is that JCanete Jun 2017 #42

Pneumonia kills people even if they know they have it...hopefully we will fare better! Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #53

That Trump could even get elected is the real battle leftstreet Jun 2017 #13

right...who needs to win elections after all...sarcasm...Georgia 6 is next week... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #20

So we should not be organizing and motivating voters for the 2018 elections? Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #14

Criticizing the Democratic Party motivates Republicans not Democrats. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #18

Not if you think the democratic party failed. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #69

I don't blame the Democratic party...and we lost by just under 70,000 and with Russian hacks. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #90

Third major election of my life where a "perfect storm" cost us the election. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #127

2000 is one I assume...don't know the other election...maybe 2004...and if you consider in all Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #137

Nope you are right...criticism motivates those who already hate the Democratic Party Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #93

Haven't DUers been criticizing the Democratic Party for decades? athena Jun 2017 #109

Running campaigns to try and woo suburban republicans is what got us here killbotfactory Jun 2017 #124

You seem to want to rewrite history. athena Jun 2017 #129

She didn't run on the platform. Most of the ads her campaign ran were policy-free. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #154

She was running against a mentally unstable man. athena Jun 2017 #156

As Athena noted, what you just wrote is revisionist history. I am tired of writing this so here is a stevenleser Jun 2017 #146

Yeah yeah, I totally made it up. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #155

Yeah there was nothing wrong with our elections..... moda253 Jun 2017 #112

That's been the case since at least when gore lost. killbotfactory Jun 2017 #125

You and me both. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #38

We should. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #62

Examples please? Arazi Jun 2017 #15

... emulatorloo Jun 2017 #27

Same here. Duppers Jun 2017 #74

Bernie is confusing. kstewart33 Jun 2017 #17

He needs to fall in line GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #70

Bernie started recruiting people to run for election Samantha Jun 2017 #122

He is not a Democrat - why do you even give a damn? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #21

I would not go that far... kentuck Jun 2017 #22

We Dems can do more than one thing at a time... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #32

I doubt it...constant criticism by influential leaders is not going to help Democrats...only Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #55

How do you know Putin doesn't want Bernie claiming Dems are an "abject failure"? emulatorloo Jun 2017 #23

Because this is 4th dimensional chess wherein... SaschaHM Jun 2017 #24

United we stand... kentuck Jun 2017 #26

Ever hear the term 'constructive criticism'? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #30

let me know when he gives some. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #33

A lot of folks may see it as 'Destructive Criticism.' All I know is Republicans are emulatorloo Jun 2017 #37

What Sanders is saying is spot on... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #41

Bernie's stable of candidates are losing elections as well. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #43

Haha...tell that to Kansas or Nebraska... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #56

When we don't have programs targeted at keeping our voters from voting moda253 Jun 2017 #114

Where are all the 'Democrats' talking about election fraud? That's right they don't.... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #115

Ummm you want me to do the research for you that you say doesn't exist? moda253 Jun 2017 #116

Election fraud has been occurring since the mid-1990s. Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #119

I mean the DNC has created a commission to address it moda253 Jun 2017 #118

Revisionist history stevenleser Jun 2017 #147

Wrong... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #149

You have no evidence for your position, I have evidence for mine. End of story. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #150

Your blinders will not help the party... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #152

Which none of you tolerate Chevy Jun 2017 #135

This is absurd. It is so clear what is going on. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #34

We risk a hide if we criticize him as he in TOS. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #57

So he is considered a Democrat? Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #98

A person who is aligned with Democrats...look at TOS. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #100

And that is the freakin truth right there. JTFrog Jun 2017 #141

I think it is better than last year because the jury system has improved. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #160

I don't think so. JTFrog Jun 2017 #161

You have appeals...I was stalked recently and appealed. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #165

Not impressed. nt JTFrog Jun 2017 #166

Nothing is ever perfect. I would say as annoying as some of what a certain person says is, it would Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #169

I think not. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Jun 2017 #94

lol lol lol Chevy Jun 2017 #134

i wouldnt care what he does or says, except for the fact mopinko Jun 2017 #25

He seems to be causing more divisions than bringing together FloridaBlues Jun 2017 #44

If his handpicked candidates were winning races nationwide, I might give him a listen, but since.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #45

Did your GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #71

The point is.. BS' didn't. The one who's always Cha Jun 2017 #82

Probably. We may never know, thanks to the hammer & sickle brigade. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #132

Agree Tarheel FloridaBlues Jun 2017 #91

I googled Bernie news Duppers Jun 2017 #64

Right, I mean. . . GhostofFDR Jun 2017 #72

Ouch. Duppers Jun 2017 #73

Wake me up when DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #78

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #80

Good.. you've noticed. Mahalo, kentuck Cha Jun 2017 #81

Bernie is countering Trump's bluster. retrowire Jun 2017 #95

Bulldog? That must Chevy Jun 2017 #136

Bernie is still tearing people apart. We need "stronger together" cheerleaders to encourage us judesedit Jun 2017 #96

It's the only way he can keep himself in the news. JTFrog Jun 2017 #99

Bernie spends most of his time knocking the Dems, like Nero fiddling. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2017 #101

Bernie might be more effective if he changed his party registration to Democratic? kentuck Jun 2017 #102

Fair point loyalsister Jun 2017 #113

Good point. kentuck Jun 2017 #117

Te Democratic party is a team, Eko Jun 2017 #121

let it rest, we have more important issues at stake beachbum bob Jun 2017 #126

You are correct and the sooner we collectively realize it the better. nt Doremus Jun 2017 #140

Perhaps you are correct? kentuck Jun 2017 #157

I would count 3 actually Chevy Jun 2017 #133

It's not that big of a problem. kentuck Jun 2017 #162

he's campaigning against the GOP health bill SethH Jun 2017 #177