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Lee-Lee

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27. The capture wasn't a crime or violence
Fri Jun 16, 2017, 09:45 AM
Jun 2017

Our goal should be to reduce violent crime in those country, including gun crime but not (as many people seem to do) focused only on gun crime. My statement was that if we want to stop it focus on the causes.

The right thing there is to focus on the underlying cause. Because we want to reduce it in society.

We don't want to stop criminals from being captured. As least most of us don't.

There is no incentive for us as a society to want to stop honest citizens from stopping criminals. Well, not unless you are a criminal. So I'm not focusing on the wrong thing here because there isn't a reason to focus on any part of it to stop it.

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Additional details at this link Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #1
Let's all ignore masses of data we DON'T like and instead focus on rare anecdotes that we DO like. Towlie Jun 2017 #18
Like ignoring all the defensive uses of guns and focusing on only misuse? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #21
It's nice to hear one positive outcome, BUT . . . on June 15, 25 people died as a result of gun Vinca Jun 2017 #2
Focus on the causes of the violence, not the implementation method Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #3
There's no good way to spin this, but nice try. Vinca Jun 2017 #5
It's not spin, it's that the whole issue needs to be discussed and studied Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #14
Yeah, it's spin, and bullshit. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #26
You mean like Jamaica or Mexico where firearms are... EX500rider Jun 2017 #31
No, I mean like in Japan or the UK or Canada or France or any other advanced, developed country Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #32
Actually the argument is stricter guns laws... EX500rider Jun 2017 #33
Except they do in other developed countries. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #34
Then the question is it society or the guns laws that drive that? EX500rider Jun 2017 #35
Which pretty clearly displays your astounding ignorance, honestly Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #36
Please... EX500rider Jun 2017 #37
It's largely due to economics, poverty, weak central government and inefficient police, actually Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #38
And yet Indonesia has a lower homicide rate then all those countries... EX500rider Jun 2017 #40
Interestingly about 80% of firearm homicide in the Us are drug/gang related too Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #44
Yeah, even the capture of these murderers isn't really a defensive use of a firearm. But NRA will Hoyt Jun 2017 #13
Not a defensive use? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #19
The police were on their tail. The fugitives were stealing a car, not breaking into a house. Hoyt Jun 2017 #25
NRA Moran Bullshit jpak Jun 2017 #15
Would not the corollary be true as well? LanternWaste Jun 2017 #24
The capture wasn't a crime or violence Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #27
I don't have a problem with having a gun at home to protect yourself. Trust Buster Jun 2017 #4
Does the answer to any of those questions change anything ? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #16
+1000 kacekwl Jun 2017 #28
Very nice....great news they were captured. jmg257 Jun 2017 #6
Then there's this guy malaise Jun 2017 #7
Looks like we can chalk up another one in the "good guy" column, ExciteBike66 Jun 2017 #8
If those that support reasonable gun control safeinOhio Jun 2017 #9
That "way" is fantasy still with today's technology Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #11
If the NRA invested 1/10 safeinOhio Jun 2017 #17
How does the NRA block private development Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #20
No one thought cars could get the mileage they do now. safeinOhio Jun 2017 #29
And it didn't happen overnight Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #30
The story reads like it was a homeowner and neighbor who Ilsa Jun 2017 #10
Another news source: Ilsa Jun 2017 #12
And another anecdote that proves the anecdote. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #22
The two corrections officers should have been armed. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #23
I am not sure one case MyNameGoesHere Jun 2017 #39
On another note, Hale, the homeowner and gun owner, didn't shoot them. Alea Jun 2017 #41
OH NO! It wasn't the homeowners gun, it was Jesus HAB911 Jun 2017 #42
Goes to show the inaccuracies of news reports Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #43
Yep, didn't even pull, or need, his gun. The fugitives just gave up because they were tired, hungry Hoyt Jun 2017 #45
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