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38. It's largely due to economics, poverty, weak central government and inefficient police, actually

Fri Jun 16, 2017, 05:36 PM

Jun 2017

but when you compare the USA to similar countries in terms of economic development every single one has a murder rate much lower than the US.

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The escaped convicts from GA were caught by private citizens with guns [View all] Lee-Lee Jun 2017 OP

Additional details at this link Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #1

Let's all ignore masses of data we DON'T like and instead focus on rare anecdotes that we DO like. Towlie Jun 2017 #18

Like ignoring all the defensive uses of guns and focusing on only misuse? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #21

It's nice to hear one positive outcome, BUT . . . on June 15, 25 people died as a result of gun Vinca Jun 2017 #2

Focus on the causes of the violence, not the implementation method Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #3

There's no good way to spin this, but nice try. Vinca Jun 2017 #5

It's not spin, it's that the whole issue needs to be discussed and studied Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #14

Yeah, it's spin, and bullshit. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #26

You mean like Jamaica or Mexico where firearms are... EX500rider Jun 2017 #31

No, I mean like in Japan or the UK or Canada or France or any other advanced, developed country Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #32

Actually the argument is stricter guns laws... EX500rider Jun 2017 #33

Except they do in other developed countries. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #34

Then the question is it society or the guns laws that drive that? EX500rider Jun 2017 #35

Which pretty clearly displays your astounding ignorance, honestly Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #36

Please... EX500rider Jun 2017 #37

It's largely due to economics, poverty, weak central government and inefficient police, actually Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #38

And yet Indonesia has a lower homicide rate then all those countries... EX500rider Jun 2017 #40

Interestingly about 80% of firearm homicide in the Us are drug/gang related too Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #44

Yeah, even the capture of these murderers isn't really a defensive use of a firearm. But NRA will Hoyt Jun 2017 #13

Not a defensive use? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #19

The police were on their tail. The fugitives were stealing a car, not breaking into a house. Hoyt Jun 2017 #25

NRA Moran Bullshit jpak Jun 2017 #15

Would not the corollary be true as well? LanternWaste Jun 2017 #24

The capture wasn't a crime or violence Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #27

I don't have a problem with having a gun at home to protect yourself. Trust Buster Jun 2017 #4

Does the answer to any of those questions change anything ? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #16

+1000 kacekwl Jun 2017 #28

Very nice....great news they were captured. jmg257 Jun 2017 #6

Then there's this guy malaise Jun 2017 #7

Looks like we can chalk up another one in the "good guy" column, ExciteBike66 Jun 2017 #8

If those that support reasonable gun control safeinOhio Jun 2017 #9

That "way" is fantasy still with today's technology Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #11

If the NRA invested 1/10 safeinOhio Jun 2017 #17

How does the NRA block private development Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #20

No one thought cars could get the mileage they do now. safeinOhio Jun 2017 #29

And it didn't happen overnight Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #30

The story reads like it was a homeowner and neighbor who Ilsa Jun 2017 #10

Another news source: Ilsa Jun 2017 #12

And another anecdote that proves the anecdote. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #22

The two corrections officers should have been armed. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #23

I am not sure one case MyNameGoesHere Jun 2017 #39

On another note, Hale, the homeowner and gun owner, didn't shoot them. Alea Jun 2017 #41

OH NO! It wasn't the homeowners gun, it was Jesus HAB911 Jun 2017 #42

Goes to show the inaccuracies of news reports Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #43

Yep, didn't even pull, or need, his gun. The fugitives just gave up because they were tired, hungry Hoyt Jun 2017 #45