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MindMover

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Mon Jul 9, 2012, 02:10 PM Jul 2012

Serf city here we come .... [View all]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A new law will let companies contribute billions of dollars less to their workers' pension funds, raising concerns about weakening the plans that millions of Americans count on for retirement.

But with many companies already freezing or getting rid of pension plans, many critics are reluctant to force the issue.

Some expect the changes, passed by Congress last month and signed Friday by President Barack Obama, to have little impact on the nation's enormous $1.9 trillion in estimated pension fund assets. And it is more important, they suggest, to avoid giving employers a new reason to limit or jettison remaining pension benefits by forcing them to contribute more than they say they can manage.

The equation underscores a harsh reality for unions, consumer advocates and others who normally go to the mat for workers and retirees: When it comes to battling over pensions, the fragile economy of 2012 gives the business community a lot of leverage.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PENSION_WORRIES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-07-09-13-32-46

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Serf city here we come .... [View all] MindMover Jul 2012 OP
Brian Wilson and Bruce Springsteen can team up to write a song, "Serf City. " nt raccoon Jul 2012 #1
"...signed Friday by President Barack Obama..." woo me with science Jul 2012 #2
"...signed Friday by President Barack Obama..." Huey P. Long Jul 2012 #5
+1 HiPointDem Jul 2012 #14
Really! What does he care. His pensions are safe and secure. As are those of Congresscritters. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2012 #9
Here's the old lyrics, need some replacements - Anyone care to try,,,, benld74 Jul 2012 #3
Here's my version Art_from_Ark Jul 2012 #21
excellent! i'd like to hear someone play it. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #22
This is the brilliant part of the financial con game. They make people believe that they still Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #4
The Iron Law of Wages.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #6
If that is actually the law of economics then there's really no need for a civilization. Zalatix Jul 2012 #7
My Grandfather worked for subsistance wages as a Steel Worker. My Father was in the Union.... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #8
labor *is* international -- it moves around the world per capital's dictates. look at immigration HiPointDem Jul 2012 #12
I was thinking more on a Wobbly line... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #15
you mean its not *organized* internationally. or domestically either, for that matter. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #16
Bingo Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #17
yep, that's a problem -- maybe *the* problem. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #18
Three choices: Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #19
Wow. I guess we *can* all just get along. pa28 Jul 2012 #10
kr HiPointDem Jul 2012 #11
Kill serf city Edweird Jul 2012 #13
K & R dreamnightwind Jul 2012 #20
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