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33. Pessimistic

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 12:07 AM

Jun 2017

If I recall correctly, most Democratic candidates ran as far away from the ACA as possible, and not because it did not offer single payer or Medicare for all. It was because the plan was so demonized by the ruling class and their partners in the corporate media. Why didn't Democrats promote the dropping numbers of uninsured and the other benefits of some aspects of the plan? Maybe they did, but it certainly was overshadowed by negative portrayals of it. And now the narrative will be that it is collapsing because the other party is doing all they can to contribute to that. I hope I'm wrong, but that's just my feelings.

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Republicans are about to make Medicare-for-all much more likely [View all] Jimbo101 Jun 2017 OP

I am hoping people realize the danger of what Republicans are going to do to them MiddleClass Jun 2017 #1

obamacare was originally created by the heritage foundation precisely as a right-wing alternative unblock Jun 2017 #2

good post. ++++++++ JHan Jun 2017 #6

Pubs inserted more than 200 amendments while pretending Hortensis Jun 2017 #7

good points. unblock Jun 2017 #9

Subsidies, where strictly Democrat MiddleClass Jun 2017 #13

Exactly, and that's why technically unworkable MiddleClass Jun 2017 #8

Your post highlights how absurdly this country indulges Cosmocat Jun 2017 #19

The Heritage Foundation needs to GTFO out of our government. Initech Jun 2017 #42

boy medicare starting at 55 burnbaby Jun 2017 #3

I think that would solve our biggest problem right now MiddleClass Jun 2017 #10

People over 55 are much more likely to have a Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #27

That was what HRC was proposing. Gradual expansion. ehrnst Jun 2017 #32

Yeah, Democrats will be like "incrementalists, we did it your way and it failed. We're geek tragedy Jun 2017 #4

Straight forward, direct approaches to public policy is the only way to go Yavin4 Jun 2017 #5

I think Trumpcare will be the wooden stake into the republican party's workinclasszero Jun 2017 #11

While I agree with your thinking MiddleClass Jun 2017 #14

And another caveat not fooled Jun 2017 #17

"They will phase in the hurt gradually" Ligyron Jun 2017 #22

Think about it, Bush called it voodoo economics in 1980 MiddleClass Jun 2017 #25

Bill Clinton did NOT fight for socialized health care. Jim Lane Jun 2017 #20

that is exceptionally misleading in terms of the ACA dsc Jun 2017 #21

I'm not assigning blame. I'm stating the FACTS about the situation under the ACA. Jim Lane Jun 2017 #23

Again, clarity is welcomed MiddleClass Jun 2017 #28

Did you forget the 4th group? Merlot Jun 2017 #34

Thanks for clearing that up. MiddleClass Jun 2017 #26

but will it be funded? pansypoo53219 Jun 2017 #12

That's the main reason why I say lower Medicare to 55 MiddleClass Jun 2017 #15

And if they do pass their boondoggle of a bill Dems will regain power. airmid Jun 2017 #16

I hope our side has people writing up such a plan as we speak IronLionZion Jun 2017 #18

Exactly, no Obama care type of internal battles MiddleClass Jun 2017 #29

Do you understand that we will not get that opportunity? If we lose the ACA, we get nothing. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #37

Good info in this excellent thread. Ligyron Jun 2017 #24

Republican Trump may call it "mean" but he endorsed it and was ready to SIGN it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #30

Some states will try to create healthcare for all More_Cowbell Jun 2017 #31

Pessimistic hibbing Jun 2017 #33

As if Democrats could ever pass Single-Payer JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2017 #35

That is bullshit...and any who don't fight for the death for Obamacare are foolish...we will never Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #36

This would be so much easier to do if Mitch McConnell was properly imprisoned. joet67 Jun 2017 #38

I fear their definition of "All" Crash2Parties Jun 2017 #39

That there is a lot of optimism about the American electorate MrScorpio Jun 2017 #40

Single payer - it's time. Cut the BS and just get it done. Constantly jerking Americans from one WestSeattle2 Jun 2017 #41