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63. Isn't this why slapping a on a federal band-aid...

Sat Jun 17, 2017, 09:19 PM

Jun 2017

...to solve a state by state issue is a waste of time?

IMHO, many gun issues need state level solutions. Often state level issues don't draw enough attention to ever get folks moving. Passing some grand federal law finds allies everywhere. There's national attention and media. We also have federal laws that sound nice but the money for enforcement is never allocated. The enforcement isn't funded. Those laws are worse than non-existent. They serve as distractions.

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James Hodgkinson, the DC Shooter, Has Himself to Blame for Electing Trump [View all] louis c Jun 2017 OP

worse than that, he shot a bunch of people SethH Jun 2017 #1

I'm talking about his motive louis c Jun 2017 #2

And what new law would have stopped this attack? DaleFromWPB Jun 2017 #9

Background checks...the guy beat his wife. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #13

As far as I know, he was never convicted. Per the Lautenberg amendment.. X_Digger Jun 2017 #19

That is not necessarily true. Even if they go to court, in many states domestic abuse is a Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #56

No- even misdemeanor domestic abuse is covered Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #64

Until you end gun show loopholes and internet sales...it really does't matter... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #100

Both of those "loopholes" were closed in Illinois where he got his guns Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #106

Anybody can charge anybody else with domestic abuse customerserviceguy Jun 2017 #84

No, even charged.. under indictment for, convicted of, or subject to a restraining order for... X_Digger Jun 2017 #85

I don't need a next...my point was there are dangerous folks with guns...and until you rip Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #99

You can't until the case is adjudicated Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #107

That's already the case. Under indictment for.. subject to a restraining order for.. convicted of.. X_Digger Jun 2017 #116

Now that's what I call karma MiddleClass Jun 2017 #26

even worse his 17 yr old foster kid doused herself with gas & killed herself. another foster girl.. Sunlei Jun 2017 #44

That law already exists but he was never convicted Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #49

This one: lapucelle Jun 2017 #27

Here is the list of Prohibited Persons. Domestic abusers are already prohibited. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #34

Not all states follow the iterim provisions lapucelle Jun 2017 #42

That wasn't the issue here Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #50

That's probably one of the reasons why lapucelle Jun 2017 #52

Isn't this why slapping a on a federal band-aid... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #63

It took a long time lapucelle Jun 2017 #68

re: "...state-by-state solutions frequently game the system with legalistic loopholes." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2017 #71

That's what makes the Supreme Court lapucelle Jun 2017 #74

It's such a no-brainer, makes you wonder what makes gun humping repugs tick? brush Jun 2017 #72

Don't believe everything you see in the movies... Baconator Jun 2017 #110

That's supposed to reassure us? It's definitely quieter. Why would anyone advocate for that? brush Jun 2017 #117

It's quieter but nowhere near quiet... Baconator Jun 2017 #118

Why would anyone advocate for that? Lee-Lee Jun 2017 #119

Are you sure you belong here? louis c Jun 2017 #45

I would think so. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #57

Defending civil liberties is always welcome at DU. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #126

"It is my contention..." panader0 Jun 2017 #17

but people who voted 3rd party, blanks and write ins were, and he was one louis c Jun 2017 #39

No. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #54

But if Hillary recieved more votes in 3 states she would have won louis c Jun 2017 #58

And the people who voted for Trump are the people who voted for Trump. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #61

Um, Hitler was appointed, not elected (similar to Bush 2000) - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #80

Sorry to clutter your mind with the facts......... louis c Jun 2017 #94

Well, since we're talking 'facts,' the Nazi Party received a plurality, not a majority, in KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #95

Just like Trump louis c Jun 2017 #101

Dumbest opinion piece ever... HopeAgain Jun 2017 #3

Beat me too it! Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #5

When an election is a clear choice, make the right choice. Blue_true Jun 2017 #6

It's that's simple. And not difficult to grasp ++++++++++ JHan Jun 2017 #89

Seriously...he shot folks who are GOP...while he put them in office. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #14

yep. iamthebandfanman Jun 2017 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #24

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #46

To listen to this BS Mariana Jun 2017 #86

but the people who hate Trump louis c Jun 2017 #104

It's a fact they made up the marginal difference Mariana Jun 2017 #108

Yep. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #111

Word. nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #4

Divisive progressive-bashing. /nt philly_bob Jun 2017 #7

I don't consider that guy a progressive...those who voted for Hillary in the election are Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #15

He wasn't a progressive, Progressive dog Jun 2017 #22

'Green Spoiler' - Soylent green that's gone bad. GoneOffShore Jun 2017 #48

that gun nut piece of shit was not a progressive. JI7 Jun 2017 #35

People who don't vote or vote Green... Expecting Rain Jun 2017 #8

Folks, this guy was from Illionis where Hillary had no trouble winning. His vote was worthless to Jim Beard Jun 2017 #10

thanks, I was about to point that out and will comment Blue Ridge Virginia Jun 2017 #11

I live in Texas so my vote is always pissed off, all up and down the ballot. Jim Beard Jun 2017 #65

He may have cost us Georgia 6 and when he spreads hatred on his face book Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #16

He was likely a libertarian that grabbed on to Sanders proposals. Blue_true Jun 2017 #69

He was not a libertarian...he was a a Dem...I read his past post going back to Obama...and then Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #103

Ossoff and his people must point out that Bernie did not endorse Ossoff. Blue_true Jun 2017 #112

Yeah, where people live does actually make a difference. TDale313 Jun 2017 #29

it's not just his own vote. it was his bashing and getting others to do the same JI7 Jun 2017 #38

but the folks in Wisconsin, Penn. amd Mich did, and they thought like him louis c Jun 2017 #40

Thanks. elleng Jun 2017 #77

Yup. +1 nt riderinthestorm Jun 2017 #102

One of the idiots who were shaped by Russian Republicans MiddleClass Jun 2017 #12

A vote for anyone other than Hillary is a vote for Trump IronLionZion Jun 2017 #18

We also have an electoral college TDale313 Jun 2017 #30

Popular vote helps provide the mandate IronLionZion Jun 2017 #51

Their side could care less. TDale313 Jun 2017 #70

I could care less what their side thinks IronLionZion Jun 2017 #82

It's irrelevant. He was never going to vote for Hillary. progressoid Jun 2017 #20

I don't know where this idea comes from Mariana Jun 2017 #115

Hillary won his state Not Ruth Jun 2017 #21

If you read the OP louis c Jun 2017 #41

K&R stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #25

it's not just the vote but the hate and lies he spread against the dem while voting for Putin troll JI7 Jun 2017 #28

Unfortunately there are mentally ill on both sides of the spectrum that turn to violence nini Jun 2017 #31

This article reads like bad DU thread melman Jun 2017 #32

+1 flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #47

Right. SMDH nt riderinthestorm Jun 2017 #105

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #33

I'm glad Hillary didn't appeal to fucked up types like him JI7 Jun 2017 #36

Considering his history of violence, he shouldn't have been allowed to keep his weapons That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #60

yes dukakis was ahead until the rape question in the debate JI7 Jun 2017 #62

The Snoopy Tank Helmet (so he could hear the tank crew on the radio) didn't help either. That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #75

no, mccain and romney did not do dog whistles either. JI7 Jun 2017 #87

No, I'm not refighting the primary, I'm refighting the General Election louis c Jun 2017 #53

Sure, whatever you have to tell yourself to keep going. That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #66

You'll take heat, but you make excellent points leftstreet Jun 2017 #67

Thanks, I think heat is going to be the norm until we can stop annoying each other That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #78

Did Kissinger actually ever endorse her? lapucelle Jun 2017 #79

Yes and no. I don't have glowing praise for Kissinger, do you? That Guy 888 Jun 2017 #81

So Kissinger never actually endorsed her, lapucelle Jun 2017 #83

+++++++++++++++ JHan Jun 2017 #90

Just to let you know louis c Jun 2017 #121

You're bragging that you voted against the Democratic nominee for president. yardwork Jun 2017 #98

yeah stein got a couple percent & that 3rd party man got a couple percent extra especially in Pa. Sunlei Jun 2017 #37

I hate Trump but I'd rather end him by voting him out of office. Initech Jun 2017 #43

Valid points Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #55

Not helpful to keep bashing fellow Democrats. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #59

Anyone who could not see the danger of Trump and vote accordingly isn't a fellow Democrat. Blue_true Jun 2017 #73

Circular firing squads fail. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #97

the piece of shit shooter was not a democrat. he believed in dnc conspiracy theories and voted for JI7 Jun 2017 #92

I'm not talking about the shooter, so quit making stuff up. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #96

Anyone who didn't vote for Clinton elected Trump. End of story. nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #114

You certainly get my point. louis c Jun 2017 #120

The people who voted for Trump voted for Trump. End of Story. OrwellwasRight Jun 2017 #123

I don't hate anyone. but a fact is a fact louis c Jun 2017 #124

The issue that I have with third party voters. Blue_true Jun 2017 #128

I don't hate progressives that voted third party. But I don't respect them either. Blue_true Jun 2017 #127

Before the Gunfire in Virginia, a Volatile Home Life in Illinois elleng Jun 2017 #76

Short view vs a long view... Baconator Jun 2017 #88

To be honest... LeftishBrit Jun 2017 #91

No shitting louis c Jun 2017 #93

Did Jill Stein receive a statistically significant vote? Oneironaut Jun 2017 #109

Both are the case, but Stein votes still cost us the election, louis c Jun 2017 #113

I agree. Stein voters are all either insane or folks that were so scorned by losing the primary stevenleser Jun 2017 #122

This article will like a hornets nest Renew Deal Jun 2017 #125