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142. Keeping quiet and inaction not the same...

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:38 PM

Jun 2017

In all news accounts I read, candidate interviews I heard or watched and Twitter chatter for each race, it was clear to to me that the DCCC showed little or no support for these races until they were shamed into doing so at the very end of the campaigns.

That's not quiet support. It's not giving a sh*t until it looked like these candidates could win.

The past doesn't matter and cannot be used to pat ourselves on the back for doing slightly better than zero. We are running out of time. The future of the party and the country are at stake this time. As long as Dems are the minority, they (that means WE) have no power. No power means Republicans get to destroy the country and there's little we can do about it, short of a full-on citizen revolt.

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It might be time for Tom Perez to step down [View all] ecstatic Jun 2017 OP

I sure would like a vocal, organized opposition. NightWatcher Jun 2017 #1

YES, a VOCAL, ORGANIZED opposition! elleng Jun 2017 #2

No fuckin' way in hell... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #3

Agree Mickju Jun 2017 #43

+1 onetexan Jun 2017 #151

Thank you! n/t VOX Jun 2017 #152

Poe's law I hope mythology Jun 2017 #4

What, no prison time? BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #5

Or a tumbrel ride to the guillotine? George II Jun 2017 #22

I'll see your mcar Jun 2017 #34

We evaluate Perez after 2018 midterms. Blue_true Jun 2017 #59

At least a flogging with a wet noodle Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2017 #76

"Over the past few weeks, we've seen a completely out of control president & White House." What was OnDoutside Jun 2017 #6

lofl, yeah ... that week were King Con agreed to pay 25 million to settle a fraud suit was meh .. YCHDT Jun 2017 #67

I WANT SCALPS AND I WANT IT NOW! Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #7

I think the media would cover dems. Remember when Pelosi ecstatic Jun 2017 #47

Why? Lotusflower70 Jun 2017 #8

Agree! ananda Jun 2017 #9

A Little Discipline stephensolomita Jun 2017 #10

If he should go so should Ellison. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #11

Not really, no. WoonTars Jun 2017 #17

Then why isn't he doing that now? hrmjustin Jun 2017 #19

Excellent point. George II Jun 2017 #23

. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #24

Excellent question. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #46

+1000 sheshe2 Jun 2017 #61

+1000 JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #74

Because he's not head of the DNC? WoonTars Jun 2017 #96

no excuse! hrmjustin Jun 2017 #97

So lets suppose that he actually did get out there... WoonTars Jun 2017 #99

Well we see some "progressives" are already knocking Perez down. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #101

With good reason.... WoonTars Jun 2017 #102

name them and I remind you Ellison is his right hand man so... hrmjustin Jun 2017 #104

After the unmitigated disaster that was the DWS regime... WoonTars Jun 2017 #106

This is not a reason to get rid of Perez. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #107

They share the job. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #124

who exactly is stopping him? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #78

I heard Ellison speak at a private event earlier this month... brooklynite Jun 2017 #100

No, Keith would starve candidates...so he is non-starter unless we want to lose. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #109

OFFS! geek tragedy Jun 2017 #12

so you want a party leader who will act like Trump? Hamlette Jun 2017 #13

This is absurd. DU posts responses from Democrats to the crisis of the day daily. SaschaHM Jun 2017 #14

It confounds me to see Republicans queued up 4-5 deep waiting to do procon Jun 2017 #15

the reason you aren't seeing Democrats is because the media is ignoring them, not because geek tragedy Jun 2017 #25

That petty, snide remark was uncalled for. procon Jun 2017 #31

How many swing voters watch Rachel Maddow? nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #32

people who watch rachel and lawrence already ate likely to vote democratic JI7 Jun 2017 #66

The corporate media doesn't want Dems on TV.. Cha Jun 2017 #52

Bullshit. The Democrats have been pounding the issues on healthcare, environment, and other social still_one Jun 2017 #16

repukes are making fools of themselves daily on the national stage Skittles Jun 2017 #18

Are you serious? George II Jun 2017 #20

I have been listening to a lot of Democrats address ACA and other issues. pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #21

On c-span? If so, that's wonderful, but I'm referring to the ecstatic Jun 2017 #44

I do not watch MSM. pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #69

Two sides need to be involved for an engagement. haele Jun 2017 #149

They are on MSNBC and CNN all the time...in the early afternoon mostly and sometimes at night ... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #157

Perez could start holding daily press briefings 0rganism Jun 2017 #26

That would be a great start! ecstatic Jun 2017 #38

yes! Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #50

He should never do that...when I hear stuff like this I have to wonder if people want to win Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #111

because we've done so much winning lately, right? 0rganism Jun 2017 #117

I voted for Hillary...and those who did not are responsible for Trump. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #118

would you like to clarify your position? 0rganism Jun 2017 #133

Wrong...we live in a free country...do as you will . I am saying it is unwise to trash the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #144

i did not infer any imperatives from your previous posts 0rganism Jun 2017 #148

we need a charismatic figurehead... bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #27

FDR with the Rock's body... ????? lunasun Jun 2017 #29

You didn't really want me to say FDR "with legs" did u? :) bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #30

Hell, if you're going to dream, dream big kcr Jun 2017 #33

500 FOOT TALL ROBOT MOTHERFUCKING FDR Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #40

Now you're talkin'! n/m bagelsforbreakfast Jun 2017 #41

LOL steve2470 Jun 2017 #159

No Democrat is QUITE good enough for you, eh? NastyRiffraff Jun 2017 #45

That would definitely appear to be the case... NurseJackie Jun 2017 #54

Yes. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #73

You nailed it! tonyt53 Jun 2017 #79

+1 Jamaal510 Jun 2017 #87

Certainly not Senator Tammy Duckworth from Illinois see post 30 lunasun Jun 2017 #92

Wine and cheese crowd -- sounds like a line from a late 70s Woody Allen movie. betsuni Jun 2017 #94

Are you REALLY saying that Obama wasn't charismatic enough? Really? George II Jun 2017 #62

I don't think we need that... only the shallow do. LanternWaste Jun 2017 #98

There is no Democratic savior people...only us... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #125

And would such a candidate win today? I don't know. We need to build for the future. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #156

past few weeks? huh lunasun Jun 2017 #28

Should have said past 6 months. ecstatic Jun 2017 #39

Unrec mcar Jun 2017 #35

Truly lunasun Jun 2017 #91

Oh for Gods sake. ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #36

Knee jerk imo. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #37

I'm not seeing the problem. Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #42

You are so right!!!! and it is so hard Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2017 #48

I strongly disagree with the concept of Perez stepping down Gothmog Jun 2017 #49

Yeah shenmue Jun 2017 #81

Agreed Gothmog Jun 2017 #82

Unrec! revmclaren Jun 2017 #51

I got to agree.... bresue Jun 2017 #53

Im sure the bernie bros are foaming at the mouth for Ossoff to lose nini Jun 2017 #55

Does seem some are not warm to Ossof. Blue_true Jun 2017 #65

I gave him money nini Jun 2017 #71

Yeah ...well their guy didn't endorse Ossoff but endorsed Mello who voted for pipelines Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #112

Ossoff is running as a moderate-progressive. That message triggers some on the farther left. Blue_true Jun 2017 #116

They can't understand the concept of the big tent...but somehow Mello was OK and even Perriello who Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #119

I wanted Dean also. But I think Perez will turn out ok. Blue_true Jun 2017 #138

I like Perez. I thought the unity tour was a disaster but he tried and sort of got stabbed in the Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #141

They've been posting negative crap all week shenmue Jun 2017 #83

No shit nini Jun 2017 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #128

Oh they'll find something to bitch about either way it goes nini Jun 2017 #134

We need Eliot Spitzer superpatriotman Jun 2017 #56

And both lost their elections. weiner dragged spitzer down with him also JI7 Jun 2017 #64

But, but. Who do we keep one away from his dong and the other off hookers? nt Blue_true Jun 2017 #68

Taking on Trump and the Trump Whitehouse is the job of the Democratic and House caucus leaders. Blue_true Jun 2017 #57

GMAFB tammywammy Jun 2017 #58

FUCK THAT COMPLETE BULLSHIT!!!!!!! Foamfollower Jun 2017 #60

The good news is the OP isn't talking about Ossoff, but some guy named Ossof still_one Jun 2017 #80

internet warriors think politics is everyone watching cable news all day JI7 Jun 2017 #63

True, I'm sick of folk wanting a single all out savior of all that is wrong with everything YCHDT Jun 2017 #70

yup. the fact is it comes down to the usual boring hard long work by many people JI7 Jun 2017 #72

It will never happen...what are we a fan club or a political party? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #114

Isn't STRATEGY a part of it? ecstatic Jun 2017 #89

that's not how it works. some areas are just conservative JI7 Jun 2017 #93

Oh I know those mid terms were just tragic...oh wait. There has been no elections yet...just Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #130

What would you have them do exactly? Baconator Jun 2017 #75

ridiculous. JHan Jun 2017 #77

Nah! Madam45for2923 Jun 2017 #84

Unfortunately, I'm starting to think he is not up to the task. Tatiana Jun 2017 #85

I thought he started out better than expected. Not sure.. mvd Jun 2017 #88

Same old, same old... RealityChik Jun 2017 #95

By establishment Democrats GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #121

Did it ever occur to you that keeping quiet and quietly funding an election might be the way to go? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #131

Keeping quiet and inaction not the same... RealityChik Jun 2017 #142

The races in Montana and Kansas were not winnable. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #143

I respectfully disagree... RealityChik Jun 2017 #146

With a different candidate we might have taken Montana. but locals chose the candidate Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #153

The DCCC has only so much money. I actually think it is a waste to use it on candidates who Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #155

Oh please, this is about Ellison. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #113

I'm not so sure about that... RealityChik Jun 2017 #145

We need Howard Dean...but there is still much anger towards the Democratic Party and some use Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #154

Please rethink your last statement... RealityChik Jun 2017 #158

Ridiculous BS. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2017 #90

Nope - that would not be very smart JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #103

Tom Perez? He's not responsible for countering MineralMan Jun 2017 #105

And it might not...sorry. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #108

I supported Ellison for Chair but Perez is fine. I do agree that Democrats need to be more united. YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #110

Those who voted for a gorilla or Kremlin Jill kind of wasted any power we might have had. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #115

Perez seems to be MIA. I haven't seen him on television in ages. Vinca Jun 2017 #120

It really not his job...he needs to be working for 18. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #122

Not his job GulfCoast66 Jun 2017 #123

IMO, we are currently in an "all hands on deck" situation. If you will recall, Vinca Jun 2017 #135

Sounds to me like he's a guy who knows who the stars are BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #129

But maybe we really need a star. We have a reality star as POTUS for heaven's sake. Vinca Jun 2017 #136

Look I like Perez a lot BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #137

Maybe I'd appreciate him more if I knew what was going on behind the scenes. Vinca Jun 2017 #139

It's probably not really that interesting. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #140

Uh....what? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #126

right on get rid of each party official who immediately doesn't meet our standards, mulsh Jun 2017 #127

Yeah that is how we win ...all purging all the time. sarcasm. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #132

Stop it Stinky The Clown Jun 2017 #147

Maybe, but we're 0 in 4 now despite the most incompetent clown president in modern history ecstatic Jun 2017 #150