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JCanete

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29. It's a very important point, that letting the damage Republicans try to do, say to Pelosi, or
Wed Jun 21, 2017, 05:53 PM
Jun 2017

Hillary Clinton, be the reasons that we abandon our leadership is letting the GOP and the corporate media manipulate our party. Sometimes the damage is done though. Clinton basically stood over the grenade for 15 or so years. Maybe sometimes you need to thank them for their sacrifice and realize they took too effective a hit. Maybe not, I'm conflicted on that point. I'm not conflicted on whether or not they should be entirely vilified by us for at least a huge portion of their unpopularity being manufactured. This is one area where I do not agree with the general consensus at TYT, which conveniently forgets that fact when they talk about the unpopularity of people like Clinton. They shouldn't forget that, because it should be part of their argument. Why do Dems keep playing by the rules laid out for them by corporations who have their hands all over our political system, and coming back for more abuse, rather than calling out the game as rigged?

Those are some of the reasons I want a different direction than Clinton or Pelosi have presented us, but I"m okay with either of them adjusting to different expectations, assuming they can.

As suggested in the article, I wouldn't be surprised if should Pelosi get ousted, we got a conserva-dem as the response. Someone less liberal than Pelosi, just more folksy, and as some have suggested, male. Of course our job would be to demand that that not happen, but yeah, people clamoring for a change about "who not" rather than "who" are making a huge mistake.

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MAXINE WATERS !!! Oh wait she's female too, sigh. Me thinks dems need to deal with our own demons... YCHDT Jun 2017 #1
Maxine Waters is hated by the right... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #4
K&R!!!!!! secondwind Jun 2017 #2
Getting rid of Nancy Pelosi would be a major mistake Gothmog Jun 2017 #3
Tom Perez gets a pass. GeorgeGist Jun 2017 #5
HaHaHa Alice11111 Jun 2017 #42
Perfect Me. Jun 2017 #6
Nancy's just fine where she is, thank you. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #7
Not irreplaceable but experienced Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #10
Exactly. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #17
Yep not fooled Jun 2017 #39
They have simple minds. They only know how to take a side. Baitball Blogger Jun 2017 #8
K&R mcar Jun 2017 #9
Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #11
Of Course Me. Jun 2017 #13
Fortunately BainsBane Jun 2017 #15
AMEN!!! BadgerMom Jun 2017 #12
Thanks BabSis. Who the HELL are the trolls out today at DU trying to dump Nancy P? Hekate Jun 2017 #14
Is everyone who disagrees with you a troll? bluedigger Jun 2017 #23
No. Ignorance and stupidity in mass quantities tends to set me off, and it's here today. Hekate Jun 2017 #25
There Wasn't Just One Trolling Speaker Pelosi Me. Jun 2017 #28
Some were/are playing tag team, too. I think one put me on ignore; I don't know how I can go on Hekate Jun 2017 #46
One Has To Ask What's The Agenda For The Swarm Me. Jun 2017 #47
One does indeed Hekate Jun 2017 #48
They From The New Group Put Together BY Tim Ryan & Krystal Ball Me. Jun 2017 #51
there is another thread bashing Nancy. What is going on here. trueblue2007 Jun 2017 #60
Isn't it interesting how the Democrats they so despise BainsBane Jun 2017 #16
Or black people, murielm99 Jun 2017 #20
Just another coinkydink Hekate Jun 2017 #27
Just a coinkydink, I'm sure Hekate Jun 2017 #26
I wish I could rec this a thousand times. GoCubsGo Jun 2017 #18
Thank you, Charlie. Paladin Jun 2017 #19
Yeah, let's just get rid of everyone the Repubs don't like. Then, we will all be Repubs Alice11111 Jun 2017 #44
I'd LOVE to see Franken go for it in 2020. (nt) Paladin Jun 2017 #56
I think he is...and he would be a great Pres Alice11111 Jun 2017 #63
Nancy Pelosi LVNVblue Jun 2017 #21
Some "Democrats" want the "Democratic Establishment" to Progressive dog Jun 2017 #22
Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan. Tim Ryan War Pigs Jun 2017 #24
So you are advocating no women in leadership in the Democratic party? DURHAM D Jun 2017 #31
no not at all. Nancy has all those labels on her partly due to her longevity in the War Pigs Jun 2017 #32
One of the up and coming Democratic women murielm99 Jun 2017 #35
I certainly will murielm99!! War Pigs Jun 2017 #38
Telegenic Me. Jun 2017 #49
What the heck are you even talking about, War Pigs? "California elitists"? Hekate Jun 2017 #55
I have lived in SoCal and take virtually all my vacations there and in Northern Baja War Pigs Jun 2017 #57
"Nancy P has been in the crosshairs a long time" and she's still standing. Remarkable record. Hekate Jun 2017 #59
It's a very important point, that letting the damage Republicans try to do, say to Pelosi, or JCanete Jun 2017 #29
The fact that Republicans are so desperate to get rid of Nancy Pelosi octoberlib Jun 2017 #30
Where is all this ousting Nancy nonsense coming from? Egnever Jun 2017 #33
A couple Congressional Democrats of course octoberlib Jun 2017 #43
The New Group Formed By Tim Ryan & Krystal Ball Me. Jun 2017 #50
I propose a Democratic propaganda machine meow2u3 Jun 2017 #34
The problem is that they have much more propaganda infrastructure MrPurple Jun 2017 #37
.... hadEnuf Jun 2017 #41
I second Tim Ryan and they should have done it in January MrPurple Jun 2017 #36
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #40
Palomino! Never forget! blogslut Jun 2017 #45
I'm with Nancy. dchill Jun 2017 #52
How many DUers live in Pelosi's district? If you don't you can't vote to kick her out. wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #53
No one wants to vote her out of office, but to possibly have the party select a different leader MrPurple Jun 2017 #54
If she is in the House she will lead the Dems wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #58
It's an amazing swarm we have today, upaloopa. Hekate Jun 2017 #61
On The Last Word tonight it was said by Robert wasupaloopa Jun 2017 #62
Brilliant! Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #64
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