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141. No. Senator Sander's atempted that message in the primary,

Reply to geek tragedy (Original post)

Wed Jun 21, 2017, 11:47 PM

Jun 2017

and lost.

Advocating the abandonment of Civil Rights is Republican lite.

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Does the party need to move right culturally to win more elections? [View all] geek tragedy Jun 2017 OP

Ossoff MFM008 Jun 2017 #1

Ossoff shows how awkward it is for us to try to win Romney strongholds nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #6

That election was in Gingrichland JHB Jun 2017 #14

Ossoff was not a moderate...he believed in choice and notice how Mello, Quist, Thompson and Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #25

I saw that pattern too. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #55

We lost in Montana last month with a more liberal candidate. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #28

No. We already have enough GOPers. Think NON VOTERS leftstreet Jun 2017 #2

Not on California it doesn't SHRED Jun 2017 #3

What works in California doesn't work elsewhere. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #7

And that is exactly why all this party purity stuff is nonsense. Egnever Jun 2017 #128

It wouldn't help get the red out Jun 2017 #4

Don't need to win the hardcore Republicans over, but rather the swing populist voters geek tragedy Jun 2017 #8

No...while candidates in red states can run on most of our issues...we can never politicize Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #26

"defuse culture as a weapon" Lordquinton Jun 2017 #140

That is correct! moose65 Jun 2017 #75

Tell that to Sgent Jun 2017 #132

That actually gives me hope get the red out Jun 2017 #142

Elections are generally a sham process ck4829 Jun 2017 #5

correct HAB911 Jun 2017 #9

Not just no, but FUCK NO hatrack Jun 2017 #10

No, and fuck no! ananda Jun 2017 #11

What about conservative Democrats? Jacquette Jun 2017 #34

what's a conservative democrat? OriginalGeek Jun 2017 #46

I can only speak for myself Jacquette Jun 2017 #48

Nah you should fuck off and join the rest of the people who want to push "bathroom bills" Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #60

+ infinity nt LostOne4Ever Jun 2017 #96

Thank you. Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #97

You've only got your toe in the water lillypaddle Jun 2017 #64

I am with...you are a Democrat... I am a woman (white) too...when I go to Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #74

Based on the responses to my op you are not welcome or needed Jacquette Jun 2017 #78

I am welcomed and needed...I am a proud Democrat and a liberal. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #82

By socially conservative Jacquette Jun 2017 #95

Who else should we allow overt bigotry against in our party? Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #99

It means you're transphobic. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #107

no, it translates to being an anti-choice transphobe Heddi Jun 2017 #115

You mean you only support civil rights when it affects YOU LostOne4Ever Jun 2017 #120

You realize that third trimester abortions are for medical necessity, right? AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #147

Technically, a Democrat. I don't want you in our party. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #106

I don't know why you'd consider yourself a democrat Heddi Jun 2017 #110

Wow. This is a little shocking and in denial. Democrats Hortensis Jun 2017 #144

"political bigotry is every bit as real as race and gender" Act_of_Reparation Jun 2017 #145

You have got to be kidding Heddi Jun 2017 #146

We have some and will need more to win back Congress. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #50

If there is a Dem purity test Jacquette Jun 2017 #76

"These are the exact same feelings I've had since I cast my very 1st vote for President 40 yrs ago" Act_of_Reparation Jun 2017 #81

No I don't. Back then it wasn't a problem. Jacquette Jun 2017 #88

it wasn't a problem back then because we just didn't know as much back then OriginalGeek Jun 2017 #105

Times change. I suggest you get with them. Gravitycollapse Jun 2017 #108

So, not shifting your opinion once in 40 years isn't a problem? Act_of_Reparation Jun 2017 #143

Social Conservatives endorse bigotry Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #101

We simply run as Ossoff did...he was pro-choice and came damn close. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #137

Dems used to be 'good liberals'? SharonClark Jun 2017 #47

Political parties, and even elections, are becoming irrelevant to a lot of people... TreasonousBastard Jun 2017 #12

In the Bible Belt, yes. Tatiana Jun 2017 #13

What would the left have to give up, then? Saviolo Jun 2017 #15

it's an incredibly painful dilemma. geek tragedy Jun 2017 #17

That's kind of strong, but it had to be said Kolesar Jun 2017 #109

I'd leave the party if that became the norm -nt Bradical79 Jun 2017 #16

People NOT voting are more important than messages... Moostache Jun 2017 #18

I completely disagree with you. When we had a majority and power we had blue dogs...without then, we Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #20

Some candidates may be to the right...but we can not change who we are...right is right... Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #19

There already is a party that is the 'right culturally'... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #21

We don't need to go further right! That would make it worse, not better! ollie10 Jun 2017 #22

+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #38

No, but in some districts it would make sense to try and project a "traditional" image. dawg Jun 2017 #23

BIGOTED IMAGE Skittles Jun 2017 #104

Not bigoted. dawg Jun 2017 #117

DIG DEEPER Skittles Jun 2017 #125

Sure. Why not register as republicans while we are at it? Solly Mack Jun 2017 #24

Replace Pelosi with Ted Nugent! leftstreet Jun 2017 #32

The possibilities are endless! Solly Mack Jun 2017 #43

Exactly! Eff that! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #40

I agree. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #44

+1 KTM Jun 2017 #90

Seems to me the party HAS been moving rightward for many years... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #27

The country has moved right...and the idea we need to move left is wrong and will cost us Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #51

By what metric has it 'moved right'? WoonTars Jun 2017 #98

I think that "cultural conservatism" could be broken down into numerous components. David__77 Jun 2017 #29

Well too bad for them...we can not walk away from civil rights period...or you lose me and Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #54

I would make a distinction here. David__77 Jun 2017 #113

How exactly would that work? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #136

I think there is a greater desire for some sort of "radical change" than there is desire RadiationTherapy Jun 2017 #30

So why didn't Quist stimulate non-voters? The Dem governor beat Gianfort in 2016 Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #56

Are you asking me why your single data point doesn't support my hypothesis RadiationTherapy Jun 2017 #100

You can't win if the game is rigged justiceischeap Jun 2017 #31

Yes! and also No! FBaggins Jun 2017 #33

Gerrymandering and disenfranchisement covers most of it underpants Jun 2017 #35

This is one way you can tell it's a Wednesday after an election Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #36

A little bit of pandering wouldn't hurt... LeftinOH Jun 2017 #37

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? Va Lefty Jun 2017 #39

Just stop being regressive on the 2A. ileus Jun 2017 #41

Oh Bull. Gunners need to get real about their crappy "hobby" and life-style. Hoyt Jun 2017 #52

And Democrats need to get real about how toxic they are in many parts of the country. YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #67

How toxic who is? White wing racist gun lovers. Hoyt Jun 2017 #68

A lot of lifelong Democrats own guns too. YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #69

One who would leave the party over guns, isn't much of a Democrat in my mind. But, fine. Hoyt Jun 2017 #70

In a perfect world no would listen to ska. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2017 #83

So, let's put more George Zimmermans and Michael Dunns on the street to appease gun lovers? Hoyt Jun 2017 #91

Yes, that's *exactly* what's being proposed here. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2017 #111

You have a very strange idea of the meaning of "progressive" (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #116

If the Dem party throws me under the bus to appeal to Trumpers, I'm gone. Coventina Jun 2017 #42

I'm not in favor of trumpifying the Democratic Party brush Jun 2017 #45

No mythology Jun 2017 #49

This here. Saviolo Jun 2017 #53

Who is crapping on them? Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #58

You haven't seen the dozens and dozens of thinkpieces? Saviolo Jun 2017 #87

So let me get this straight. Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #57

Actually no...I don't. I was angry about Mello...and did not see why we even got involved with Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #61

But, by saying we need to embrace right wing Democrats... Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #62

What I said was ...candidate have to be tailored for their district. That is a fact to regain Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #73

So it is okay Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #89

Drafting the Republican Party has been the strategy Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #59

Today must be opposite day...we had it all in 2008 and the GOP won in 10 Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #79

If I wanted to be a Republican I'd change parties. Vinca Jun 2017 #63

You just go right ahead qanda Jun 2017 #65

No. Moderate with a good message. Blue_true Jun 2017 #66

No! Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #71

NOPE. The shift to the right in the 90's almost Greybnk48 Jun 2017 #72

Hell yeah! We should abandon the wimmins and those pesky gays. Orrex Jun 2017 #77

Hell no!! WoonTars Jun 2017 #80

I think the party needs to be dynamic to match the voters in different areas. LisaM Jun 2017 #84

Absolutely not. alarimer Jun 2017 #85

NO. As Harry Truman once famously said: WinkyDink Jun 2017 #86

so we need to dumb down to get votes? hell NO! samnsara Jun 2017 #92

Moving toward "Social Conservatism" Bettie Jun 2017 #93

No, but we have to address those swing voters more effectively aikoaiko Jun 2017 #94

No gordianot Jun 2017 #102

FUCK NO Skittles Jun 2017 #103

No, we need to win non-voters.... vi5 Jun 2017 #112

No We should be the change we want to see. k8conant Jun 2017 #114

No. We are not evil greedy morally or ethically bankrupt. We are NOT republicans. onecaliberal Jun 2017 #118

We need to establish a law that says: you don't vote, you don't drive. Too harsh? YOHABLO Jun 2017 #119

The party needs to move left economically. Not right culturally. Fait Accompli Jun 2017 #121

Moving right won't help where "Democrat" is a toxic brand Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #122

I would expect the Evergreen College types to get Sistah Souljah'd between now and 2018 nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #124

I sure hope so Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #131

We are in an awkward stage right now Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #123

Do it and I'm gone. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #126

No, we need fair elections. Period. MoonRiver Jun 2017 #127

No iamateacher Jun 2017 #129

We need the Supreme Court to recognize that gerrymandering disenfranchisement Warren DeMontague Jun 2017 #130

After listening to Jeh Johnson today, I think we need to fix our voting machines first.... bresue Jun 2017 #133

I believe the majority of citizens support kacekwl Jun 2017 #134

Racism is a big thing nt geek tragedy Jun 2017 #135

Wait for the pendulum to swing. Trump BootinUp Jun 2017 #138

Never mentioning gun control would be a good start Calculating Jun 2017 #139

No. Senator Sander's atempted that message in the primary, NYResister Jun 2017 #141

Where on that graph are typical Democratic (and Republican) policies? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #148