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36. I support Pelosi, but we should also get some messaging for rust belt voters

Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:09 PM

Jun 2017

since that is what Tim Ryan would bring to the table. I wish Dems from different regions and philosophies would work together more and come up with some short simple winning soundbites like the other party does. Well, I suppose there aren't many centrist Republicans left since that party has swung hard right in recent years.

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Just so you know, if Pelosi goes, she gets replaced with a centrist. [View all] DanTex Jun 2017 OP

The alleged progressives who are trying to push out Pelosi or want PURITY tests on all Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #1

Not to mention they don't know jack squat about how to get things done in Congress EffieBlack Jun 2017 #86

Ossoff chases Handel in a red district that should never have been competitive... JHan Jun 2017 #2

Obviously, Democrats thought the district was competitive... EL34x4 Jun 2017 #41

50 state strategies cost money. JHan Jun 2017 #42

It was worth a shot...but it was always the GOP's to lose. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #51

Your premise does not seem to address LanternWaste Jun 2017 #53

It won't be Hoyer Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #3

Then who? What scenario are all the far-left anti-Pelosi people envisioning? DanTex Jun 2017 #5

Preferably somebody who doesn't remember JFK getting shot Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #8

And we also shouldn't be writing octogenarians off ... just because n/t SFnomad Jun 2017 #10

Crude as it may be, we need to excite young Democrat voters about the House Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #12

Yes, let's get some new blood in there to fire people up ... SFnomad Jun 2017 #13

I will gladly make that sacrifice if we can win and hold the house Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #24

the guy on the left has 300 clones on 1000 radio stations and certainot Jun 2017 #50

So it's hopeless? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #60

you're telling me 95% of americans who would listen to talk radio prefer the lies, racism, misogyny certainot Jun 2017 #66

Uhh... yeah. Actually I do believe that. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #72

so you're saying only racist idiots would turn on the loudest clearest stations certainot Jun 2017 #74

You're describing an awfully specific group of people Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #75

it dominates 40 states with 80 senators certainot Jun 2017 #76

This is a product nobody wants, you can't force it into their ears Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #82

you're being silly with the generalizations. live in a big city? certainot Jun 2017 #97

I don't think Los Angeles has had mainstream liberal talk radio for many years Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #104

it would but it's ridiculous and a waste of time to think it's possible at this point certainot Jun 2017 #105

What's the point of winning the House if, once we win it, we end up with a Speaker who doesn't know EffieBlack Jun 2017 #87

I will take my chances on the theoretical speaker figuring it out Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #89

Yes, by all means. Let's toss out one of the most effective Speakers in history so a "theoretical EffieBlack Jun 2017 #94

emphasis on "history" Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #95

I wonder how many great CA and NY Reps. we've missed out on BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #52

You know these are elected positions, right? EffieBlack Jun 2017 #96

These are non competitive seats that anyone with a pulse can win BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #101

Tell that to Tim Ryan EffieBlack Jun 2017 #106

This is more "anti-establishment" bullshit, a continuation of his nonsense that Trump pushed that bettyellen Jun 2017 #18

It isn't about "outsiders" or being "anti-establishment" Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #21

They're going to have to be massively charismatic then because my generation.. JHan Jun 2017 #44

Man... I had the craziest dream! Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #61

Yes, as President. JHan Jun 2017 #62

Leaders are out there Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #63

I agree, but I'm also recognizing the fatalism towards public services that exists out there.. JHan Jun 2017 #65

why the hell do you expect the leadership in the house to deliver midterm voters Fresh_Start Jun 2017 #54

Because that is how ever parliament like body on earth works Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #59

you haven't provided anything other than your opinion Fresh_Start Jun 2017 #64

An opinion is more than what you're offering Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #71

The House of Representatives is not Parliament. EffieBlack Jun 2017 #90

So, where do I go to vote for the House leaders? Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #92

It's not the Speaker/minority leader's job to deliver mid-term voters EffieBlack Jun 2017 #88

Wow, I just had another crazy trippy dream Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #91

and 4 - don't know even if they ARE active have no clue they will be totally undone by certainot Jun 2017 #49

So They Have To Be Inspired? Me. Jun 2017 #78

If you know how to do that with the status quo, please bring it to the floor Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #83

My Point Is I Don't Think I Should Have To Me. Jun 2017 #98

Okay, but for the time being Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2017 #99

Come Now, There Are Many Way To Manage Pain Me. Jun 2017 #100

Those who want to shove Pelosi aside are not our allies. MineralMan Jun 2017 #4

+1 jcmaine72 Jun 2017 #6

That is such BS!!! Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #11

What is BS is stating that there is "zero soul searching allowed" SFnomad Jun 2017 #14

I have no doubt my post, like others I've written will be deleted after jury Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #20

Do you know how the House chooses its leadership? MineralMan Jun 2017 #23

You are arguing totally beside the point Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #26

Why do you say that discussion is not allowed here. MineralMan Jun 2017 #27

Posts have been removed in other thread Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #29

Have your posts been removed? Actually, I hadn't noticed MineralMan Jun 2017 #30

Here's one Johnny2X2X Jun 2017 #39

delusions of persecution. JHan Jun 2017 #43

Pelosi isn't the only person capable of leading our party ... but why are you SFnomad Jun 2017 #67

Her leadership is QUITE effective... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2017 #16

"Her leadership is QUITE effective..." LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #84

Guaranteed we'll hear variations of this about Harris, Warren and Booker too. bettyellen Jun 2017 #19

I believe we will JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #31

Have you joined your county democratic committee? JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #28

Excellent points, thank you (too bad you have to state the obvious) George II Jun 2017 #40

Well JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #107

+1 musette_sf Jun 2017 #93

If she's not stepping down and the House Democrats aren't going to replace her.... George II Jun 2017 #38

They are dancing to Russia's tune. AngryAmish Jun 2017 #22

+ 1 n/t musette_sf Jun 2017 #45

P.O.B. for me. oasis Jun 2017 #7

My dream speaker would be Adam Schiff. ananda Jun 2017 #9

Adam Schiff voted for Nancy Pelosi to be MineralMan Jun 2017 #25

Great analysis mcar Jun 2017 #15

Excellent post. There's a lot of uninformed opinion going around. yardwork Jun 2017 #17

You make an excellent point. MineralMan Jun 2017 #32

Generally, people who want Pelosi to step down also want Steny out as well geek tragedy Jun 2017 #33

You are exactly right, DanTex SCantiGOP Jun 2017 #34

K&R stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #35

I support Pelosi, but we should also get some messaging for rust belt voters IronLionZion Jun 2017 #36

Pelosi is a liberal dogandturtlemom Jun 2017 #37

This bickering blue-wave Jun 2017 #46

The House Dem Leader's most important job is to rally votes for/against bills. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #47

+1000000 Fresh_Start Jun 2017 #55

No No No...we need to move on to a younger generation, that was the whole INdemo Jun 2017 #48

no no no...we don't need to move on to a younger generation... Fresh_Start Jun 2017 #58

Two votes determine Pelosi's fate... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #56

Of course she is not rresponsible for a candidates campaign.. INdemo Jun 2017 #73

tim ryan was antichoice until last year. he is no progressive champion La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #57

What I find funny about this whole thing is some of the people supporting it... herding cats Jun 2017 #68

"Pelosi is from the progressive wing of the party" LiberalLovinLug Jun 2017 #69

Whether Nancy stays or goes Dyedinthewoolliberal Jun 2017 #70

E X A C T L Y!!! broadcaster90210 Jun 2017 #77

I like and admire her - therefor she is doomed. elfin Jun 2017 #79

If Trump is imeached after 2018, Pelosi would be president. So, business wants to replace McCamy Taylor Jun 2017 #80

There is a need to attract lots of Independents to the DNC, it would result in many more votes for Thinkingabout Jun 2017 #81

And let's not forget that, in order to be effective, the leader has to be very "establishment" EffieBlack Jun 2017 #85

I don't care whether she stays or goes Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #102

I still think they rail against her because they're jealous! The only WISH they had a speaker napi21 Jun 2017 #103