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61. They were not Black. Here are photos of two of the cops who have been charged in the

Mon Jul 9, 2012, 11:53 PM

Jul 2012

case:

2 Fullerton Police Officers Charged In Beating Death Of Kelly Thomas

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Manuel Ramos (left), Jay Cicinelli (right) (credit: Orange Co. District Attorney's Office)

Edited to add, you misread the article, the author was referring to their uniforms:

This black uniformed gang after empting all the high voltage from their tazer guns into the body of a defenseless young man then use the butt of their empty tazer guns to pistol whip this young man’s face beyond a mother’s recognition, all for the crime of talking back with attitude.

'Black-uniformed gang'

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Now, You See My Fists? [View all] Daveparts3 Jul 2012 OP

Jesus Christ ! russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #1

omg! babylonsister Jul 2012 #2

Damn! Is this in America? kentuck Jul 2012 #3

Dear G-d! I couldn't finish reading it and I won't watch the vid. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2012 #4

I watched every minute of it...could not stop really zeemike Jul 2012 #45

Yes, look what we have become. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2012 #52

Good god. progressoid Jul 2012 #5

Good God! Meiko Jul 2012 #6

INVOLUNTARY manslaughter? Zoeisright Jul 2012 #7

Involuntary? 2nd degree? That's bullshit... nc4bo Jul 2012 #8

Yes but they were in the process of torturing him when he died. zeemike Jul 2012 #48

Sick animals. damnedifIknow Jul 2012 #9

Seen this before - GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #10

Why would some sick individual alert on this uncomfortably ugly OP? PufPuf23 Jul 2012 #11

The alerter was of the opinion Auggie Jul 2012 #12

I get it Son of Gob Jul 2012 #17

The OP is one of the best folks one can find on the internet with a powerful lot to contribute TheKentuckian Jul 2012 #94

word n/t grasswire Jul 2012 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Sep 2012 #120

With only 27 posts, what else could he be, but a troll. RC Jul 2012 #14

Here is an earlier incarnation of theirs. Notice the tombstone? Electric Monk Jul 2012 #18

I do see the TS and posts at DU2. PufPuf23 Jul 2012 #21

I place a story about a horrible Injustice Daveparts3 Jul 2012 #24

Sorry, I should have included a sarcasm smilie. RC Jul 2012 #42

Not a troll, a zombie. You got banned for something before, and then registered a new account. Electric Monk Jul 2012 #46

Thanks Ghost Dog Jul 2012 #95

Not long after this damnedifIknow Jul 2012 #13

Too sad malaise Jul 2012 #15

yeah. mad dogs in uniform spreading like a plague. the Earth is overdue for another cleansing. marasinghe Jul 2012 #19

Or the other explanation. zeemike Jul 2012 #49

Somewhere a woman knits, remembering each and every injustice... Junkdrawer Jul 2012 #16

Holy fuck ornotna Jul 2012 #20

After reading that no way can I watch a person die. DiverDave Jul 2012 #22

I watched the video and it is far worse. Quantess Jul 2012 #112

yeah. me too. d_r Jul 2012 #25

kick. nt limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #23

I know I will get hate for this, but... Abra Jul 2012 #26

This is the dumbest post I've seen in a while ornotna Jul 2012 #27

You criticize me for being dumb Abra Jul 2012 #37

Uh, no ornotna Jul 2012 #41

okay :) Abra Jul 2012 #43

Of that I have no doubt Hugabear Jul 2012 #70

Doubt it quakerboy Jul 2012 #111

Didn't you represent Mark Furman? 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jul 2012 #101

He was also MENTALLY ILL. redqueen Jul 2012 #28

I watched the video Abra Jul 2012 #39

Use crisis intervention training or a CIT team to diffuse the situation TomClash Jul 2012 #56

absolutely grasswire Jul 2012 #63

Okay, good answer. I carefully reviewed the tape and have changed my opinion about this incident. Abra Jul 2012 #80

I don't see how anyone could have thought that guy was a "very dangerou suspect" patrice Jul 2012 #84

Easy answer Abra Jul 2012 #108

You are right about the blows to the head. SylviaD Jul 2012 #96

I agree. Abra Jul 2012 #109

It was not the blows to the head (although that certainly didn't help) PotatoChip Jul 2012 #116

Thank you for clarifying. SylviaD Jul 2012 #119

Certainly NOT beat him to death! 1monster Jul 2012 #75

There were no outstanding wants or warrants to hold this young man. the cops leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #30

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #33

Yes. Abra Jul 2012 #40

They knew him. They knew he was mentally ill and harmless. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #72

+1 Blecht Jul 2012 #77

I Love You. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jul 2012 #102

The 'incident' was a depraved, sick and brutal gang murder. sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #35

You are correct, I hate you for attempting to defend the indefensible. GReedDiamond Jul 2012 #38

Sorry to hear that. Abra Jul 2012 #44

I don't put anyone on ignore, so we'll see what happens... GReedDiamond Jul 2012 #47

Not quite... Abra Jul 2012 #50

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt... GReedDiamond Jul 2012 #53

Maybe. Who knows.... Abra Jul 2012 #65

1+ That's what I saw. Makes it no less horrifying & disgusting. & It's not an excuse for cruelty. patrice Jul 2012 #83

Total Delusional Fabrication. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Jul 2012 #104

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" I know about brutality. I hate injustice. And I fucking HATE the police." -Abra, Post #50... GReedDiamond Jul 2012 #71

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #91

�Now, you see my fists, they�re getting ready to fuck you up.� limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #76

pigs.... mike_c Jul 2012 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #103

The cops KNEW him well and KNEW he was mentally ill. tblue37 Jul 2012 #107

Yes, that's an embarrassingly dumb post. Quantess Jul 2012 #113

This has been a huge story here in Southern California (Fullerton is in Orange County). SunSeeker Jul 2012 #29

Kelly Thomas' dad is a retired police officer. grasswire Jul 2012 #62

Yes. But for that fact, I think Kelly Thomas would be just another statistic. SunSeeker Jul 2012 #93

I know quite a few cops. Flatulo Jul 2012 #31

Murder with depraved indifference The Wizard Jul 2012 #32

He was a kind, gentle, and friendly person. He had a loving family, parents, a sister who sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #34

This is just flat out murder. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #36

This event has been all over my local news for a while. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #51

An Empire state of mind TomClash Jul 2012 #54

welcome back, Dave grasswire Jul 2012 #55

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #57

I do believe he was talking about the uniforms the officers were wearing. ornotna Jul 2012 #58

black-uniformed grasswire Jul 2012 #60

That's what it should be. Exactly. A complete DevonRex Jul 2012 #114

They were not Black. Here are photos of two of the cops who have been charged in the sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #61

Black Uniformed Gang Daveparts3 Jul 2012 #74

Thank you for explaining it was the uniforms, not the officers. xfundy Jul 2012 #79

"The OP is a troll, IMO. " Fumesucker Jul 2012 #82

No, Daveparts3 Jul 2012 #86

Dave, are your previous essays available somewhere else? grasswire Jul 2012 #59

Unless there's more than one... pretty easy to find Electric Monk Jul 2012 #64

why the snark? n/t grasswire Jul 2012 #73

I'm sick to my stomach. cry baby Jul 2012 #66

I remember seeing this when it came out. I'm glad the cops were charged. joshcryer Jul 2012 #67

Thank you for posting this MannyGoldstein Jul 2012 #69

Ah, Fullerton PD. Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #78

Have things gotten worse over the years? eridani Jul 2012 #81

What you said.... we're just now hearing about it more. DCKit Jul 2012 #85

Twain said, Daveparts3 Jul 2012 #89

It got markedly worse after 9/11 and has never stopped getting worse. yardwork Jul 2012 #88

Can we talk about police brutality and fascism yet? yardwork Jul 2012 #87

that is the courage of davparts grasswire Jul 2012 #92

It's good to see that the father has a top-notch attorney. In an earlier brutality case, AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #97

I live not too far from there. The police there are so out of control it's not funny. Initech Jul 2012 #98

I believe this is the same incident. grasswire Jul 2012 #105

Compare this with the thread last week -- jerseyjack Jul 2012 #99

His complaint has merit? DiverDave Jul 2012 #117

OOPS DiverDave Jul 2012 #118

Hopefully justice will find these sick fucks. Cheap_Trick Jul 2012 #100

Time to disband this police force- secondvariety Jul 2012 #110

Kelly Thomas was outright murdered. Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #115