Just so you know, if Pelosi goes, she gets replaced with a centrist.

[LenaBaby61]

84. "Her leadership is QUITE effective..."

Yes, it has been. I live in California and I've seen her being very effective up close and personal.

Also, I've seen some saying that Dems have to get certain kinds of candidates to bring out young people to vote. I understand that in the abstract--get a person who will give a person good reasons to get them out to vote etc. However, IF young folks can't be bothered to read/keep up on things that potentially may affect their everyday lives in good and especially bad ways, then oh well, poor, uninformed and suffering THEM

I can say that I'm proud to know many younger people (2 of whom are my nieces in their 30's) who are well-read, intelligent and who keep up with current events, and who KNOW what time it is, and who don't need to be stimulated to vote because the newest Dem is an exciting hunk. Not saying that there is anything wrong with a person in political office who HAPPENS to be younger & attractive and who IS a competent, knows the issues AND who is exciting.

BUT, If Dems go down the road thinking that they NEED pretty, sexy, models or handsome hunks to run for elective office because of their appearance and because of the "excitement" they can bring, and because young voters will LOVE them, then we as a party are DONE.

California went down that road with "exciting" Ahnold, voting him in as Governor after recalling Gray Davis. I had friends whose DEM relatives and their friends who voted for that ass just because "He was really good in the terminator," and because he was "Ahnold." They also fell for the anti-Gray Davis propaganda Ahnold and thuglicans here were pushing. Ahnold flat out fucked Cali up. Left us in a smoking, hot MESS. We suffered LONG after that wide-foot fool left the governorship, and people saw that they made a HUGE mistake replacing Gray Davis with him after all. Yeah, no shit. NO Davis wasn't perfect, but he was a hell of a lot better than Ahnold. He just wasn't as "exciting" though And as per, another Dem had to ride into California to fix the horrible governing of thuglicans AGAIN. Yep, OLD Gov. Moon Beam had to come BACK to straighten out the smoking, pile of shit that was Ahnold and thuglicans.

Lastly, Mitch McConnell is NO prize to look at AND he's 75. But he gets HIS agenda across AND doesn't give one fuck about what Dems think of HIM. ALL credit to thuglicans who KNOW how to frame a narrative. Dems, not so much. Yertle doesn't even care about his own red-state constituents unless they're part of that 1% he loves & are part of HIS family/friends etc. The rubes in his state are slowly catching on to the fact that THEY will be destroyed if this death bill passes, meaning many will lost their health care. But he wants it passed. Oh well. Also, I'll be damned if thuglicans throw HIS ass under the bus just because we Dems loath him and think he's an a moral POS. Look at the death care bill he's pushing. Dems are up nights fretting over this tRump/GOP death care bill, while at the same time calling for Pelosi to leave her post in the Dem party because she's too liberal. SOME think it's her fault because Ossoff lost to an R in a ruby red district that hadn't elected a Dem there since the 1970's

Back to Pelosi being too OLD, and a liability because thuglicans don't like her liberalism and demonize her--of course because she's a woman of course. Well, OLD Mitch the MAN sure isn't having a problem being called old is he? He's is secure in his post, AND that murderer will sleep very well tonight after release of his death care bill today. Hell, most thuglicans sleep well at night. Meanwhile, Dems want Pelosi replaced because she's old and because Ossoff lost and because thuglicans hate her liberalism.