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yallerdawg

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96. Sorry, I'm just consistent.

Fri Jun 23, 2017, 12:19 PM

Jun 2017

IF the first half of the 2nd Amendment is as you state - "It doesn't exist as an enforceable prerequisite" - then all you have left is "unconditional gun sales."

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Obviously, the government can infringe on Free Speech which demonstrably hurts other citizens - but the same doesn't apply to gun sales for some reason. (?)

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3 people were killed at a UPS today. 13 killed in last 72 hours. WHY do we have [View all] Maraya1969 Jun 2017 OP

Compassion Else You Are Mad Jun 2017 #1

I would say that empathizing with them when all they want to do is destroy us FiveGoodMen Jun 2017 #109

And hundreds get killed in cities like Chicago Not Ruth Jun 2017 #2

You are right. Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #6

There actually was a thread for all the victims of gun violence. It's here somewhere if you look. luvMIdog Jun 2017 #3

I just don't see why their shootings should get any extra anything. And the Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #5

some people are slower to learn. Our society has so many thing to learn we just keep trying and luvMIdog Jun 2017 #7

Thanks for that sane statement. You reminded me of my Buddhist beliefs that I let fly out the Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #8

maybe you just need a good hug today. Here have a ((((((hug)))))) luvMIdog Jun 2017 #10

Thanks. Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #15

But quick to unlearn FiveGoodMen Jun 2017 #11

I'm 60 :D Yes, these are troubled times. We have to keep planting trees, sweeping the kitchen in luvMIdog Jun 2017 #13

I found it and thanks. The link is below Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #9

And a possible active shooter now at Travis Air Force Base. JTFrog Jun 2017 #4

I'm with you. All shootings are tragic, but why does it only matter to the media when rich, white smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #12

Every week a bunch of people get shot in chicago. jmg257 Jun 2017 #20

So you think they are more important than the others smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #21

So did i say anything about one victim being more important? jmg257 Jun 2017 #22

It is about being in powerful positions in government. LeftInTX Jun 2017 #36

I must have missed something Abq_Sarah Jun 2017 #14

We do have what may be called well-regulated militias (Capitol Police?)... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #16

Only if you some serious re-defining. Igel Jun 2017 #19

Irrelevant, since militia membership is not a prerequisite for firearm possession. Marengo Jun 2017 #24

If you totally ignore the first half of the 2nd Amendment - "irrelevant"... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #25

It doesn't exist as an enforceable prerequisite, so...ya, irrelevant. Marengo Jun 2017 #26

It exists. You ignore. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #27

Where today is a US citizen denied the right to possess a firearm unless they are enrolled in... Marengo Jun 2017 #30

Try going to the Capitol with your firearm. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #31

That isn't an answer to what I asked and you know it. Try again. Marengo Jun 2017 #32

If the 'right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed'... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #33

Still not an answer to what I asked. Try again. Marengo Jun 2017 #37

Answered. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #38

Nope, and your diversionary tactic is obvious. Shall I take that as a concession? Marengo Jun 2017 #39

YOUR diversionary tactic is obvious! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #40

Still waiting for an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted to persons enrolled... Marengo Jun 2017 #41

It has already been answered. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #42

Still waiting for you to provide an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted to... Marengo Jun 2017 #43

Your comment ends with "?" yallerdawg Jun 2017 #44

Still waiting for you to provide an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted for persons Marengo Jun 2017 #45

I win when you hit "Twenty!" yallerdawg Jun 2017 #46

STILL waiting for you to provide an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted to persons Marengo Jun 2017 #47

Your question was... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #48

Ahhhh, so it IS a semantics game you are playing to avoid answering the question. Marengo Jun 2017 #49

I answered the question. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #50

No, you did not, and you know this. Otherwise, you would not continue with this absurd effort... Marengo Jun 2017 #51

See, you are just playing a game. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #53

And STILL waiting for you to provide an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted for Marengo Jun 2017 #54

At least we know what is important to you. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #55

Still waiting for you to provide an example of where firearm ownership is only permitted for Marengo Jun 2017 #58

The question was answered YESTERDAY! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #59

In other words, you can't as your position is entirely untenable and your only "out" is a... Marengo Jun 2017 #62

Why are your questions... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #64

Mine, the first in this exchange, remains unanswered. Try again. Marengo Jun 2017 #65

#25. Answered. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #66

At this point, you have answered in a manner. By continuing to duck and dodge long after it has... Marengo Jun 2017 #67

#30. Answered. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #69

LOL! Confirmed, you having nothing to support your position. Marengo Jun 2017 #70

Excuse me? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #71

LOL! Yep, absolutely confirmed, you have NOTHING to back your position. Marengo Jun 2017 #72

# 33. Answered once more. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #73

I have repeatedly stated you have not. Rather than acknowledge this and proceed with... Marengo Jun 2017 #74

Since the question has been answered... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #75

Wow! It's rare to find someone who so vigorously rubs their own nose in their own fail, and publicly Marengo Jun 2017 #78

It's YOUR nose in the fail! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #81

Where has the first half been enforced as a legal prerequisite for the ownership of firearms... Marengo Jun 2017 #82

I get it that you support unconditional gun sales! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #83

If that is the case, at some point of time and somewhere in the United States, militia membership.. Marengo Jun 2017 #84

Where in the second half of the 2nd Amendment... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #86

Still waiting on a link or cite to where I've stated I support "unconditional gun sales". Marengo Jun 2017 #95

Sorry, I'm just consistent. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #96

Your position isn't "consistent" It's nonsensical. Government, Federal and state, can and do impose Marengo Jun 2017 #97

I replied to #80 days ago. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #98

Do you acknowledge that I am not in favor of "unconditional gun sales" as I stated that I am... Marengo Jun 2017 #99

There is your inconsistency. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #100

Heller did not find the right to be unconditional, and acknowledged that as Heller conceded the Marengo Jun 2017 #101

It's your argument, not mine. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #102

What condition does it impose? Marengo Jun 2017 #103

The conditions related to our founding in the late 1700's! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #104

What case law do you base your opinion on? Marengo Jun 2017 #106

I have pointed out repeatedly... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #107

What would be the precedent for a reversal? If the meaning is so clear, how can there be such Marengo Jun 2017 #108

Look at any of the dissenting opinions. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #110

That hunting is not specifically mentioned actually reinforces the individual interpretation... Marengo Jun 2017 #111

I own over a dozen rifles and pistols but am getting sick & tired of people Jim Beard Jun 2017 #77

"NRA membership peddlers." yallerdawg Jun 2017 #79

I agree with you, and junked my NRA membership long ago. I'm an FFL holder, and would like to see... Marengo Jun 2017 #80

Odd? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #85

Thank you. billh58 Jun 2017 #88

I do know that there have been instances in the past where state laws were either proposed ... mr_lebowski Jun 2017 #87

A majority of state constitutions enumerate the right to keep and bear arms to varying degrees... Marengo Jun 2017 #89

"Workin' 9 to 5..." yallerdawg Jun 2017 #90

Hey, where's that link or cite I asked for to back up your claim that I support "unconditional... Marengo Jun 2017 #94

'Collective' right is not at all a 'recent invention', it's the 'individual' that's the recent one mr_lebowski Jun 2017 #92

US v Miller, and the case examined only the issue of whether or not the firearm could be... Marengo Jun 2017 #93

Since BARs were very much used by the military (BTW as were short barreled shotguns), jmg257 Jun 2017 #105

+++++++++++ HAB911 Jun 2017 #57

There you go billh58 Jun 2017 #60

I think you need a nap Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #18

No, but Scalise voted against mental health restrictions on gun ownership Orrex Jun 2017 #76

What you said. Demtexan Jun 2017 #17

+++++++++++ HAB911 Jun 2017 #23

Who was it that said .... Tracer Jun 2017 #28

They are public figures inwiththenew Jun 2017 #29

If you can't muster up sympathy... Joe941 Jun 2017 #34

I find that people who have a need to quietly insert a negative comment about Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #35

I agree 100% amuse bouche Jun 2017 #52

"important" people are more important to some HAB911 Jun 2017 #56

Millions of Democrats and Progressives have guns and support the 2nd Amendment. gilbert sullivan Jun 2017 #61

I'm with you on this one. Scruffy1 Jun 2017 #63

I couldn't agree more. nt FoxNewsSucks Jun 2017 #68

Main stream media decides who matters Alea Jun 2017 #91