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muriel_volestrangler

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16. That was the draft from 2 years ago; the peer-reviewed version appeared last year
Sat Jun 24, 2017, 07:55 AM
Jun 2017
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/03/22/james_hansen_sea_level_rise_climate_warning_passes_peer_review.html

Abstract. We use numerical climate simulations, paleoclimate data, and modern observations to study the effect of growing ice melt from Antarctica and Greenland. Meltwater tends to stabilize the ocean column, inducing amplifying feedbacks that increase subsurface ocean warming and ice shelf melting. Cold meltwater and induced dynamical effects cause ocean surface cooling in the Southern Ocean and North Atlantic, thus increasing Earth's energy imbalance and heat flux into most of the global ocean's surface. Southern Ocean surface cooling, while lower latitudes are warming, increases precipitation on the Southern Ocean, increasing ocean stratification, slowing deepwater formation, and increasing ice sheet mass loss. These feedbacks make ice sheets in contact with the ocean vulnerable to accelerating disintegration. We hypothesize that ice mass loss from the most vulnerable ice, sufficient to raise sea level several meters, is better approximated as exponential than by a more linear response. Doubling times of 10, 20 or 40 years yield multi-meter sea level rise in about 50, 100 or 200 years. Recent ice melt doubling times are near the lower end of the 10–40-year range, but the record is too short to confirm the nature of the response. The feedbacks, including subsurface ocean warming, help explain paleoclimate data and point to a dominant Southern Ocean role in controlling atmospheric CO2, which in turn exercised tight control on global temperature and sea level. The millennial (500–2000-year) timescale of deep-ocean ventilation affects the timescale for natural CO2 change and thus the timescale for paleo-global climate, ice sheet, and sea level changes, but this paleo-millennial timescale should not be misinterpreted as the timescale for ice sheet response to a rapid, large, human-made climate forcing. These climate feedbacks aid interpretation of events late in the prior interglacial, when sea level rose to +6–9 m with evidence of extreme storms while Earth was less than 1 °C warmer than today. Ice melt cooling of the North Atlantic and Southern oceans increases atmospheric temperature gradients, eddy kinetic energy and baroclinicity, thus driving more powerful storms. The modeling, paleoclimate evidence, and ongoing observations together imply that 2 °C global warming above the preindustrial level could be dangerous. Continued high fossil fuel emissions this century are predicted to yield (1) cooling of the Southern Ocean, especially in the Western Hemisphere; (2) slowing of the Southern Ocean overturning circulation, warming of the ice shelves, and growing ice sheet mass loss; (3) slowdown and eventual shutdown of the Atlantic overturning circulation with cooling of the North Atlantic region; (4) increasingly powerful storms; and (5) nonlinearly growing sea level rise, reaching several meters over a timescale of 50–150 years. These predictions, especially the cooling in the Southern Ocean and North Atlantic with markedly reduced warming or even cooling in Europe, differ fundamentally from existing climate change assessments. We discuss observations and modeling studies needed to refute or clarify these assertions.

http://www.atmos-chem-phys.net/16/3761/2016/
Only one major party IN THE ENTIRE WORLD supports climate denial sharedvalues Jun 2017 #1
Actually it is only 52 members of congress. The majority of the people are riversedge Jun 2017 #10
And the Koches. And Exxon. And BP. The wealthy and corporate owners of the GOP sharedvalues Jun 2017 #21
No. Exxon and BP believe in AG Climate Change. The Kochs surely do too. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #38
Ok, I agree. They believe in it. They still pay politicians and scientists to deny it. sharedvalues Jun 2017 #39
Oddly enough, the energy companies are fully aware of climate change. yardwork Jun 2017 #34
Ugh. That makes 40% of Americans stupid. sharedvalues Jun 2017 #40
Assad's party in Syria supports climate denial and is out of the Paris Accord. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #37
"One major non-dictatorial party." Better? :) sharedvalues Jun 2017 #41
;) Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #42
Plus, anthropocentric climate change, just like radiocarbon dating, are plots by Satan to KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #49
I watch people buying beachfront property on HGTV all the time and cringe. applegrove Jun 2017 #2
Bummer. WheelWalker Jun 2017 #3
If that prediction is accurate, I think the human species has a very short time. Doodley Jun 2017 #4
That, or we learn a bit from the Dutch Brother Buzz Jun 2017 #6
Trump Levee Builders, a Trump Organization company dalton99a Jun 2017 #14
I wonder if that's not actually the endgame cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2017 #20
Maybe not the species as we can be surprisingly adaptive. misanthrope Jun 2017 #45
I'm sure our species will make it. NutmegYankee Jun 2017 #47
We survived ice ages by taking to caves, wearing animal skins and learning to control fire. Doodley Jun 2017 #48
None of which would kill every last human being. NutmegYankee Jun 2017 #52
As long as there is it doesn't turn nuclear. Okay humans would still exist, but the Doodley Jun 2017 #56
I remember back when the Bush Admin tried to silence Hansen. suffragette Jun 2017 #5
No one mentions how population growth is a major contributor of climate change. BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #7
The GOP is tackling that problem...kill the poor and elderly! angstlessk Jun 2017 #8
I was thinking the same thing. BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #9
The only country that has tried in modern times is China Kentonio Jun 2017 #11
One woman, one child, one century, one billion. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #19
Most do not want to face this fact. Duppers Jun 2017 #32
Funny you mentioned this now since I was just discussing this with a friend. BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #35
"Monstrous" Ha! There we go. Duppers Jun 2017 #36
Not just climate change but the entire Anthropocene extinction. misanthrope Jun 2017 #46
Melt guss Jun 2017 #12
Think about d_r Jun 2017 #18
all those dead Republicans :) - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #53
Where did you find this info? BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #23
National Geo guss Jun 2017 #24
It took 50,000 years for the last sea level rise of 10 feet Not Ruth Jun 2017 #13
+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #15
That was the draft from 2 years ago; the peer-reviewed version appeared last year muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #16
Very interesting, thanks! BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #22
Massively declining value forecast for Mar a Lago Achilleaze Jun 2017 #17
Don't Cry for Me Mar-a-lago jpak Jun 2017 #25
It's new name will be greymattermom Jun 2017 #28
waterfrofnt enid602 Jun 2017 #31
Wall Street will be underwater in more ways than one. democratisphere Jun 2017 #26
And call me crazy, but it could well be way faster than that . . . hatrack Jun 2017 #27
I'm 9' above mean sea level (MSL) trof Jun 2017 #29
My grandfather's farm in Holland is below sea level. Has been for a long time now. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #44
And yet Florida keeps voting for Repuplicans Bleacher Creature Jun 2017 #30
Great thread. Duppers Jun 2017 #33
Rec. AuntPatsy Jun 2017 #43
Say goodbye to the following US cities: Doodley Jun 2017 #50
Woo! Not on the list! Maybe I'll have some better access to the ocean by then. Blue_Adept Jun 2017 #51
what Earth will look like if we melt all the ice L. Coyote Jun 2017 #54
The coastal elites will have to move into the red states. n/t Yavin4 Jun 2017 #55
I'm 2 miles from the Gulf. Not sure if I'll live to see this, but it's crazy to ignore it. Sancho Jun 2017 #57
Does that mean I will own ocean front property? golfguru Jun 2017 #58
Every new study says "quicker, sooner, worse." And still... Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #59
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