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joeglow3

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23. So you admit it was dishonest

Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:25 AM

Jul 2012

You flat out admit you intentionally ignored negative months and just started tracking when it went positive. Yet, you did not give that luxury to any other president.

Edit to add, I think people give the president too much credit/blame for the economy. As much as I love Clinton, Elmer Fudd could have been president and gotten the same result with the dot.com boom. Along those lines, Krugman could have been president in Bush first couple years and would still have seen losses due to the dot.com bust (which HAD to happen as that bubble was WAAAAY too big) and 9/11.

I know, it is a losing battle to try and convince an ignorant public that the president really doesn't have THAT much control. Thus, I commend your efforts to frame it in the best possible light.

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Obama's Record On Job Creation Is 157,143 Per Month Since 4/2010, - better than any Republican- [View all] mikekohr Jul 2012 OP

Before I start repeating this...Obama's 157,000 beats Reagan's 166,000? rfranklin Jul 2012 #1

Reagan created 109,000 per month during his first term. n/t ProSense Jul 2012 #3

Aren't we just picking a portion of Obama's 1st term joeglow3 Jul 2012 #18

that's what we do man MrDiaz Jul 2012 #28

1st Term Record mikekohr Jul 2012 #4

And of course the less than excellent numbers we've seen recently elleng Jul 2012 #2

Correct! Public sector jobs have declined by over 671,000 mikekohr Jul 2012 #5

And think of Scranton, PA, elleng Jul 2012 #6

This is a fact that is causing me to lose my hair because the Corporate Media REFUSES... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #10

I'm with you, Stalwart, elleng Jul 2012 #12

Hurrah! Does this mean we can all support the pending job-transferring "free-trade" agreement? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #7

When ProSense Jul 2012 #8

If Obama is in favor of it, shouldn't we favor it as well? AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #17

IS this sarcasm or don't you know? Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #13

Yes I know whether it is sarcasm. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #45

At the same time he's doing INSOURCING summits. Zalatix Jul 2012 #44

Sadly it won't matter. Bigotry and the stupidity of the American people overall will win the day! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #9

DU rec...nt SidDithers Jul 2012 #11

In another two years, we'll be back up to 2007 employment levels FarCenter Jul 2012 #14

It took FDR, the most accomplished president in history 8 years to reduce unemployment mikekohr Jul 2012 #22

Actually, I don't believe the OP's numbers. The curves I've seen project 2016 to 2020 for recovery FarCenter Jul 2012 #25

4,400,000 private sector jobs divided by 28 months is 157,142.85 mikekohr Jul 2012 #31

The math's right; the data is questionable FarCenter Jul 2012 #32

Well, actually, to be more precisely exact :) progree Jul 2012 #33

Excellent! Here's another from the Wall Street Journal (and no, surprisingly its not RW spin) progree Jul 2012 #15

This is dishonest cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #16

Actually, ProSense Jul 2012 #19

You make a good point, though I don't know about "dishonest" progree Jul 2012 #20

There is a very simple reason I started the numbers in 9/2010 mikekohr Jul 2012 #21

So you admit it was dishonest joeglow3 Jul 2012 #23

Name calling and character assasination wears poorly on you. mikekohr Jul 2012 #24

If I had known it was your work I would have phrased it differently cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #27

I Don't Give Reagan Any Slack For the Results of His Economic Policies mikekohr Jul 2012 #29

Tax cuts and deficits do not contract the economy cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #34

How tax cuts are focussed do, Trickle Down Economics Explodes the Debt and Does Not Produce Jobs mikekohr Jul 2012 #35

facts have no place in the republicon campaign spanone Jul 2012 #26

It still amazes me that we (Democrats) continue to try to use facts liberal N proud Jul 2012 #30

How about number of jobs produced per capita, or percentage job increase? progree Jul 2012 #36

Excellent Point About Carter Outperforming Reagan and BOTH Bushes combined on monthly job creation mikekohr Jul 2012 #37

I still think the various presidents' job creation records needs to be scaled by population size or progree Jul 2012 #41

Compare Truman's record to Eisenhower's. Eisenhower's sucks. Compare Eisenhowers to Kennedy's mikekohr Jul 2012 #42

Well why don't you be fair and scale the job creation records according to size of labor force? progree Jul 2012 #43

Are you hiding that Reagan's first term was better than Obama's last 28 months, when scaled? progree Jul 2012 #46

Mind numbing, tedious, and ultimately a turn off. mikekohr Jul 2012 #48

So are wrong numbers and apples to oranges comparisons progree Jul 2012 #49

Glass/Steegal was repealed by Gramm/Leach a Republican Written Bill mikekohr Jul 2012 #50

Are you trying to hide the fact that even Bush II had a better 21- and 28-month job creation record? progree Jul 2012 #51

Hmm, just noticed another false statement - unemployment grows when a Republican is in the White Hse progree Aug 2012 #52

Now that Bill Clinton Is Saying What I Said in the Original Post Will You Quit Splitting Hairs mikekohr Aug 2012 #53

Bill Clinton? What did he say that agrees with you and disagrees with what I said? progree Aug 2012 #54

and when does the jobs report come out.....was waiting for it yesterday.... a kennedy Jul 2012 #38

Monthly Job Creation is the Number Being Discussed Here. mikekohr Jul 2012 #39

The famous jobs report -- both the payroll jobs and the unemployment rate -- come out FIRST FRIDAY progree Jul 2012 #40

That's true. ananda Jul 2012 #47

Job numbers through July 2012 (updated with the August 3 job numbers) progree Aug 2012 #55