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52. Really? - let's review:

Sat Jun 24, 2017, 10:01 PM

Jun 2017

"...help others... Hillary would have been worse... help children... intelligent and compassionate... have good judgment... not evil... "

So the REAL CULPRITS is the "Great Wurlitzer"??????:

"...targeted by remote conditioning... Fox News... (false equivalency)... moderator sides with the liar... (secessionists)... LYING, EVIL CONSERVATIVE MEDIA... owners, advertisers (of media)..."

**********Uh, no. DRUMPF supporters are NOT innocent pawns. They kept their RACISM and HATE silent for a generation until the a-hole DRUMPF and the wingnut media gave them PERMISSION to let their real inner selves show themselves.

They are not innocent victims. They are A-holes. As for "good" people: HITLER loved dogs; LIMBAUGH loves Xmas; the KOCH brothers and innumerable Wingnut BigWigs have donated more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to charity than I can ever dream of but they are NOT GOOD.

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I know some very good, kind and gentle Trump supporters. [View all] PurgedVoter Jun 2017 OP

They voted for a man who said "you can grab them by the pussy" ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #1

Yes, they did. PurgedVoter Jun 2017 #4

The hardcore Trump supporters I know are assholes. Really. ismnotwasm Jun 2017 #22

Yeah, me too. mountain grammy Jun 2017 #53

Me too, but they're nice to those they see as their own. Hortensis Jun 2017 #169

Honestly, I think it's impossible for a left wing version of what's wrong with the right. mountain grammy Jun 2017 #172

We're very different, and in my sincere opinion after Hortensis Jun 2017 #219

I don't think we're so different. mountain grammy Jun 2017 #251

Well, I agree w you too. Finally, the left is fighting back, Alice11111 Jun 2017 #257

I agree. We would still probably be out of step w other Alice11111 Jun 2017 #256

do you think this bdamomma Jun 2017 #250

blah blah blah -- quit excusing their bigotry obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #23

+1 narnian60 Jun 2017 #209

+10,000 atreides1 Jun 2017 #227

+1000. stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #231

They are asleep...every second of every day. pangaia Jun 2017 #30

You say they are caring and kind and help people... sheshe2 Jun 2017 #32

Exactly. athena Jun 2017 #107

I know people of color who voted for him. cwydro Jun 2017 #121

ITA brer cat Jun 2017 #128

Thank you, brer cat. athena Jun 2017 #134

If they call clear videotape "a liberal media lie," then you consort with beyond-stupid creatures. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #200

Yes. Evil. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #235

Completely squashing the argument "that was locker room talk" rock Jun 2017 #241

Is anyone good, kind and gentle 100% of the tim marylandblue Jun 2017 #5

They didn't vote FOR him because he said that, they voted for him IN SPITE of his saying that trentwestcott Jun 2017 #156

Dream on. Our style of government is not made to handle the kind of extremists that catbyte Jun 2017 #208

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #218

add to that mnmoderatedem Jun 2017 #167

I begged my mother, in Texas, not to vote for him after that. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #258

Fox brainwashing Dem2 Jun 2017 #2

Excellent idea! n/t femmedem Jun 2017 #38

Are these the kind of people who watched the debates? leftstreet Jun 2017 #3

For the ones.I know, yes they saw all that marylandblue Jun 2017 #7

Are they telling you now they made a mistake? leftstreet Jun 2017 #12

I view bigotry as largely unconscious marylandblue Jun 2017 #42

It's amazing that all this targeting seems not to affect black women La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #6

This is a fundamental truth that needs to be confronted. yardwork Jun 2017 #8

+ a zillion . Someone telling me it was men who liked voting for trump . I mention the low lunasun Jun 2017 #18

yup. it always comes down to that but people still want JI7 Jun 2017 #19

And apparently tazkcmo Jun 2017 #34

Yeah, aren't we something? Ligyron Jun 2017 #68

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #70

+1000 gollygee Jun 2017 #46

Remember the song from "South Pacific"... luvtheGWN Jun 2017 #102

The song is bullshit. Mariana Jun 2017 #267

Nothing odd about that at all Egnever Jun 2017 #120

I think their "kind and gentle" nice is the biblical equivalent of praying on the street corners. hunter Jun 2017 #125

I Know Plenty of Them and They Are Perfectly Fine With Trump as Long as They can Get Their Tax Cuts Stallion Jun 2017 #9

Sorry, but no..... Laurian Jun 2017 #10

Yes I Tell Them Voting for Trump Goes on Their "Permanent Record" Stallion Jun 2017 #13

I agree! And when they and everyone they love lose their programs... bresue Jun 2017 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues Jun 2017 #11

who tells them they have to listen to Fox Fucking News? Skittles Jun 2017 #71

Have you told them to wake the f up yet? Quanta Jun 2017 #14

Sheep and dogs are nice too...but do we let them go off the cliff!!! bresue Jun 2017 #16

Tell the for me, in the nicest possible way, to go rzemanfl Jun 2017 #17

Kind and gentle but sorta fucked up huh? Oh well not everyone thinks for themselves but cool story lunasun Jun 2017 #20

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2017 #78

So true. I tried to warn them, but they were on some sort of high from the daring of this man. The Wielding Truth Jun 2017 #95

Sorry, they are not kind and gentle and good obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #21

Let me be kind malaise Jun 2017 #24

I am fucking SICK of hearing excuses for Trump supporters Skittles Jun 2017 #72

For reals let me puke with you in unison lunasun Jun 2017 #81

Same here malaise Jun 2017 #165

I wouldn't let kids near them! bettyellen Jun 2017 #25

I wouldn't let them dog sit. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #26

I tell them what I believe PurgedVoter Jun 2017 #27

There can be no forgiveness for them. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #36

I have neighbors like that, kind, always willing to help someone, and far from wealthy! However, napi21 Jun 2017 #28

That sounds terribly familiar. pangaia Jun 2017 #88

AND they don't care! They live their own life. Might extend it to their neighborhood, but that's napi21 Jun 2017 #146

I remember watching mobster movies when I was young Patterson Jun 2017 #29

Same with the Nazis that ran concentration camps. Laffy Kat Jun 2017 #116

I know of one decent Trump supporter and I think she's disconnected from the news. Drunken Irishman Jun 2017 #31

A lot of normally nice people can be stirred up to do bad things, like vote for Trump. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #33

More about fear... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #45

A lot of good Germans went outside and watched thier neighbors or storekeepers be removed to lunasun Jun 2017 #87

WOW. Awwwsome OP. furtheradu Jun 2017 #35

Trump gave ample examples that he is an asshole and a hater SHRED Jun 2017 #37

That is called the banality of evil. ananda Jun 2017 #39

people who are good, kind and gentle do NOT support misogynist, racist ASSHOLES Skittles Jun 2017 #40

They do if they are gullible and scared. n/t janx Jun 2017 #43

NO THEY DON'T Skittles Jun 2017 #48

They can if they're brainwashed by fear mongering. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #54

I absolutely disagree Skittles Jun 2017 #66

Those people support him too, but there's still some people who were gullible enough... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #75

there is no excuse Skittles Jun 2017 #79

Oh, but it makes them feel good about themselves! Lol. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #84

And again, let's go back to Lioness's question: how come people of color are largely immune to Squinch Jun 2017 #69

you echo my sentiment above Skittles Jun 2017 #74

Have you ever met a black person who thinks that ALL cops are bad? Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #76

How does that answer the question? Squinch Jun 2017 #93

I think some of them are brainwashed too, but I'll give another example. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #103

"I think some of them are brainwashed too." I lulzed. Squinch Jun 2017 #109

What's the question exactly? Brainwashing in general? That was answered. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #115

If you are someone who falls for the Trump(R), Breitbart, Fox news fearmongering, Squinch Jun 2017 #234

True, but... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #237

This BEGAN with the demonization of others. No one went to Fox and Breitbart Squinch Jun 2017 #253

If that's the case, there's better outlets than FOX News for that. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #254

But the more extreme sites don't allow them to pretend they are not terrible. Squinch Jun 2017 #255

I agree with that. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #259

you get it, squinch Skittles Jun 2017 #261

That was a lot more intense than just the media treestar Jun 2017 #206

Good point. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #211

Are you kidding here? Policing as an institution in the United States has been shown, time and Coventina Jun 2017 #239

I'm mostly saddened when it reaches the level of thinking each indivudual cop... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #240

The fearmongering is intended to frighten white people marylandblue Jun 2017 #77

OK. Well, I am a white woman. Why is the fear mongering not working on me? Why did it not Squinch Jun 2017 #86

Exactly! It's propaganda but you need a willing subject to listen lunasun Jun 2017 #150

Also, much of the brainwashing is wrapped in patriotism. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #82

It's not brainwashing. It's confirmation of bias. They were bigoted to begin with. This just Squinch Jun 2017 #90

That's probably true in most cases! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #98

best reply in the whole thread. good grok. n/t reflection Jun 2017 #236

give me a minute here. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #139

Yes you do! Squinch Jun 2017 #166

You must be kidding. It works on all groups. Just depends on what the fear is 7962 Jun 2017 #226

You misunderstand my point, which is this: why is this particular Squinch Jun 2017 #233

Don't people have some responsibility treestar Jun 2017 #205

Yes, they're responsible. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #210

Scared of what Mexicans , Muslims and BLM ? lunasun Jun 2017 #89

Yes... if they're stupid enough to watch FOX News and swallow all of it. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #110

Scared of what? 6000eliot Jun 2017 #135

Sorry, but no. kcr Jun 2017 #184

Thank you!!! Coventina Jun 2017 #238

PurgedVoter: SCantiGOP Jun 2017 #41

AGREE with WHAT? That "kind and good" people allied themselves with "LOCK HER UP!"? With the Billy WinkyDink Jun 2017 #201

Thanks, please put me on your Ignore list SCantiGOP Jun 2017 #213

The only good, kind and gentle Trump supporters I know: lambchopp59 Jun 2017 #44

Their actions are hurting my family. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #47

"The first thing we need to fix is the lying, evil conservative media." moonscape Jun 2017 #49

I live in a rural area in the Deep South Mr. Ected Jun 2017 #50

I'm so very sorry - sincerely. I grew up in moonscape Jun 2017 #159

I'm with you there, but fortunate in one respect. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #195

They are fooling you JustAnotherGen Jun 2017 #51

Yep. dalton99a Jun 2017 #111

Really? - let's review: UTUSN Jun 2017 #52

I also know a few people who voted for him. oftheforest Jun 2017 #55

Brainwashed is right. Some of them really believe that the Clintons murdered people too. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #61

they had another choice if they hated Hillary Skittles Jun 2017 #73

I think he's a disgusting piece of shit too. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #119

the only way I can envision falling for it Skittles Jun 2017 #220

That's surely true compared to those people. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #221

If a person subscribes to the drumpf doctrine they are hardly very good, democratisphere Jun 2017 #56

You obviously dont know them as well AuntPatsy Jun 2017 #57

It takes all kinds, to each his own MiddleClass Jun 2017 #58

Democratic principles are just opinions??! Duppers Jun 2017 #152

The normal people. They are principles MiddleClass Jun 2017 #243

"OPINION"? You think this new Republican "health-care" (tax) bill is just an "OPINION"?? You think WinkyDink Jun 2017 #203

Absolutely not, the healthcare tax cut for rich bill is abhorrent, robotic Bullshit MiddleClass Jun 2017 #244

This message was self-deleted by its author c-rational Jun 2017 #59

Yes, we are living in bizarro world, where people are admiring the emperor's new clothes... Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #60

Excellent, observant, succinct MiddleClass Jun 2017 #246

I don't. yewberry Jun 2017 #62

If you buy evil with your vote, blood doesn't wash off your hands for some random act of kindness. hay rick Jun 2017 #63

I know a lot of people who voted for Trump. They are neither good, nor kind, nor gentle. Squinch Jun 2017 #64

Your absolutely fucking right njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #65

Some very good, kind and gentle people voted Pablo Escobar into the Chamber of Reps of Colombia Snake Plissken Jun 2017 #67

a good new acronym that I got from this thread BamaRefugee Jun 2017 #80

How would you pronounce it ? I'm thinking Poe-whips , powwp? I like it too for in public lunasun Jun 2017 #97

maybe I'll pronounce it "POLYPS", pretty much sums them up!!!! ;-) BamaRefugee Jun 2017 #126

I would describe any tRump supporters using those words elmac Jun 2017 #83

If my crazy aunt poisons my kids, it doesn't matter how nice and gentle she is, my kids are still LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #85

Good-Luck to a middle-class, tRump supporting family ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #91

Are they good, kind, and gentle to people of color, too? athena Jun 2017 #92

Good point. Heck, Hitler was very kind and gentle to children dalton99a Jun 2017 #123

Then how do you explain the biggest Trumpster I know is black? MiddleClass Jun 2017 #252

The existence of ONE Black Trump supporter does not disprove that Trump supporters are racist. athena Jun 2017 #264

Nope, the most racist people I know are black. Making assumptions about all whites MiddleClass Jun 2017 #265

Purged Voter - Thank You! summer_in_TX Jun 2017 #94

Yes!! Well said njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #104

They heard what they wanted to hear from the media. sheshe2 Jun 2017 #142

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #96

that you could vote for trump tells us all we need to know about your character. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #101

Maybe they might be so called good and gentle Doreen Jun 2017 #99

Oh, many did choose to educate themselves. summer_in_TX Jun 2017 #124

In 2020 election, only 1 thing will matter golfguru Jun 2017 #100

At some point... some age... people have to take responsibility for their crap beliefs. deurbano Jun 2017 #105

Excellent post, and very well-said ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #122

+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #197

I'll believe everything up to the point of "quite intelligent" Duppers Jun 2017 #106

Good, kind, and gentle people don't vote for evil monsters like Trump. 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #108

Democracy only works with a free and independent press oxbow Jun 2017 #112

as far as I know, I don't. Those I do know live in fear and are brainwashed followers NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #113

Ummmm...OP fake news/alt facts. malchickiwick Jun 2017 #114

I don't think you really know who they are. madaboutharry Jun 2017 #117

Trolls engaged in Democratic destruction. democratisphere Jun 2017 #118

Great another one of these be nice standingtall Jun 2017 #127

There were kind and gentle Hilter supporters too. Historic NY Jun 2017 #129

Oh good fucking god! leftofcool Jun 2017 #130

Nah. nt Maven Jun 2017 #131

Nope. Scratch deep enough and you'll find crap. davsand Jun 2017 #132

Since you are honest, I will try not to yell DonCoquixote Jun 2017 #133

Hillary would have been worse??? SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN 100000% BETTER !!! trueblue2007 Jun 2017 #136

If they are for the health plan as it seems to be shaking out, they don't sound compassionate. Hoyt Jun 2017 #137

It is possible to be very good,kind and gentle and have supported tRump njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #138

Hannity is still pushing the Seth Rich murder conspiracy. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #149

I know some women as described by the OP, but not men Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #140

So what? they're brainwashed by EVIL.. that makes Cha Jun 2017 #141

Right on. Kath2 Jun 2017 #153

I know, Kath.. give me a break! Cha Jun 2017 #160

Simply limiting our anger to republican standingtall Jun 2017 #143

Sorry, but I don't believe that anyone who voted for someone who mocks the disabled is "kind and lunamagica Jun 2017 #144

Someone who was told crooked Hillary was behind several murders njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #147

Kind and gentle my ass. F**k 'em. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #145

Damn straight.. Cha Jun 2017 #168

+Infinity. The adults deserve a retribution that is Biblical in KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #174

Good Germans. nt Persisted Jun 2017 #148

Helps to be grounded. fleabiscuit Jun 2017 #151

"Grab them by the pussy?" Kath2 Jun 2017 #154

Tell me, would any of these "very good, kind and gentle Trump supporters" Duppers Jun 2017 #155

OK, I am going to pull one sentence from your post. susanna Jun 2017 #157

That's the million dollar question. njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #162

Cult of Bigots. moondust Jun 2017 #158

There are TWO bubbles on display here: Ron Green Jun 2017 #161

I think you are very wise ,my friend njhoneybadger Jun 2017 #163

The responses to this are interesting and I think some are frightening. PurgedVoter Jun 2017 #164

I think that the words Brainwashed and Cult are key here. mackdaddy Jun 2017 #170

Oh please. The people you are calling "kind" and "good" wouldn't lose KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #176

A good number of communists wouldn't lose sleep over doing the same either, so meh. Marengo Jun 2017 #242

Um, Communists didnt start concentration camps. Communists KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #262

Sure, Kolyma and Vorkuta were recreation facilities, and the Laogai was just one big happy fun.. Marengo Jun 2017 #263

Nice reply. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #179

You have not responded to some excellent points DUers made. athena Jun 2017 #202

Good people do not fuck over their fellow human beings. milestogo Jun 2017 #171

They're "good Germans." - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #175

No, you don't. They've conned you. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #173

What's truly frightening is that your collaborationist screed has received 39 KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #177

Ok. I live in the south. I am Lilly white. drray23 Jun 2017 #178

+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #193

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #194

Individuals such as Rupert Murdock should be investigated, as well as the small number of kingpins RKP5637 Jun 2017 #180

Yes, to a large extent anyway. n/t Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #182

These 15 Billionaires Own America's News Media Companies RKP5637 Jun 2017 #183

It's dangerous! They're not accountable to the public through elections, yet... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #186

We have free speech, but little protection against contrived free speech to influence RKP5637 Jun 2017 #189

The Telecommunications Act of 1996 also made it easier... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #190

And, they become more powerful and more powerful. Today, most citizens are a bunch of clucks being RKP5637 Jun 2017 #191

Fuck them. Fuck every single one of them. Fuck them. Orrex Jun 2017 #181

Perhaps focusing our energies towards individual voters, Vilis Veritas Jun 2017 #185

I know a bank where the wild thyme blows, betsuni Jun 2017 #187

Bwahaha! The Bard would approve! WinkyDink Jun 2017 #199

I wish... Locrian Jun 2017 #188

How nice for you. I know none. MineralMan Jun 2017 #192

You may see them as kind and gentle Bettie Jun 2017 #196

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." WinkyDink Jun 2017 #198

They are willing to help people they know treestar Jun 2017 #204

My neighbor is one of those CozyMystery Jun 2017 #212

Interesting how in 8 years treestar Jun 2017 #223

Nope, he hates Obama. CozyMystery Jun 2017 #224

It's a kind of tribalism, I think. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #207

I had a white "deplorable" coworker who was addicted to FOX. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2017 #215

Trump supporters are not just standingtall Jun 2017 #214

A lot of the voters for Trump I talked to only voted against Hillary, they believe the things said Wiseman32218 Jun 2017 #216

Bwahahahahahaaaaa ....yes, only kind and gentle people support these trump quotes spanone Jun 2017 #217

Trump is trying to take health care away from the sick, the poor, the disabled, and the elderly. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #222

The pussy grabbing story was not a secret. How on earth could anyone "good" vote for that???? Vinca Jun 2017 #225

Absolutely, and he committed dozens of similar deal-breaker lapses like that Orrex Jun 2017 #228

Yeah I thought he was done for good treestar Jun 2017 #230

If there was an internet in 1933 DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #229

if you voted for a racist pig you are a racist pig . stonecutter357 Jun 2017 #232

It is far more insidious than mere media BS BSdetect Jun 2017 #245

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhh . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2017 #247

Apparently, I have no understanding of the words good, kind, and gentle. Solly Mack Jun 2017 #248

You wouldn't believe how many Nazi's loved their children, also. louis c Jun 2017 #249

These "good, kind and gentle" folks are NOT good, kind and gentle. VOX Jun 2017 #260

I'm not sure I agree MountCleaners Jun 2017 #266