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Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
33. The buck stops here & it stops at the candidate
Sun Jun 25, 2017, 08:00 PM
Jun 2017

Many people are responsible for losses or wins in politics, each to varying degrees. The individual candidate almost always bears 100% of the responsibility. The national party some, the hired strategists probably more than a somewhat-nebulous national "party." Obviously in this metaphor, 100% isn't the maximum. Either that or I graduated from Dan Quayle University.

Anyway: placing blame on others is, at absolute best, totally useless. We can only change our own actions. The answer to "What would you do differently next time?" cannot ever be "I've got no idea, but let me tell you what my winning opponent should do next time!"

This is the same reason I get mad at the endless Bernie-bashing and nearly-as-bad HRC bashing. It doesn't fucking matter. Bernie would have won the general election! I actually believe this, but so fucking what? He lost the primary. He wasn't the general candidate. "Rewrite history" is not a valid option for doing things differently next time. Bernie is a phony, self-aggrandizing, opportunistic asshole who could never have won! Is irrelevant for the same reason as above: it just doesn't matter. True or not, it just brings up hurt feelings and serves to divide.

If we really, really want to get into the Hillary/Bernie woods, then we should be looking at what they did right and try and repeat it. That would not only help us win elections, it would make us better people.

Sure is quiet here... KTM Jun 2017 #1
Yes, crickets.... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #12
I like his message. He is spot on! smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #18
Funny how that works. (n/t) SMC22307 Jun 2017 #26
Well It Seems As If Schumer is disagreeing with the Fact.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2017 #29
Perhaps... SMC22307 Jun 2017 #32
No shit right? WoonTars Jun 2017 #36
One does blame others when they share a major responsibility for your loss Stargleamer Jun 2017 #2
Schumer ... LenaBaby61 Jun 2017 #40
I could not agree more. Go Schumer. virtualobserver Jun 2017 #3
Senator Schumer said: Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #5
I guess it is just a matter of who says it. CentralMass Jun 2017 #8
Sure. My mom could say something negative to me about my kids or my husband, she's family. seaglass Jun 2017 #13
Well, I think Schumer has the right idea. CentralMass Jun 2017 #16
Not sure I've heard a lot of excuse making... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #6
For some these words are a vile attack on the party. aikoaiko Jun 2017 #7
"...its going to bold" leftstreet Jun 2017 #9
I hope it means that the Dem leadership will finally push progressive FDR-like legislation... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #10
Hopefully it means "this incremental shit ain't working" n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2017 #34
The key is that it should be something the middle class likes andym Jun 2017 #11
" its not going to be baby steps" ZX86 Jun 2017 #14
Excellent questions. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #30
However it is unlikely to smack down Wall St or Pharmaceuticals delisen Jun 2017 #15
Will infrastructure without privatization be part of it? delisen Jun 2017 #17
We can only hope... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #21
It better be. Along with protecting the social safety net. SMC22307 Jun 2017 #25
What the Democrats need is a master marketing team. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #19
Yes we do need a master marketing team... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #22
There is so much we can hit them on! We need emotional, hard hitting ads that smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #27
But, most importantly, we need to tell the people what Dems stand for... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #28
It was a great segment I like the thought of it not being baby steps but bold. Autumn Jun 2017 #20
It was and is refreshing... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #24
+1 riderinthestorm Jun 2017 #31
Hey you. Good to see you. Autumn Jun 2017 #35
Incrementalism has it's place but MuseRider Jun 2017 #37
Good to see you too. When he came on I was half paying attention but he seemed so up Autumn Jun 2017 #38
I hope Chuck doesn't mean the Russians. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #23
The buck stops here & it stops at the candidate Nevernose Jun 2017 #33
In a district that's been Republican since 1978... Spider Jerusalem Jun 2017 #39
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