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joet67

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88. I vaguely remember some mention

Mon Jun 26, 2017, 01:49 AM

Jun 2017

of this around election time. Thought it was the RNC using the backdoors they installed under HAVA. Just didn't know they hired it out to Russia.

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Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin. [View all] dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 OP

Coinkydink stinks Hekate Jun 2017 #1

All part of the Plan OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #30

Link here - elehhhhna Jun 2017 #37

Well Trump would say there should be a second amendment remedy. Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #56

I've always thought this was suspicious as hell. octoberlib Jun 2017 #2

We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited" JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #3

Yes. sharedvalues Jun 2017 #11

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2017 #16

just count them by hand/eye the FIRST time around. nt TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #19

I, for one, miss Chad.... Fla_Democrat Jun 2017 #80

I hear he's just been hanging. smirkymonkey Jun 2017 #120

And it's very suspicious that republicans are so dead-set against it. gtar100 Jun 2017 #28

Add in purple thumbprints... 3catwoman3 Jun 2017 #46

I second that iluvtennis Jun 2017 #89

They'll just hack the central tabulators where it gets aggregated IronLionZion Jun 2017 #104

I remember a time when we did spreadsheets by hand. We can do it again. JoeOtterbein Jun 2017 #116

Because ballot stuffing, vote buying, disenfranchisement, threats, etc have never swayed a paper AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #119

Exactly loyalsister Jun 2017 #128

well, if you're concerned about that amount of tampering, then certainly you will be even more TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #135

Electronic voting can be made secure. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #136

No, you're not sounding old. You're sounding intelligent. planetc Jun 2017 #122

Agree...and you're not "sounding old' whathehell Jun 2017 #127

Statistically Impossible! Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #4

Really? Show the math. Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #5

OK; an overstatement, but the odds are extremely low that 5 States Chasstev365 Jun 2017 #9

I'm just a stickler for math. Loki Liesmith Jun 2017 #22

Really? The odds are low that 5 swing states Voltaire2 Jun 2017 #91

I suppose we COULD actually calculate it Nevernose Jun 2017 #51

Have to add in somehow that Hillary won the closest state Yupster Jun 2017 #75

Historically, betting markets have been insanely accurate predictors. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #132

Old intelligence rule of thumb: once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, 3 times is enemy action. Fozzledick Jun 2017 #6

Auditing rule: There isn't ever just one cockroach. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #25

Oh I just love that phrase! Pacifist Patriot Jun 2017 #40

+1 n/t jaysunb Jun 2017 #82

+1 dalton99a Jun 2017 #87

Defies logic Stinky The Clown Jun 2017 #7

That much coincidence takes planning. NightWatcher Jun 2017 #8

Suppression. Comey said no votes were altered sharedvalues Jun 2017 #10

Seems no one IS focusing on illegal/illegitimate election. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2017 #12

absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. the machines are hackable, end of story. they need t TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #21

Paper ballots are hackable. The Electorate is hackable. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #137

No evidence of ISN'T no votes altered. YUGE distinction, votes altered leaves no evidence. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #26

There is evidence for suppression sharedvalues Jun 2017 #76

election was hacked. stolen. period. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #13

Yes, and thank you for stating that. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #124

It is either fear of the unknown, or inability to "go there" - it is a crime of inconceivable NRaleighLiberal Jun 2017 #129

Yep. That's it. You're right. hamsterjill Jun 2017 #130

Wrong and wrong. BzaDem Jun 2017 #14

machine "recounts" are meaningless, and hacking could easily be targeted to the paperless precincts, TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #23

That's a lot of factually false statements for such a short post. BzaDem Jun 2017 #48

OK. Lets go over it again. Wisconsin went Trump by .8% (post #48) rgbecker Jun 2017 #57

The odds that supposed vote riggers limiting their rigging to 17% of counties that only decided BzaDem Jun 2017 #58

Never disturb a good discussion with facts! TomVilmer Jun 2017 #96

actually, a smart hacker would deliberately target precincts unlikely or unable to be recounted. so TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #133

Where the fuck are all these magical super-beard technowizard hackers? AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #138

#1. a recount never would have happened if Stein hadn't raised $millions in days, so i would say TheFrenchRazor Jun 2017 #134

I believe that it is very likely that the election was basically invalid. nt ladjf Jun 2017 #15

There needs to be Election 2016 forensics....NOW ! nt suston96 Jun 2017 #17

For election 2016 Control-Z Jun 2017 #71

Nov 9th? suston96 Jun 2017 #81

Says a lot about the Russians. I think. The Wielding Truth Jun 2017 #18

ACTION ALERT!! to protest highest level elections officials for nontransparent elections diva77 Jun 2017 #20

Amazing! stephensolomita Jun 2017 #33

Thank you for taking action! The difference btw stuffing ballot box v machines diva77 Jun 2017 #62

You're right, of course stephensolomita Jun 2017 #92

Only 40,000 votes switched and the Electoral college result is switched. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #24

would appreciate a more detailed explanation for my edification - thanks diva77 Jun 2017 #79

40,000 VOTERS. That's the difference between Trump and Clinton winning the electoral college. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #84

Thank you for this. Truth will out. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2017 #27

Suspicious as hell! 50 Shades Of Blue Jun 2017 #29

Pure coincidence. Seriously, I thought by last summer they were gonna hack it. It wasn't the Comey Amaryllis Jun 2017 #31

They stole it n/t malaise Jun 2017 #32

with expert help from 400-lb guys dalton99a Jun 2017 #86

That seems statistically unlikely bitterross Jun 2017 #34

Some details from a Washington Post story from Nov 11. Jim__ Jun 2017 #35

Most of the early evening Clinton was ahead in just about every swing state, some comfortably.... George II Jun 2017 #36

I knew -- pretty much knew anyway -- she had lost when the Kentucky votes came it early. Hoyt Jun 2017 #60

Have you read "Shattered"? Yupster Jun 2017 #77

I knew it was over by 9 PM Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #90

Sounds like you were getting about the same info that the campaign was getting Yupster Jun 2017 #100

Trump told you the election was to use his word, "RIGGED" bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #38

And as Trump has shown time and time again... kyburbonkid Jun 2017 #41

Is it possible he said that to throw us off? Pretty good tactic for a moron. flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #49

No doubt our govt is illegitimate. broadcaster90210 Jun 2017 #39

Strange Visits Too SayItLoud Jun 2017 #42

Well, now. Isn't that interesting? But what good does it do us? What DO we do when ... Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #43

There was an interesting article in the Palmer Report about it last November mnhtnbb Jun 2017 #44

"Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin.". That's not true. PoliticAverse Jun 2017 #45

Actually Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin were all less than 1%. Jim__ Jun 2017 #47

If I recall correctly, in each state the difference was smaller than the rzemanfl Jun 2017 #53

No doubt in my mind kyburbonkid Jun 2017 #50

I have said repeatedly, the math does not add up. I am a math person...it just doesn't add up. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #52

Did I miss a link to this news? FailureToCommunicate Jun 2017 #54

Suppose there was a way of stealing elections where the "signature" was an upset by a thin margin. Girard442 Jun 2017 #55

More Palmer Report junk. Hoyt Jun 2017 #59

Not to the Hillary campaign Yupster Jun 2017 #78

Florida 1.8%, Ohio was polled at 1% difference in early November (Trump won by 8%) mythology Jun 2017 #61

+1. You can't fight these beliefs with facts. Oh well. We can gripe about the 2016 election while we Hoyt Jun 2017 #68

Trump was the underdog in all 4 swing states standingtall Jun 2017 #63

By that logic, why bother stealing all four? onenote Jun 2017 #108

If they were going to steal everything they could steal standingtall Jun 2017 #109

So why bother with Wisconsin onenote Jun 2017 #110

Because they didn't not know how many faithless electors or standingtall Jun 2017 #112

Then why not add the four from New Hampshire or the ten from Minnesota? onenote Jun 2017 #114

Minnesota was not a swing state I don't care what the final margin was in that state on election standingtall Jun 2017 #115

yes, I seen that on Twitter...MikeFarb1 is doing research with other data collectors.... bresue Jun 2017 #64

Coincidences, especially that exact.... prairierose Jun 2017 #65

It wasn't that exact. LisaL Jun 2017 #73

And the margin varied in the swing states onenote Jun 2017 #93

Not NH Dem2 Jun 2017 #66

Sounds rational to me. Hoyt Jun 2017 #69

I'm shocked!!!!! blueinredohio Jun 2017 #67

I cilla4progress Jun 2017 #70

Imagine tiptonic Jun 2017 #72

Wow! Good work. Alice11111 Jun 2017 #74

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark! RestoreAmerica2020 Jun 2017 #83

I'm of the belief........ SergeStorms Jun 2017 #85

I vaguely remember some mention joet67 Jun 2017 #88

Very fishy, in fact it stinks. downeastdaniel Jun 2017 #94

Yes I am becoming more and more convinced jimlup Jun 2017 #95

yep cubbies01 Jun 2017 #101

That's what I've been saying all along. I will NEVER believe that 45* won MI. catbyte Jun 2017 #97

This percentage being so uniform definitely seems to indicate some sort of hack. Mrs. Overall Jun 2017 #98

Except, as has been stated here several times, the percentages weren't uniform onenote Jun 2017 #105

Thanks for the clarification. That's what I get for quickly skimming responses. : ) Mrs. Overall Jun 2017 #106

My two cents cubbies01 Jun 2017 #99

Nothing To See Here colsohlibgal Jun 2017 #102

The Elephant in the Room sagesnow Jun 2017 #103

The Detroit Free Press called Michigan for Hillary around 11PM adigal Jun 2017 #107

It's about election fraud and much more. annielion Jun 2017 #111

It's been happening in Wisconsin since the first Walker election. usaf-vet Jun 2017 #113

This thread is the DU version of Infowars hueymahl Jun 2017 #117

I think you're spouting conspiracy theories without evidence. brooklynite Jun 2017 #118

I'm shocked that the party insider doesn't want to rock the boat DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #121

I see..."Party Insiders" are hiding the fact that elections are being stolen from THEM. brooklynite Jun 2017 #125

I'm not a party insider. I don't think the machines are anywhere near our main problem. AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #139

K&R... spanone Jun 2017 #123

I found a Steve Schale election night tweet that I referred to earlier in the thread Awsi Dooger Jun 2017 #126

Let me guess! HenryWallace Jun 2017 #131