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38. She was a flawed candidate

Reply to EffieBlack (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 10:58 AM

Jun 2017

People seem all too willing to forget that.

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Hillary Clinton would be president right now if Obama had gone public in September or October [View all] jodymarie aimee Jun 2017 OP

This would be moot if so many white women had not voted for a pussy grabber. rzemanfl Jun 2017 #1

Romney got 54% of the white vote in 2012. ehrnst Jun 2017 #8

Romney did not say he could kick white men in the balls because he was famous. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2017 #9

So, again, why did Dems not gnash their teeth about losing the white vote in 2012? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2017 #12

You are deliberately not getting my point. Have a nice day. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2017 #13

If that makes you feel better... Have a nice day. n/t ehrnst Jun 2017 #29

Women who derive their identity and power from the men they align with ehrnst Jun 2017 #35

Your first two paragraphs make your position on this clearer and explain what I found rzemanfl Jun 2017 #47

Yes, it is horrific, which is why I moved away from the deep red midwest as an adult. ehrnst Jun 2017 #49

I am about to turn seventy and don't meet many young women. Age is its own form rzemanfl Jun 2017 #50

Young women are especially vulnerable to the need for male approval. ehrnst Jun 2017 #57

You know, I am 73. pangaia Jun 2017 #61

It wasn't just white women- Quanta Jun 2017 #65

Thank you for that. n/t rzemanfl Jun 2017 #66

Men put Trump in office. We both know that. You'll got to reach out to those that don't respect us bettyellen Jun 2017 #69

There were not enough men who voted to put Trump in office, the votes of 34,000 rzemanfl Jun 2017 #71

If he had, mcconnell was ready to call foul that the President was trying to sway the election. shraby Jun 2017 #2

Yes, exactly Zambero Jun 2017 #10

There are ways around that. We are too nice. A few well-timed and well-placed leaks would have... brush Jun 2017 #40

I doubt it very seriously. tazkcmo Jun 2017 #3

Hillary Clinton would be president right now if Republicans didn't cheat and steal elections. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #4

THIS! Why aren't more Dems/Liberals talking about voter suppression/voter purge tactics BlueCaliDem Jun 2017 #26

Nope Lotusflower70 Jun 2017 #5

Hear! Hear! n/t solara Jun 2017 #18

EXACTLY!! Thank you! eom BlueCaliDem Jun 2017 #27

You're welcome Lotusflower70 Jun 2017 #31

Yes let's blame this on Obama spanone Jun 2017 #6

So now you want to blame Obama ...and play into Trump's hands? Bad idea. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #7

I don't t blame Obama cilla4progress Jun 2017 #11

... BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #14

OP-Ed by Walter Shapiro, and he's only got 10 likes on Twitter for it. LOL. L. Coyote Jun 2017 #15

HRC would be President now is many so-called Dems had voted for her instead of 3rd party. tonyt53 Jun 2017 #16

I doubt the people who voted 3rd party were so-called DEMS. most people are registered independent. m-lekktor Jun 2017 #46

Maybe, maybe not DFW Jun 2017 #17

Let's assume that he even saw the election as 50/50 or even better for the Republicans, karynnj Jun 2017 #25

Nonsense. Everybody knew that Russia was interfering in the election! Orangepeel Jun 2017 #19

EXACTLY EffieBlack Jun 2017 #37

A candidate saying something is not the same as a president making an official announcement delisen Jun 2017 #64

That is wishful thinking. Nt SweetieD Jun 2017 #20

Disagree..half the population didn't care enough to vote.. HipChick Jun 2017 #21

We will never know. Move on, sensless to dwell on this point. Kleveland Jun 2017 #22

Everybody thought there was no way Trump would be elected and this includes octoberlib Jun 2017 #23

You never really know what would have happened had you taken the other path karynnj Jun 2017 #24

Oh great - now it's Obama's fault. ciaobaby Jun 2017 #28

You're kidding, right? Squinch Jun 2017 #36

Oh great.. let's blame the Russians hacking and flipping votes, Cha Jun 2017 #59

Comey would still have had the last word... lame54 Jun 2017 #30

Obama - or Lynch - should have fired Comey's ass! yallerdawg Jun 2017 #43

More ODS. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #32

No-she likely would have lost anyway EffieBlack Jun 2017 #33

She was a flawed candidate BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #38

Just HER bad luck to run against a perfect candidate. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #41

90% of her "flaws" are total repuke-created bullshit Skittles Jun 2017 #67

yup. like that loretta lynch tarmac thing JI7 Jun 2017 #60

You're right. ElementaryPenguin Jun 2017 #34

If it were a Republican President in office would he/she have made the cyber attack public? jalan48 Jun 2017 #39

Hillary would have lost by more Takket Jun 2017 #42

But after December when Obama SAID the Russians interfered... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #44

NOPE. Putin would just have modified his active measures to adapt to conditions. yodermon Jun 2017 #45

Or Dem voters just could have shown up in equivalent numbers... Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #48

This list is getting a little unwieldy n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #51

I'm getting kind of pissed that O is getting so much blame for this. He was damned if he did, Vinca Jun 2017 #52

No. Starry Messenger Jun 2017 #53

It's so obvious! Obama wanted tRump to win because he (Obama) would then look stopbush Jun 2017 #54

We get screwe for being better people Tiggeroshii Jun 2017 #55

The election was stolen, the GOP must vacate the white house and then I want Eliot Rosewater Jun 2017 #56

You have a lot of faith in the media JI7 Jun 2017 #58

The damage was done: the Bernie-or-bust crows voted for Trump or Ilsa Jun 2017 #62

Ah, more Blame Obama boilerplate. Aristus Jun 2017 #63

Not true oberliner Jun 2017 #68

We got Trump because the president was afraid of a turtle looking wacko from Kentucky LittleBlue Jun 2017 #70

I agree rockfordfile Jun 2017 #72