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47. Most people get insurance through their employer

Reply to alarimer (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 28, 2017, 04:32 PM

Jun 2017

That would probably need to 'collapse' first

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We can't even get our party behind a single payer system [View all] SHRED Jun 2017 OP

That is at least partially because.... Adrahil Jun 2017 #1

That is why California is a good place to start SHRED Jun 2017 #4

Don't disagree.... Adrahil Jun 2017 #9

Hard to do... SHRED Jun 2017 #11

Even harder since state legislatures have limited abilities to affect Medicare. nt stevenleser Jun 2017 #49

It's about the money zipplewrath Jun 2017 #2

You hit the nail on the head. It isn't as simple as waving a magic wand. tonyt53 Jun 2017 #5

Not at the state level zipplewrath Jun 2017 #6

Too bad voters aren't willing to pay comradebillyboy Jun 2017 #3

Oh, they would/will zipplewrath Jun 2017 #7

I'm going to suggest that Warren will be a far better advocate for SP than Sanders was... brooklynite Jun 2017 #21

SHRED please research before posting things like that in the future because if cstanleytech Jun 2017 #8

And shelving this bill does what? SHRED Jun 2017 #10

It gives them time to work on it and fix the problems unless you think rushing through things like cstanleytech Jun 2017 #12

So a "shelved" bill will be worked on? SHRED Jun 2017 #13

Only that incarnation of it. cstanleytech Jun 2017 #19

Some people would rather throw up stuff rather than painfully think through and resolve each major Blue_true Jun 2017 #39

+1000, and that's exactly what happened here. It was an incomplete bill and forced R B Garr Jun 2017 #41

That is exactly right RB. Pushing a bill through with out dealing with issues such a financing, still_one Jun 2017 #52

This would be an enormous accomplishment for a state. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #14

If California had universal health care... yallerdawg Jun 2017 #15

The same thing that keeps people from moving to Canada? NobodyHere Jun 2017 #17

When I move to California, I'm still a US citizen. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #22

You can't just move to Canada SHRED Jun 2017 #26

Employment. Housing. Family. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #24

51,000,000 uninsured in 2026? yallerdawg Jun 2017 #27

I don't see the issue. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #33

It WILL be the homeless, jobless and disabled. yallerdawg Jun 2017 #37

Homeless, jobless, with the possibility of insurance is not an opportunity... NCTraveler Jun 2017 #38

Same thing that keeps a lot of people out of CA now: HeartachesNhangovers Jun 2017 #31

housing costs JI7 Jun 2017 #44

Please - it wasn't killed. It was put on hold. A lot of the funding was dependent on Medicaid... haele Jun 2017 #16

What's needed is facts and a plan. rogue emissary Jun 2017 #18

There is no way to fund it . Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #20

WRONG! CA Assemblyman Speaker Rendon counters Bernie Sanders/fans with ACTUAL FACTS: R B Garr Jun 2017 #23

Thank you! Facts matter people. Stop bashing Dems. bettyellen Jun 2017 #30

I rather have a public option. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2017 #25

Yes, it seems Dems are against (or at least not for) single payer healthcare... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #28

bwahahaha, yes, Wall Street stopped this bill in California.... R B Garr Jun 2017 #32

Reading comprehension.... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #34

Your post is not about single payer actually working. R B Garr Jun 2017 #36

++++++++ JHan Jun 2017 #45

That is exactly why single payer failed in Vermont, because when it reached the Governor's office still_one Jun 2017 #53

Democrats are not against single payer...I think it would be great. But it won't work Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #42

'Taxes' is not a valid argument against single payer... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #46

Many if not most Americans disagree with you NobodyHere Jul 2017 #60

From the Greek... Binkie The Clown Jun 2017 #29

It won't happen until our current system completely collapses. alarimer Jun 2017 #35

I a so sick of this sort of talk...do you have any idea how many would die if this were to happen. Demsrule86 Jun 2017 #43

The failure of the system as it exists now is INEVITABLE. alarimer Jun 2017 #56

No is not...Switzerland has insurance companies...and it won't fail. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #59

Most people get insurance through their employer leftstreet Jun 2017 #47

Yes, for years they've shifted costs to us. alarimer Jun 2017 #57

I think we need to save the ACA first Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2017 #40

California could have set a course that G_j Jun 2017 #48

A Democrat pointed out that the bill was not ready to sign because it didn't R B Garr Jun 2017 #50

Not just CA, but it couldn't be done in the home of the loudest and most vociferous spokesman for... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2017 #51

It isn't dead in California, it is on hold. They have to see how much federal funding will be still_one Jun 2017 #54

We can get to universal care with a Medicare expansion without single payer La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Kathy M Jun 2017 #58