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athena

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20. Does the U.S. system "allow everyone to be treated in a timely manner"?
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jun 2017

Answer: no, it doesn't. Not only do millions of people have no insurance, but millions of others have insurance that doesn't cover very much. Even those who, like myself, have excellent insurance, are regularly forced to wait upwards of three months to see a specialist for a 10-minute initial appointment. And hospitals and doctor's offices frequently make billing mistakes that increase our total out-of-pocket cost. I've spent hours calling hospitals and being put on hold, just to explain to them that I had already sent in a check that they had cashed but neglected to record in their system. After my last surgery, I spent hours, during my recovery period when I was still weak and in pain, arguing with my doctor's office because they submitted an incorrect claim to my insurance company and then tried to claim my insurance company refused to cover the procedure. The amount they charged me was more than three times what my insurance ended up paying, when, after many phone calls and e-mails, I finally managed to sort it all out. I dread going to the doctor here, and I have excellent insurance thanks to my husband's job. Consider yourself lucky to live in a country that views health care as a human right.

Note that those who don't have insurance often end up going bankrupt when they need emergency care. Tens of thousands of people die from preventable diseases like pneumonia because they lack health insurance. No one in Canada dies from a preventable disease. The only time you have to wait in Canada is when you have something that doesn't require immediate treatment. I know this because I lived in Canada for many years.

Finally, Canadians who travel to the U.S. for medical care usually do so not because of waiting times but because the specific service they need is more readily available in the U.S. than in Canada. When that is the case, Canada pays for it.

By the way, it is against DU rules to post articles from right-wing sources. "It came up in a Google search" is not a good-enough excuse.

I don't see anything about their economic status. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #1
I don't see anything about WINTERING in the U.S. Hortensis Jun 2017 #33
+1 NCTraveler Jun 2017 #34
:) Amazing how often mentally clicking "how's geography Hortensis Jun 2017 #38
Agreed the summary sucks - there is a link to the complete report on the summary report rufus dog Jun 2017 #41
I read it as well. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #42
just got through it rufus dog Jun 2017 #43
How many Americans sought treatment outside the country? greymattermom Jun 2017 #2
I don't know about Americans, but the rest is in the report if you'd read it. n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #3
Here is the report. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #6
1,400,000 last year. W_HAMILTON Jun 2017 #8
Yes, that's more than twice the number per capita than Canada (0.43% US vs. 0.18% Canada) George II Jun 2017 #28
And how many got sick while outside Canada? The biggest group visited Otolaryngologists.... George II Jun 2017 #17
Nose jobs marybourg Jun 2017 #23
It looks like they came up with a POSSIBLE number of people... NCTraveler Jun 2017 #4
Precisely- I'll bet many of those treated outside of Canada got sick while traveling. George II Jun 2017 #18
Long waits to see a specialist is not unique to Canada csziggy Jun 2017 #5
My breast cancer was diagnosed December 20, 2013. phylny Jun 2017 #14
I agree. The way to see a specialist fast in the US.. WePurrsevere Jun 2017 #32
what is the point of this post? Demonaut Jun 2017 #7
The purpose, of course, is to support the right-wing argument that Canada's single payer DanTex Jun 2017 #10
+1 BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Jun 2017 #12
I googled how many Canadians left for medical procedures OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #15
Does the U.S. system "allow everyone to be treated in a timely manner"? athena Jun 2017 #20
Payment outside of Canada only with approval OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #22
So you admit that your OP contains a falsehood. athena Jun 2017 #27
It's a shame you deny the same skepticism LanternWaste Jun 2017 #21
The New York Times has described the (Fraser) Institute as libertarian[12] and conservative.[2] Jim__ Jun 2017 #9
After reading this, I'm scared to have single payer healthcare!!!!! Greybnk48 Jun 2017 #11
Fraser Institute peggysue2 Jun 2017 #13
So? Canada is a country of 36 million people, so that's less than 0.2%. Are those people... George II Jun 2017 #16
Cataract surgery in BC OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #19
pondering some dental work to be done in mexico cause i sure as hell can not afford it here dembotoz Jun 2017 #24
Yah, I have to get some bridgework done OnlinePoker Jun 2017 #36
Cool story. America's system still sucks though. BannonsLiver Jun 2017 #25
The Fraser Inst.... OneBlueDotBama Jun 2017 #29
Health Canada pays for the care and travel expenses of Quebec and New Brunswick residents jpak Jun 2017 #30
Better than 22M without insurance at all Bayard Jun 2017 #31
Your post was very educational. Kingofalldems Jun 2017 #35
The Fraser Institute TubbersUK Jun 2017 #37
BC has a small problem. And it does no one any good to ignore it. EllieBC Jun 2017 #39
Thanks rufus dog Jun 2017 #40
Worthless information - Fraser Institute is a conservative and libertarian think tank SharonClark Jun 2017 #44
"Across Canada, otolaryngologists reported the highest proportion of patients" flotsam Jun 2017 #45
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