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56. That list is not magical contrary to what the OP claims:

Thu Jun 29, 2017, 04:06 PM

Jun 2017

“The list is not just some magical vehicle that anyone can tap into,” explains Robin Curran of the firm Revolution Messaging. “It was directly tied to the message Bernie carried on the campaign, and without that message, we would not have had the fundraising success that we did.”

I've been a registered member of the Democratic Party for 40 years and I've gotten more than my fair share of those types of letters. For every one person that feels that Bernie's list is magical there are 20 others who will donate because the recipient is the party's nominee or a primary candidate who looks promising. It may feed Bernie's ego to believe that list is gold, but that is just ego. I get hundreds of emails and fundraising letters during the campaign season and I donate to those I wish to in the primaries and I support the party's nominee afterwards, with an emphasis on "the Party".

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Bernie Sanders Team Explains Why He Wont Hand Over His Donor List [View all] still_one Jun 2017 OP

Translation: Bernie's seriously considering a run in 2020 emulatorloo Jun 2017 #1

That should NOT stop him from giving the list to the DNC, unless of course he doesn't want to still_one Jun 2017 #7

Hillary didnt turn over her list after her 1st run either Arazi Jun 2017 #13

Then why give such a convoluted explanation, which is no explanation? Just say no comment still_one Jun 2017 #17

CYA emulatorloo Jun 2017 #18

They did clearly answer the question mythology Jun 2017 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author pnwmom Jul 2017 #109

Hillary DID share her list. She accepted the SOS position, remember? pnwmom Jul 2017 #110

This. Jakes Progress Jun 2017 #59

I hope he doesn't expect to run as a Democrat. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #102

Rather Bernie run as 3rd party? Reiyuki Jul 2017 #106

It's his personal source of new found power. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #2

Perhaps there are some contributors who won't mind giving their names to the DNC? nikibatts Jun 2017 #51

Overall, they are about the individual, not the collective. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2017 #66

I particularly like "Hammer of Thor" Hekate Jun 2017 #53

The article lacks specificity but the explanation you seek has always been clear to me. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #3

As I said above, that should not stop him from giving the list to the Democratic party, unless still_one Jun 2017 #9

You are correct with regard to both observations. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #14

or maybe throw support to someone.....Warren please OhNo-Really Jun 2017 #42

I doubt it. I just don't see anything like that happening. It seems highly unlikely to me. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #60

Such a team player. Eom pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #4

Because he's not really a Democrat... Wounded Bear Jun 2017 #5

It's just a carrot he can dangle over the party Blue_Tires Jun 2017 #6

Keep the damn list and I wish the DNC would stop begging for it. It is time to step out mfcorey1 Jun 2017 #8

Sanders didn't have that much support in 2016. pirateshipdude Jun 2017 #11

He is SUPER BERNIE! Only he and yes only HE can pull the cold hard cash out of their wallets! snooper2 Jun 2017 #10

Like most everyone says, "He's not a democrat" Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #12

The great majority here at DU like and/or support Bernie. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #19

Due Respect But I Don't Think That's True Me. Jun 2017 #28

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #30

Agreed 100% Arazi Jun 2017 #35

No, but the list was built while he was running on the Democratic ticket. LisaM Jun 2017 #26

Hillary could have used that donor list. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #52

Sen. Sanders can keep his email list as far as I a concerned. He can run again in 20 Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #103

The answer is in the quotes in the original post dragonlady Jun 2017 #15

That list is not magical contrary to what the OP claims: politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2017 #56

Why would subject his supporters to more fucking spam? killbotfactory Jun 2017 #16

DCCC's job is to take back the House. Is that so terrible? emulatorloo Jun 2017 #20

If you make people regret donating to you, yes it is. nt killbotfactory Jun 2017 #21

My attitude is to give em a break. No skin off my ass if they email me emulatorloo Jun 2017 #22

Exactly. You can also mark it as spam if you don't want to see it, and it will be sent directly still_one Jun 2017 #23

They send emails that have headlines that mimic spam ads that give you malware killbotfactory Jun 2017 #61

Sanders is not a part of the Democrat party and may run as an indie Gothmog Jun 2017 #24

lol, this is so typical of his hypocritical drama. R B Garr Jun 2017 #25

Not So. ciaobaby Jun 2017 #31

Because he's not a Democrat and is not interested in helping the Democratic party. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #27

Yet the Dems can't win without him and his supporters and they know it. ciaobaby Jun 2017 #32

Lol. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #33

One thing I am sure of, a lot of his supporters are Democrats, and if he decides to still_one Jun 2017 #34

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #101

That goes two ways. The Democratic Party is Cha Jun 2017 #79

I think that may be overestimating the appeal. ehrnst Jul 2017 #100

Obama held onto his list until 2015 progressoid Jun 2017 #64

Nah, I'm guessing his reasons were probably different. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2017 #71

Sure. He probably needed it for his run for a third term. progressoid Jun 2017 #74

My Guess... Me. Jun 2017 #29

If he had won the nomination he would have received the DNC and Hillary's donor list. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #36

Nope. Hillary didn't give Obama her list in 2008 Arazi Jun 2017 #62

That would describe Hillary. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #63

Like Obama did. progressoid Jun 2017 #65

So that justifies this? hrmjustin Jun 2017 #69

Wait, were the Democrats trying to re-take the White House after Obama won? NurseJackie Jun 2017 #78

The Clinton Campaign cared. progressoid Jun 2017 #91

LOL NurseJackie Jun 2017 #97

YOU are thinking in a very rational and unselfish way. NurseJackie Jun 2017 #75

He was in repeated trouble with the FEC pandr32 Jun 2017 #37

Can you prove what you posted with a link? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #38

I doubt you need a link, because it's common knowledge. R B Garr Jun 2017 #39

That's why it is very difficult here at times... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #43

Your own comment "this should be interesting....." is inflammatory. R B Garr Jun 2017 #72

Go look at the FEC reports. The $27 was a marketing ploy. When someone donates 2000.00 seaglass Jun 2017 #44

Thank you very much - I'll look at that right now. Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #45

Yes, there were contributions from donors with foreign addresses along with donors seaglass Jun 2017 #48

Just some preliminary thoughts: Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #58

So many links pandr32 Jun 2017 #54

Opinion pieces are just that... next? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #67

Is 1/1/2015 the best date to use for this search? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #46

The coverage dates from the link was 4/2015-12/2016. I believe he announced in 4/2015. n/t seaglass Jun 2017 #49

If you click on the donor's name it shows the total they gave. n/t seaglass Jun 2017 #50

There are many, many links out there. Here's a few. pnwmom Jun 2017 #70

OK, first the $27 was the mathematical average from all contributions... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #68

And he achieved this by so many people giving MULTIPLE small donations, often on the same DAY. pnwmom Jun 2017 #73

So what...? Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #81

Sure you can. You can receive a thousand dollar check and call the donor back pnwmom Jun 2017 #84

Well! No surprise here! You are indeed well familiar with this subject matter. R B Garr Jun 2017 #76

The $27 contribution claim was a catchy pitch pandr32 Jun 2017 #87

Just for comparison, check this out: Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #89

Nice try, but Sanders' boasted about not using PACs and lambasted others for R B Garr Jun 2017 #90

Yes, it is the hypocrisy... just not Sanders' Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #92

Wrong. When you hold yourself out as a moral authority and accuse others R B Garr Jun 2017 #93

Well,... Trial_By_Fire Jun 2017 #94

It will be case closed when he holds himself to the same standards he R B Garr Jun 2017 #95

pretty routine not to turn over the list. give names? yes introductions? yes turn over the list? no dembotoz Jun 2017 #40

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #47

Translation: "We used you, and if you want our precious list, you'll let us do it again" nt Maven Jun 2017 #55

Bernie's continuing lecture series on the direction of the Dem Party is more oasis Jun 2017 #57

It means that the people on the list won't donate to candidates who are also MiltonBrown Jun 2017 #77

So, while being attacked, he's asked for his donor list? left-of-center2012 Jun 2017 #80

Links to DNC co-chairs Ellison and Perez attacking Bernie. Or any one working under Perez/Ellison emulatorloo Jun 2017 #82

I presume it is because the DNC would have no effective rhetoric for Bernie's left-liberals. RadiationTherapy Jun 2017 #83

Ellison's left-liberal and co-chairs the DNC. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #85

I don't see what that has to do with DNC rhetoric and the ideologies of people on Bernie's list. RadiationTherapy Jun 2017 #86

Ellison and Perez are both left-liberals. They generate the rhetoric of today's DNC. emulatorloo Jun 2017 #88

Well, as a communication scholar, I presume most talk to be PR and, to some extent, RadiationTherapy Jun 2017 #98

Interesting emulatorloo Jun 2017 #99

Ellison is deputy chair - not co-chair aikoaiko Jul 2017 #105

Post removed Post removed Jun 2017 #96

I'm on that list and I am glad that the list won't be shared with third parties. redgreenandblue Jul 2017 #104

Forget Bernie and his supporters who won't vote for the nominee if it's not their guy. Lil Missy Jul 2017 #107

It's as simple as this. retrowire Jul 2017 #108

If that is the case then his objective to run as a Democrat wasn't to make the Democratic party still_one Jul 2017 #111

Here's my problem with that reasoning. retrowire Jul 2017 #112