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certainot

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21. because democrats ignore rw radio and they continued the "hanging chad" success
Sat Jul 1, 2017, 05:39 PM
Jul 2017

in about 40 states where republican radio dominates messaging, and they sold that democrats were stealing votes and electronic machines were safer and cheaper and faster.

and then they used those radio stations to use the immigration issue to suggest voter fraud (now that's up to millions of illegal aliens voting for dems because dems and obama gave them drivers licenses) and that's how they passed suppression legislation all over and still are, because democrats still ignore rw radio.

and because democrats still ignore rw radio, r-cons will be able to beat back any attempt to get any real election reform.

even if dems come up with something with unassailable logic behind it they will just have to point out that the people in charge are related to democrats, it will cost more than an aircraft carrier, all we need to do is retrofit with some new super secure electronic russian chips instead, and make it impossible for any republicans to vote for it.

we'd have paper ballots in months if those 1000 radio stations were screaming for it instead of against it.

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Never understood why we stopped in the first place. Laffy Kat Jul 2017 #1
Because the Reeps got in power .. ananda Jul 2017 #16
Exactly. Amaryllis Jul 2017 #19
Yep. HAVA was a scam. nt Susan Calvin Jul 2017 #37
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #60
because democrats ignore rw radio and they continued the "hanging chad" success certainot Jul 2017 #21
Really simple. SCVDem Jul 2017 #33
Yup. If they won't even look at them in the states they are sure were hacked into, we don't want to shraby Jul 2017 #2
There is a reason most EU countries don't allow electronic voting dalton99a Jul 2017 #3
Long past time Hekate Jul 2017 #4
When I was a kid, I watched my parents vote on a giant mechanical machine unblock Jul 2017 #5
My first vote cast for President Carter was on one of those machines. That's were the Purveyor Jul 2017 #10
Read an article about how the lever machines were rigged in the early years. Jim Beard Jul 2017 #36
I think if we could get a powerful group like League of Women Voters and AARP to start making noise. CurtEastPoint Jul 2017 #6
Thanks Kurt saidsimplesimon Jul 2017 #15
wash state has them.. we mail them in as well. no polling places... samnsara Jul 2017 #7
This system should go nationwide but it is up to the individual States to set their own Purveyor Jul 2017 #11
Oregon too. It rocks. R's hate it because it makes it MUCH easier for people to vote. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #44
Oregon ballots are counted electronically. former9thward Jul 2017 #58
Actually I did. They also verify signatures, and in case of audit there's a paper trail. flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #66
It is clearly time for a change of direction. UCmeNdc Jul 2017 #8
Yes absolutely FakeNoose Jul 2017 #9
We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited" JoeOtterbein Jul 2017 #12
Screw the MSM, each one trying to be the first to call the elections. oasis Jul 2017 #13
We could have paper ballots with preliminary results from optical scans csziggy Jul 2017 #22
Excellent point(s). oasis Jul 2017 #57
And hand-counting . . . OldRedneck Jul 2017 #34
For how ever long it takes. nt oasis Jul 2017 #59
+1 TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #54
Electronic Machines are saidsimplesimon Jul 2017 #14
Yes! If California leads the way other states will quickly follow. McCamy Taylor Jul 2017 #17
not in my precinct bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #41
Machines are not the problem it is the lack of voters. CK_John Jul 2017 #18
The lack of voters may be partially a result of unreliable voting machines csziggy Jul 2017 #23
It's BEEN time, for YEARS, but elleng Jul 2017 #20
Yes, Yes, Yes blue-wave Jul 2017 #24
No no no Egnever Jul 2017 #31
They would then move on to some other conspiracy theory mythology Jul 2017 #47
Paper Ballots Campaign Lonestarblue Jul 2017 #25
No just no Egnever Jul 2017 #29
Do you even know how your state counts votes? OldRedneck Jul 2017 #32
Yes, I do. Lonestarblue Jul 2017 #46
My county used paper ballots that are scanned and stored. Blue_true Jul 2017 #26
I vote is not valid unless it can be recounted. A paper ballot would assure it could be recounted. The Wielding Truth Jul 2017 #27
Fuck that Egnever Jul 2017 #28
How will we count paper ballots? OldRedneck Jul 2017 #30
Thank you! Egnever Jul 2017 #35
Paper receipt + digital count Nasruddin Jul 2017 #38
paper receipts are worthless. they will never see the light of day 99.999% of the time. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #40
The only time they would be needed is if there is some suspicion of vote fraud. Egnever Jul 2017 #53
"suspicion" doesn't get you a state-wide hand/eye recount, does it? explain how you would obtain a TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #61
No basis in fact? Egnever Jul 2017 #64
Are the votes tallied at each precinct? retread Jul 2017 #45
absolutely. all paper ballots, all hand counted. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #39
Repulsives tiptonic Jul 2017 #42
Need to find a place to lay a bet. THE bet. boat-tail Jul 2017 #43
I agree. But you do understand that states run elections and we have no power to Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #48
The electronic voting machine experiment was an epic fail. Initech Jul 2017 #49
would it be possible to do something like thinkingagain Jul 2017 #50
Paper ballots are verifiable liberal N proud Jul 2017 #51
Or you can have machines like we do in Nevada Egnever Jul 2017 #52
Had those in Ohio liberal N proud Jul 2017 #55
not here Egnever Jul 2017 #56
how can you prove that the "official" result accurately reflects the paper receipts? you can't, beca TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #62
Sounds pretty easy to fix Egnever Jul 2017 #63
i'm guessing a good hacker could easily deal with the audit function; there has to be some code that TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #67
+1000! colsohlibgal Jul 2017 #65
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