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67. the only way it would "pass legal muster" is if the supreme court agreed

Sat Jul 1, 2017, 09:40 PM

Jul 2017

that's extraordinarily unlikely to happen.
first, it would require at least one of the partisan republicans to agree and
second, it would require the majority to completely fabricate a rationale that has zero basis in the constitution or law.
sure, it seems like a good idea to invalidate and re-do a fraudulent election, but it's also a bad idea to make up laws out of nothing.

other than that, there are only two legal ways i see to get hillary in the white house (other than her winning in 2020, which is unlikely as she's said she won't run).

1) amend the constitution to declare the election invalid and create a legal remedy that permits hillary to become president
or
2) impeach and remove presidents and vice-presidents as necessary until one of the presidents agrees to appoint hillary as the vice-president, have that president resign or be impeached and removed.

any of these methods requires remarkably improbable help from highly partisan republicans.

ain't gonna happen.

the best remedy is for america to take out its anger and frustration against republicans in 2018 and 2020.

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Just spit balling but what can we do to put Hillary into her rightful place that is the White House? [View all] Botany Jul 2017 OP

Let go of it...it's over. Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #1

+100000000000 Hoyt Jul 2017 #64

+ 1Bazillion Kilgore Jul 2017 #74

and why do you think 2018 will have fair elections? delisen Jul 2017 #91

RIGHT ON. Bohunk68 Jul 2017 #98

So work on that... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #117

What Constitutional Crisis? I see a political crisis with delisen Jul 2017 #119

Nothing, without trashing the Constitution ourselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2

One way is to have them name the successor we want. delisen Jul 2017 #93

Yes, it does. The succession is in the Constitution, 25th Amendment. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #115

I did not suggest force of course. People can take office and resign for example delisen Jul 2017 #118

Unless the Constitution changes, nothing. MineralMan Jul 2017 #3

Then it should be changed. These injustices must stop lunamagica Jul 2017 #33

Do you know how the Constitution gets changed? MineralMan Jul 2017 #35

I will admit I have no idea. But then again, I'm just a regular, average person with an average mind lunamagica Jul 2017 #39

Well, see, there you go. MineralMan Jul 2017 #41

Thank you Kilgore Jul 2017 #109

Can you guarantee us fair elections in 2018 if we work hard to get out the vote? delisen Jul 2017 #94

No, I can't, but I can sure guarantee you a loss if you don't. MineralMan Jul 2017 #106

I say it should be a goal. Whether we get there or not is not the point. boston bean Jul 2017 #4

Hillary runs for congress from New York Yupster Jul 2017 #6

I like the cut of your jib. Botany Jul 2017 #7

There is no constitutional remedy. Once the electoral college votes and it is certified in Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #11

but there is. If trump and pence have to go, if we push it and do it right, they could name Hillary boston bean Jul 2017 #45

It will never happen...who is going to name Hillary VP and why would they resign? Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #47

why did nixon resign?? boston bean Jul 2017 #48

I think Trump will resign. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #62

I'm open to everyone in the country being given a million dollars onenote Jul 2017 #65

We clearly have the right to petition and the petition can. delisen Jul 2017 #95

YES! lunamagica Jul 2017 #34

"It's that easy"?? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #43

Right. If you want to guarantee pence is not removed from office onenote Jul 2017 #69

The republiCONs woul explode! rock Jul 2017 #44

That'd work if we could survive two years of these clowns. I don't think we can. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #54

That's fun to contemplate DesertRat Jul 2017 #82

They're never going to nullify the election FakeNoose Jul 2017 #5

You can't shut down the internet, that's insane. Kentonio Jul 2017 #101

If that's true then we're not smart enough FakeNoose Jul 2017 #114

You know, from a different angle. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #8

It is not possible. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #9

She could take a public tour FBaggins Jul 2017 #10

You just blew that plan by informing the world with your post. oasis Jul 2017 #100

Nothing...our Constitution doesn't support "do overs". brooklynite Jul 2017 #12

We do not get end run by espionage. The Mechanism is "WE THE PEOPLE" nt LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #13

I think it was you but do you still have the voting data from Winston County, N.C.? Botany Jul 2017 #14

I am pretty sure it wasn't me, but Mike Farb has a clearing house LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #16

Get her to run in 2020 then vote for her. longship Jul 2017 #15

How come we have to follow the letter of the law as per the US Constitution now ..... Botany Jul 2017 #18

Because it makes this country worth defending. longship Jul 2017 #20

I had to read that twice. ⚠ procon Jul 2017 #26

That wasn't unconstitutional Bradical79 Jul 2017 #58

Yes. we have to follow the spirit of the Constitution. delisen Jul 2017 #92

McConnell refused to perform the "advise" part of the Constitution in delisen Jul 2017 #99

The right to petition doesn't require a response onenote Jul 2017 #112

I would not wish it on her loyalsister Jul 2017 #17

There may be a Constutional remedy but it will require cooperation... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #19

You forgot step 0. Rip up and throw away the US Constitution. longship Jul 2017 #21

To invalidate the Elector's vote would not be 'ad hoc laws'. Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #23

Too late, the election was certified by the sole constitutional method. longship Jul 2017 #24

Are you saying that Americans would just have to accept that our 'president' and... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #27

Yup. That's what the constitution says. longship Jul 2017 #30

Well, luckily, this is just your opinion... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #37

No, our government is run by laws, mainly the US Constitution. longship Jul 2017 #42

Believe me if it proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, it will not stand that russian runs our govt. boston bean Jul 2017 #50

That;s what I think too... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #52

Of course it would pass legal muster but it has zero onenote Jul 2017 #60

the only way it would "pass legal muster" is if the supreme court agreed unblock Jul 2017 #67

What is impossible is making clinton Speaker... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #68

There is still zero evidence any votes were changed or that some wide swath was prevented mythology Jul 2017 #22

Not to mention, Comey might not have spoken in June karynnj Jul 2017 #28

There is evidence and then you see how elections officials prevent any correction diva77 Jul 2017 #80

There is no constitutional way to do that. karynnj Jul 2017 #25

The irony of the whole Bush v Gore legal situation jontheactor Jul 2017 #87

Get her in Congress (yes, a Congressional seat). Tatiana Jul 2017 #29

If we're going to ignore reality onenote Jul 2017 #38

I think it's over and we need to move on. Tatiana Jul 2017 #40

That is truly ingenious! Serious hat tip! - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #55

It's also delusional. onenote Jul 2017 #57

I must admit I keep thinking about it...but in reality, I don't think anything will be lunamagica Jul 2017 #31

Short answer: nothing Warpy Jul 2017 #32

DU needs to face reality: Sanders & Clinton both lost. Nevernose Jul 2017 #36

You need to make this an OP leftstreet Jul 2017 #49

Waste of time... Raine Jul 2017 #46

We move forward XRubicon Jul 2017 #51

Not going to happen. The election was lost. applegrove Jul 2017 #53

Nothing beyond running again, and winning this time Bradical79 Jul 2017 #56

No. Agschmid Jul 2017 #59

She can run in 2020 tazkcmo Jul 2017 #61

She can, but I doubt she will - and I hope she doesn't. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #71

Nada, now. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #63

Find one adult that did not vote and teach them how to vote early Not Ruth Jul 2017 #66

For several reasons, lapucelle Jul 2017 #70

Anyone still suggesting this TDale313 Jul 2017 #72

Priority #1 right now is getting Trump out. Golden Raisin Jul 2017 #73

depends if the military is willing to overthrow the government Takket Jul 2017 #75

Nothing Loki Liesmith Jul 2017 #76

After Bush v. Gore and the Vote Count Was Stopped, We Were Told to "Get Over It" dlk Jul 2017 #77

You are on the right track. The opposition will say nothing can be done delisen Jul 2017 #97

Over, done iamateacher Jul 2017 #78

Crank up the way-back machine elocs Jul 2017 #79

There is a way but it would be political suicide on a nuclear scale. TXCritter Jul 2017 #81

You skipped a step:2/3 vote in Senate to convict onenote Jul 2017 #89

Whoops! Good point. TXCritter Jul 2017 #107

Nothing. Bro, do you even Constitution? WoonTars Jul 2017 #83

A democratic controlled House can nominate her Speaker Volaris Jul 2017 #84

The republicans in the senate would never ever vote onenote Jul 2017 #88

To me anyway, it's a forgone conclusion that if there's Democratic control of the House Volaris Jul 2017 #90

It's 2/3 of Senators to remove from the President forthemiddle Jul 2017 #104

The soonest that can happen is after 2020. Ace Rothstein Jul 2017 #116

I can't say "Never." Politics is deal making. delisen Jul 2017 #96

True. But in what universe would any republican accept a deal onenote Jul 2017 #113

Nothing can be done about this now. potone Jul 2017 #85

Enlist the aid of a TimeLord DBoon Jul 2017 #86

Nothing in the Constitution makes provision for this prospect. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #102

Only way to do it: OliverQ Jul 2017 #103

It could happen... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #105

Where would sixty seven votes to convict come from? onenote Jul 2017 #110

Agree... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #111

Elect her in 2020. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #108