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TXCritter

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81. There is a way but it would be political suicide on a nuclear scale.

Sat Jul 1, 2017, 11:30 PM

Jul 2017

Step 1: Reclaim the House. So, it can not happen before 2019.

Step 2: Impeach Trump AND Pence together. Would require a strong case.

Now, having impeached both, Step 3: the Speaker of the House (Now a Dem from step 1) becomes President.

Step 4: New Dem President appoints Hillary Clinton VP

Step 5: New Dem President resigns, making HC President of the United States. By this point it might be mid-late 2019.

The country wouldn't tolerate this. Marginal Clinton supporters would abandon her instantly and the party as a whole would become toxic for such a stunt.

So, while such a series of events is theoretically possible, it would be unwise, unlikely and HC herself knows history well enough to refuse to take that path.

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Just spit balling but what can we do to put Hillary into her rightful place that is the White House? [View all] Botany Jul 2017 OP

Let go of it...it's over. Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #1

+100000000000 Hoyt Jul 2017 #64

+ 1Bazillion Kilgore Jul 2017 #74

and why do you think 2018 will have fair elections? delisen Jul 2017 #91

RIGHT ON. Bohunk68 Jul 2017 #98

So work on that... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #117

What Constitutional Crisis? I see a political crisis with delisen Jul 2017 #119

Nothing, without trashing the Constitution ourselves. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #2

One way is to have them name the successor we want. delisen Jul 2017 #93

Yes, it does. The succession is in the Constitution, 25th Amendment. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #115

I did not suggest force of course. People can take office and resign for example delisen Jul 2017 #118

Unless the Constitution changes, nothing. MineralMan Jul 2017 #3

Then it should be changed. These injustices must stop lunamagica Jul 2017 #33

Do you know how the Constitution gets changed? MineralMan Jul 2017 #35

I will admit I have no idea. But then again, I'm just a regular, average person with an average mind lunamagica Jul 2017 #39

Well, see, there you go. MineralMan Jul 2017 #41

Thank you Kilgore Jul 2017 #109

Can you guarantee us fair elections in 2018 if we work hard to get out the vote? delisen Jul 2017 #94

No, I can't, but I can sure guarantee you a loss if you don't. MineralMan Jul 2017 #106

I say it should be a goal. Whether we get there or not is not the point. boston bean Jul 2017 #4

Hillary runs for congress from New York Yupster Jul 2017 #6

I like the cut of your jib. Botany Jul 2017 #7

There is no constitutional remedy. Once the electoral college votes and it is certified in Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #11

but there is. If trump and pence have to go, if we push it and do it right, they could name Hillary boston bean Jul 2017 #45

It will never happen...who is going to name Hillary VP and why would they resign? Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #47

why did nixon resign?? boston bean Jul 2017 #48

I think Trump will resign. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #62

I'm open to everyone in the country being given a million dollars onenote Jul 2017 #65

We clearly have the right to petition and the petition can. delisen Jul 2017 #95

YES! lunamagica Jul 2017 #34

"It's that easy"?? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #43

Right. If you want to guarantee pence is not removed from office onenote Jul 2017 #69

The republiCONs woul explode! rock Jul 2017 #44

That'd work if we could survive two years of these clowns. I don't think we can. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #54

That's fun to contemplate DesertRat Jul 2017 #82

They're never going to nullify the election FakeNoose Jul 2017 #5

You can't shut down the internet, that's insane. Kentonio Jul 2017 #101

If that's true then we're not smart enough FakeNoose Jul 2017 #114

You know, from a different angle. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #8

It is not possible. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #9

She could take a public tour FBaggins Jul 2017 #10

You just blew that plan by informing the world with your post. oasis Jul 2017 #100

Nothing...our Constitution doesn't support "do overs". brooklynite Jul 2017 #12

We do not get end run by espionage. The Mechanism is "WE THE PEOPLE" nt LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #13

I think it was you but do you still have the voting data from Winston County, N.C.? Botany Jul 2017 #14

I am pretty sure it wasn't me, but Mike Farb has a clearing house LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #16

Get her to run in 2020 then vote for her. longship Jul 2017 #15

How come we have to follow the letter of the law as per the US Constitution now ..... Botany Jul 2017 #18

Because it makes this country worth defending. longship Jul 2017 #20

I had to read that twice. ⚠ procon Jul 2017 #26

That wasn't unconstitutional Bradical79 Jul 2017 #58

Yes. we have to follow the spirit of the Constitution. delisen Jul 2017 #92

McConnell refused to perform the "advise" part of the Constitution in delisen Jul 2017 #99

The right to petition doesn't require a response onenote Jul 2017 #112

I would not wish it on her loyalsister Jul 2017 #17

There may be a Constutional remedy but it will require cooperation... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #19

You forgot step 0. Rip up and throw away the US Constitution. longship Jul 2017 #21

To invalidate the Elector's vote would not be 'ad hoc laws'. Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #23

Too late, the election was certified by the sole constitutional method. longship Jul 2017 #24

Are you saying that Americans would just have to accept that our 'president' and... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #27

Yup. That's what the constitution says. longship Jul 2017 #30

Well, luckily, this is just your opinion... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #37

No, our government is run by laws, mainly the US Constitution. longship Jul 2017 #42

Believe me if it proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, it will not stand that russian runs our govt. boston bean Jul 2017 #50

That;s what I think too... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #52

Of course it would pass legal muster but it has zero onenote Jul 2017 #60

the only way it would "pass legal muster" is if the supreme court agreed unblock Jul 2017 #67

What is impossible is making clinton Speaker... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #68

There is still zero evidence any votes were changed or that some wide swath was prevented mythology Jul 2017 #22

Not to mention, Comey might not have spoken in June karynnj Jul 2017 #28

There is evidence and then you see how elections officials prevent any correction diva77 Jul 2017 #80

There is no constitutional way to do that. karynnj Jul 2017 #25

The irony of the whole Bush v Gore legal situation jontheactor Jul 2017 #87

Get her in Congress (yes, a Congressional seat). Tatiana Jul 2017 #29

If we're going to ignore reality onenote Jul 2017 #38

I think it's over and we need to move on. Tatiana Jul 2017 #40

That is truly ingenious! Serious hat tip! - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #55

It's also delusional. onenote Jul 2017 #57

I must admit I keep thinking about it...but in reality, I don't think anything will be lunamagica Jul 2017 #31

Short answer: nothing Warpy Jul 2017 #32

DU needs to face reality: Sanders & Clinton both lost. Nevernose Jul 2017 #36

You need to make this an OP leftstreet Jul 2017 #49

Waste of time... Raine Jul 2017 #46

We move forward XRubicon Jul 2017 #51

Not going to happen. The election was lost. applegrove Jul 2017 #53

Nothing beyond running again, and winning this time Bradical79 Jul 2017 #56

No. Agschmid Jul 2017 #59

She can run in 2020 tazkcmo Jul 2017 #61

She can, but I doubt she will - and I hope she doesn't. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #71

Nada, now. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #63

Find one adult that did not vote and teach them how to vote early Not Ruth Jul 2017 #66

For several reasons, lapucelle Jul 2017 #70

Anyone still suggesting this TDale313 Jul 2017 #72

Priority #1 right now is getting Trump out. Golden Raisin Jul 2017 #73

depends if the military is willing to overthrow the government Takket Jul 2017 #75

Nothing Loki Liesmith Jul 2017 #76

After Bush v. Gore and the Vote Count Was Stopped, We Were Told to "Get Over It" dlk Jul 2017 #77

You are on the right track. The opposition will say nothing can be done delisen Jul 2017 #97

Over, done iamateacher Jul 2017 #78

Crank up the way-back machine elocs Jul 2017 #79

There is a way but it would be political suicide on a nuclear scale. TXCritter Jul 2017 #81

You skipped a step:2/3 vote in Senate to convict onenote Jul 2017 #89

Whoops! Good point. TXCritter Jul 2017 #107

Nothing. Bro, do you even Constitution? WoonTars Jul 2017 #83

A democratic controlled House can nominate her Speaker Volaris Jul 2017 #84

The republicans in the senate would never ever vote onenote Jul 2017 #88

To me anyway, it's a forgone conclusion that if there's Democratic control of the House Volaris Jul 2017 #90

It's 2/3 of Senators to remove from the President forthemiddle Jul 2017 #104

The soonest that can happen is after 2020. Ace Rothstein Jul 2017 #116

I can't say "Never." Politics is deal making. delisen Jul 2017 #96

True. But in what universe would any republican accept a deal onenote Jul 2017 #113

Nothing can be done about this now. potone Jul 2017 #85

Enlist the aid of a TimeLord DBoon Jul 2017 #86

Nothing in the Constitution makes provision for this prospect. no_hypocrisy Jul 2017 #102

Only way to do it: OliverQ Jul 2017 #103

It could happen... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #105

Where would sixty seven votes to convict come from? onenote Jul 2017 #110

Agree... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #111

Elect her in 2020. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #108