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Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
38. We don't seem to be all that far apart.
Tue Jul 4, 2017, 02:04 AM
Jul 2017

You write, "My question. Who are these 'progressives' who disagree with civil rights?"

Funny, I was going to ask you the same thing.

You're the one who said that such people weren't liberals. Did you have anyone in mind? I personally don't see any significant bloc of liberals or progressives who claim that title because they're generally supportive of the left's goals but who disagree with civil rights.

(Footnote:There might be a limited exception in the case of abortion. Some Christians, the ones who read the Sermon on the Mount instead of Leviticus, believe in helping the poor and living in peace with other countries. For that reason they support an array of progressive policies. Unfortunately, however, their religious views also lead them to oppose reproductive rights. Senator Bob Casey is on the left on many issues, and even on some civil rights issues (having supported repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell, for example), but says that "Roe v. Wade" should be overturned. Frankly, I have little interest in arguing about what label(s) should be applied to him. I'm glad to have his vote against drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and against confirming Neil Gorsuch, but, in the unlikely event that he runs for the Democratic nomination for President, I'll oppose him on civil rights grounds.)

As for Trump, I don't see any difficulty. He's not a progressive. I voted against him. I'd guess that everyone on DU voted against him except for the handful of sympathetic foreigners who post here but who can't vote. The "vague innuendo" I referred to wasn't Trump's markedly non-vague statements, but rather the posts on DU that, I'm guessing, prompted the OP in this thread.

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Which rich people are you talking about? All of them or just specific ones? nt WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #1
I believe they know who they are. nikibatts Jul 2017 #13
Maybe "they" do, but not necessarily all of us. DFW Jul 2017 #30
Think you might get a hide if you 'tell'? Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #58
Could you list those things in the platform DURHAM D Jul 2017 #2
What are you talking about? oberliner Jul 2017 #3
YoungDemCA said rich people with ulterior motives. George II Jul 2017 #7
That's why I am asking the question oberliner Jul 2017 #8
What is defined as rich, 100k, 200k, 1 million? What? At that point, they do not get to be a part pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #9
This really did not work. I get you think it is an analogy, but it is not. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #4
I think it did work. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #16
You cannot be a liberal and disagree with Civil Rights. NYResister Jul 2017 #19
Apparently DU has been hacked again. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #28
Interesting. Here's the thing, NYResister Jul 2017 #32
We don't seem to be all that far apart. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #38
I said they were not liberals, because they are not. NYResister Jul 2017 #40
OK, I'll correct you. You're wrong. (Thank you for at least asking.) Jim Lane Jul 2017 #43
Tasini? NYResister Jul 2017 #45
Yes, I voted for Tasini. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #51
How do you explain his 2010 results for the 15th district? NYResister Jul 2017 #68
I don't understand why I'm called upon to explain it. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #70
It's not advantages that caused his losses, NYResister Jul 2017 #72
Susan Sarandon ? JI7 Jul 2017 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #54
definitely a rich person. VERY RICH still_one Jul 2017 #76
Jill Stein? JI7 Jul 2017 #6
Rich, but not as rich as Susan Sarandon still_one Jul 2017 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Jul 2017 #10
How to lose friends and alienate people superpatriotman Jul 2017 #11
Last I checked, the people who are being curated and shoved out by these supposed Ninsianna Jul 2017 #48
amen NYResister Jul 2017 #50
+++++1000 Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #59
I have someone in mind... but I'll say no more. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #12
Bet I Can Guess Me. Jul 2017 #14
I also have a theory Gothmog Jul 2017 #15
Ummm, who could that be? lunamagica Jul 2017 #34
. melman Jul 2017 #55
Yes, especially when they are not real DEM allies! and don't wish DEMS well! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #17
Then you must be okay with neoliberalism ideology Kathy M Jul 2017 #20
What is this crap that you are peddling. NYResister Jul 2017 #22
deleted response ..... its not worth replying .......... Kathy M Jul 2017 #23
The author of your second article was advocating NYResister Jul 2017 #25
+1 betsuni Jul 2017 #31
OMG, you're right! And the writer wasn't just "hinting" at it... but OUTRIGHT SAYING IT!! NurseJackie Jul 2017 #57
Nope did not hightail it ...... was not taking time to respond . If you are comfortable Kathy M Jul 2017 #75
Oh, I don't think anyone is going to be fooled by fake democrats in 2018 and 2020. Ninsianna Jul 2017 #49
You lost me with the word neo-something. Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #62
Who are the rich people with ulterior motives who are trying to hijack the Democratic platform? NYResister Jul 2017 #18
Yep! NurseJackie Jul 2017 #21
Dingdingding shenmue Jul 2017 #26
First name that comes to my mind is Robert Rubin. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #33
Not even Elizabeth warren would agree with you. Glass steagall was not repealed JHan Jul 2017 #36
You're mixing up two separate issues. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #41
They aren't two separate issues at all: JHan Jul 2017 #44
Yes, they're separate. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #52
The article is not acknowledging what you claimed JHan Jul 2017 #65
I agree with you about "too big to fail" Jim Lane Jul 2017 #66
I'm open to new ideas all the time JHan Jul 2017 #67
FDR was pretty rich. And he likely had an ulterior motive also; marybourg Jul 2017 #69
Yes, you've refuted the argument that all rich people are evil. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #71
FDR, our greatest President, as well as John Kennedy, were wealthy lovemydogs Jul 2017 #24
And Carter's parents owned a peanut farm , warehouse and store . Honestly where would the rich lunasun Jul 2017 #35
I agree with you 100 percent. Willie Pep Jul 2017 #39
Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #27
If you're thinking the same thing I'm thinking then we think a lot alike. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #29
Yeah, because everyone woman in NY State lives in NYResister Jul 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #46
lol NYResister Jul 2017 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #74
Damn FDR. Eko Jul 2017 #42
Needz moar corporatist establishment neoliberal. betsuni Jul 2017 #53
This board? melman Jul 2017 #56
No no no. The OP needz moar silly name-calling of Democrats. betsuni Jul 2017 #60
So you just dropped this and walked away. How about you explain Squinch Jul 2017 #63
He can't...we have rules here. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #64
Of course you are correct. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #73
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