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Gore1FL

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54. I'm not going to fight the enemy by becoming the enemy.

Tue Jul 4, 2017, 10:14 AM

Jul 2017

Sorry. I am not going to call them fat as an insult. I am not going to use sexual orientation as a slur isn't a slur even if they think it is. I will not compare them to races they don't like. Inciting people by leveraging their bigotry simply isn't a useful tactic.

There is a litany of legitimate criticisms to lodge at Trump, at Christie, at Greitens, at Loesch, at <fill in the blank>. It's not "pulling punches" to focus on those. And frankly, hurtful school yard taunts isn't exactly what I'd call a hard punch.

I don't care that Trump has a weight problem; I care he is selling us out to Russia. I don't care if he overdoes his fake tan makeup; I care that he is taking away people's healthcare. I give exactly zero shits that he has small hands; I care that he is exacerbating the wealth gap.

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To some, acting to push Democrats at ALL when we are under a fucking COUP is highjacking democracy [View all] LaydeeBug Jul 2017 OP

That is nothing compared to what is happening on Twitter Not Ruth Jul 2017 #1

This whole thing seems to be happening on Twitter LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #4

Louise Mensch and Robin both seem determined to get the other kicked off of Twitter Not Ruth Jul 2017 #188

Their infighting is NOT going to determine the future of citizen journalism LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #190

Thanks ! You are correct. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #2

It is maddening when one makes a response to those criticizing the party, to be told they are the boston bean Jul 2017 #3

I do too. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #42

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Once again, you speak for me! Squinch Jul 2017 #5

Does "Our Revolution" exclude democrats? Good indicator somethings not right about it YCHDT Jul 2017 #6

Nina said they would promote Repubs if they pass her one issue test.... bettyellen Jul 2017 #102

I didn't think my opinion of her could get any lower. But it did. NurseJackie Jul 2017 #126

I see I was mistaken - its single payer. I thought campaign financing was the one issue. bettyellen Jul 2017 #135

The "worst" Democrat is always better than the "best" Republican. I will never... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #136

Opening up the Constitution for it? SMH. What a moron. Why not just put nooses around Squinch Jul 2017 #151

Well, we'd better not be the party of Joe Manchin or Max Baucus either. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #7

amen to this. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #12

We are the big tent party...we include the Joe Manchin's and the Elizabeth Warrens. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #18

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better Manchin than a tea-party turd OKNancy Jul 2017 #46

and THAT is the ugly TRUTH of the matter. Also, they're stealing shit LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #66

Weren't we just told not long ago that we needed to be more unpure and accept that boston bean Jul 2017 #76

Makes my head spin mcar Jul 2017 #105

yup. What some fail to realize that the majority party controls the agenda. This was the whole still_one Jul 2017 #107

The Democratic Party has always had its share of "deplorables". Scruffy1 Jul 2017 #91

YES, YES and YES! mountain grammy Jul 2017 #147

The problem with you having no problem with Our Revolution is that they split the Dem vote... brush Jul 2017 #181

I agree mdbl Jul 2017 #194

You mention two people who win elections... NCTraveler Jul 2017 #129

Yeah, what a winner. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #158

Strange response when shown the fatal flaw... NCTraveler Jul 2017 #159

You assumed an argument I didn't even make. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #161

And there is another flaw. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #162

Only because she got pushed. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #166

Transparent. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2017 #167

"As is" works. HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #169

That's exactly what I said. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #171

I agree. mountain grammy Jul 2017 #149

"Milquetoast accommodation due to region" WINS elections, and is the ONLY way to win in some states BzaDem Jul 2017 #165

Does that strategy work on a national level? HughBeaumont Jul 2017 #168

You specifically said "Milquetoast accommodation due to region loses elections." BzaDem Jul 2017 #172

Preach! Talk sense to those who don't get the picture but think they do. brush Jul 2017 #182

Obviously you think it's ok to sling "gay" slurs cwydro Jul 2017 #8

I don't think that gay is a slur...I STATED TRUTHFULLY that gay *bothers* them LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #14

You're certainly repetitive. cwydro Jul 2017 #21

WRONG!! (again) but of course, I am not suprised. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #29

I would just ignore.. gaslighting... boston bean Jul 2017 #74

Omg. cwydro Jul 2017 #122

omfg LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jul 2017 #114

It does bother 'them'. I always wonder what trump sees in a person like his BF Bannon. It can't just Sunlei Jul 2017 #51

LOL. I had no idea about the suits. That's an interesting observation LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #59

There is. Rebecca Mercer, a Bannon backer is a billionaire repug's daughter. brush Jul 2017 #183

Are you accusing a DU'er of slinging gay slurs? Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #20

There is an entire thread where this OP did exactly that cwydro Jul 2017 #23

Link...Oh and I have a Gay daughter...Gay is not a slur. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #26

That was not a gay slur and you know it. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #24

Thank you. Also, voicing that support *bothers* them. They want to split semantics and it's BULLSHIT LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #30

This is tiresome. cwydro Jul 2017 #34

so post a link to this thread... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #45

Look it up yourself. cwydro Jul 2017 #48

She's trying to get you a hide for calling out another poster. n/t QC Jul 2017 #65

If 'she' wanted an alert...'she' would have already done so. Enjoy your holiday! Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #92

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Ok...that is what I thought. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #192

Calling someone 'Bubba' is name calling. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #199

THEN GO TO THAT 'DIFFERENT THREAD' NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #127

Nasty! and I like it... Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #137

THANK YOU VERY FUCKING MUCH! If they can't have it with pretending I was gay bashing LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #140

That's getting a little silly. Who cares if someone uses the word "fuck"? brush Jul 2017 #184

Bullshit melman Jul 2017 #41

And to put an exclamation point on this - CNN breaking - a bilateral meeting w/Russia will happen BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #9

'Does *gay* bother them? It does. Shove it in their fucking face.' melman Jul 2017 #10

You are doing it RIGHT FUCKING NOW. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #11

Calling you on the homophobic bullshit in your OP? melman Jul 2017 #15

*nope* calling for a circular firing squad when you need your ammo for the war. Nice try though.. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #17

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Thank you. cwydro Jul 2017 #40

Say It Loud! MineralMan Jul 2017 #13

K&R Gothmog Jul 2017 #16

Yes tiredtoo Jul 2017 #19

K&R betsuni Jul 2017 #22

Speaking as someone who *is* gay, I don't think homophobia QC Jul 2017 #25

My daughter is Gay...and that is not a slur to use that word. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #27

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #31

They want choose our words now. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #50

YAS!!! And bully us in the process. FUCK THAT. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #67

Yep...it is unacceptable. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #86

Oh, and how DARE you NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #131

Dreadful I tell you. Just. fucking. dreadful. nt LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #164

Why are you are trying to defend the indefensible? QC Jul 2017 #38

Well put. cwydro Jul 2017 #43

Thank you. I'm so tired of having commands barked at me. n/t QC Jul 2017 #47

Why would I listen to a poster who calls a DU'er anti-gay and refuses to provide a link that Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #55

I'm gay. cwydro Jul 2017 #57

STOP CHOOSING HER WORDS!11!!1!!! n/t QC Jul 2017 #71

That's a great idea! LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #193

You're not gay. You don't get to tell gay people what is and is not QC Jul 2017 #62

You're better at dealing with this oblivious person than I am. cwydro Jul 2017 #72

I'm giving up. It's a beautiful day out and I have things to do. QC Jul 2017 #73

Getting ready to take my kayak out. cwydro Jul 2017 #80

Hope you had a great 4th kayacking. LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #191

You know...calling laydee a homophobe by deliberately misrepresenting her words is not right. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #81

I haven't called any names at all. cwydro Jul 2017 #83

You too. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #85

You shouldn't call people homophobic either. There is nothing on this thread that supports that Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #138

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"Fuck these purist motherfuckers"? aikoaiko Jul 2017 #28

*NOPE*. Being cheated is how we lose...kowtowing to circular firing squad logic LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #32

YMMV but I don't see your posts as an effective strategy for building the party. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #56

I don't think you're helping either LaydeeBug Jul 2017 #63

When you say "fuck these motherfuckers" for pushing the party aikoaiko Jul 2017 #70

A Counter-Coup is the immediate and VITAL cause. Open your EYES. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #64

Her point wasn't hard to understand JHan Jul 2017 #37

there are very few "purists" out there. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #49

Last year proved there are many people JHan Jul 2017 #52

Yes Busters existed. PUMAs existed when we won the WH twice. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #58

Um... JHan Jul 2017 #101

Well that's true, mostly. But that was due in part to Obama's leadership and appealing to left aikoaiko Jul 2017 #106

Yes Obama was tremendous but he wasn't defending an incumbent.. JHan Jul 2017 #109

I agree. We do need to fight the GOP collectively. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #115

they already have a seat at the table... JHan Jul 2017 #117

That's what democracy looks like -- it can be uncomfortable at times. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #118

Excuse My Ignorance Me. Jul 2017 #79

BoBers JHan Jul 2017 #99

Aah, Got It Me. Jul 2017 #130

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While Its True I Didnt Know That Particular Appelation Me. Jul 2017 #154

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I Get You Me. Jul 2017 #157

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Of Course Me. Jul 2017 #170

It is the theory that the only problem with the Democratic Party, Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #189

You're correct. (And, thank you for trying.) NurseJackie Jul 2017 #61

I can't help it sometimes .. JHan Jul 2017 #111

That's what sets you apart. You're motivated by a desire to benefit all... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #116

The funny thing is I am really very much to the left or rather very LIBERAL on a lot of issues... JHan Jul 2017 #119

Unsurprizingly, it's totally possible to be "radical" and reasonable at the same time. You... NurseJackie Jul 2017 #120

;) JHan Jul 2017 #125

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Some of us refuse to engage in bigotry, some of us believe in maintaining our morality mythology Jul 2017 #33

Hit 'em in their hypocrisy. This ain't Tiddly-Winks. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #69

True. I can't/won't adopt that middle paragraph. But, I loved every bit of the rest of the OP. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #75

Preach it to em' ileus Jul 2017 #35

We must stay united and focused on this disastrous attack that has been inflicted on our country judesedit Jul 2017 #36

You're right. I wish they would run the Russia-Republican collusion investigations 24/7. TO SLOW! Sunlei Jul 2017 #39

Our Revolution excludes Dems? retrowire Jul 2017 #53

Yes, and they back Greens as well. They also primary sitting Democrats but the GOP Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #77

I'm not going to fight the enemy by becoming the enemy. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #54

Bingo. nt cwydro Jul 2017 #82

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Once again, I bow down. I second every single awesome word (even WinkyDink Jul 2017 #60

im right there with you....... samnsara Jul 2017 #68

Well and perfectly stated as usual, LDB. Paladin Jul 2017 #78

They can't attack your argument so they use faux outrage over a supposed slur that you never Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #84

Some People Are Tired Of Taking The Good With The Bad - Sorry Ladybub All-In Jul 2017 #87

K&R mcar Jul 2017 #88

Who's Nina? What's a Deza? leftstreet Jul 2017 #90

"FUCK THESE PURIST MOTHERFUCKERS" Gman Jul 2017 #93

Watch: Is Van Jones minimizing Trump/Russia Investigations? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #94

I think he IS minimizing it. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #98

I agree entirely, especially in light of what Nina Turner said last week: George II Jul 2017 #95

New head of Our Revolution Nina Turner on Unity with DEMS!! Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #96

After hearing both Obama and Clinton slimed for reaching across the aisle one bit this is rich.... bettyellen Jul 2017 #104

David Yankovich gets strange treatment from Wisconsin Our Revolution? Why? Madam45for2923 Jul 2017 #97

Wow. They sound insane. Squinch Jul 2017 #176

Hmm. With all due respect, it sounds like you're the one doing the dividing. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author m-lekktor Jul 2017 #108

excellent post! m-lekktor Jul 2017 #112

Oh. I thought I'd be catching flak for this post. PatrickforO Jul 2017 #173

Very well said LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #143

'Deathcare!' I love it! PatrickforO Jul 2017 #174

Do it! LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #175

Here you go... PatrickforO Jul 2017 #186

"Russia wants us to focus on Bernie and Nina." Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #103

See post 97. Squinch Jul 2017 #177

Hearsay... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #179

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Unrec x 10000 m-lekktor Jul 2017 #110

K&R radical noodle Jul 2017 #113

K&R blue-wave Jul 2017 #121

Exactly nini Jul 2017 #123

One thing we ALL have understand is that every election we have is a binary election. world wide wally Jul 2017 #124

BRAVO! NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #128

When they go low, we bury them! WhiteTara Jul 2017 #132

A disaster of an election but not a coup. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #133

***This is a coup*** workinclasszero Jul 2017 #134

Thank you. murielm99 Jul 2017 #141

K&R Jamaal510 Jul 2017 #142

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Try winning the next election with Nevernose Jul 2017 #156

See post 97. Squinch Jul 2017 #178

I honestly can't Nevernose Jul 2017 #187

I'm all for this except for the "words" part... SaschaHM Jul 2017 #163

Dems have hardened up, but..... spixxen Jul 2017 #195

I would suggest folks pick up JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #196

'I want to bring back the HUAC' melman Jul 2017 #197

Oh well - JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #198