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BzaDem

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80. Trump is a mentally unstable man whose careless tweets can set in motion events that lead to war.
Wed Jul 5, 2017, 05:31 AM
Jul 2017

You are right that getting rid of Trump will not somehow cause progressive policies to be enacted, or stop the tide of conservative policies from being enacted. All the people you mention (Koch Brothers, Mercers, etc) are not going away.

But that is true no matter how much we "put aside our differences and go after the big bosses." Of course the right will not go away. They are one of the two parties in our two party system. The right, and its power brokers, are here to stay, and nothing we could possibly do would change that. They will continue enact deeply harmful policies and attempt to entrench their power. (Though with respect, claiming "they will do more damage than Hitler/Al Qaeda/ISIS ever could" is ridiculous, and I hope that is self explanatory.) We can of course highlight the consequences of their policies with the aim of convincing voters to vote them out. (And Democrats are doing that every day.) But many general "fight back" tactics have limited effectiveness in affecting policy, particularly this far out from the next election (absent some major event that captures constant media attention, like the healthcare bill).

While the institutional right isn't going anywhere (regardless of what we do), the same cannot necessarily be said of Trump. Trump is mentally unstable. He thrives on chaos, and attempts to cause it however he can. He does not even understand the concept of caution, and disdains the very notion of listening to advisors (even those who are ideologically aligned). This set of factors dramatically increases the risk of an otherwise preventable cataclysmic event. After all, if Trump tweets us into a war that kills untold numbers of people, can you really say "well he didn't look that dangerous at the time, no one could have foreseen this"? Given everything we know now about how he chooses to conduct himself?

In addition to Trump being uniquely dangerous, he is not at all liked by most Republicans in Congress. They are standing with him today because the base still supports him (and because of political inertia), but that is not set in stone. If Trump continues to show in ever-more-frightening ways that he is unfit for office, his support (in Congress and among the public, which affects his support in Congress) could spiral downwards or collapse. Any actions Democrats take to highlight his unfitness help lay the groundwork for Trump leaving the Whitehouse, either before or as a result of the 2020 elections.

On top of that, one of the single biggest factors that affects the success or failure of Republican policies is Trump's approval rating. A low approval rating portends disaster for Republicans in 2018 and 2020, and they are going to be less likely to take legislative risks the lower it goes. A low approval rating also scares off competitive Republican Congressional candidates, and generally increases the odds of success for Democrats in 2018 and 2020.

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Yes to this.... pangaia Jul 2017 #1
I approached John Cornyn's office about it LeftInTX Jul 2017 #7
Bravo. pangaia Jul 2017 #8
What does that mean, "passed"? Passed to what? nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #23
Donors to GOP: No Cash Until Action on Health Care, Taxes LeftInTX Jul 2017 #35
We have called and sent letters to this corrupt asshole as well! Dustlawyer Jul 2017 #82
And don't forget the Mercers and Adelson, all repug billionaires jockeying for power brush Jul 2017 #2
I agree LeftInTX Jul 2017 #3
If proven trump colluded to win Pence is nothing more than a lame duck krawhitham Jul 2017 #4
He is a distraction Bettie Jul 2017 #5
I hear what you are saying Lotusflower70 Jul 2017 #6
Of course he is the enemy... lame54 Jul 2017 #9
But any amendment the Kochs try to pass that balance the budget benefits them directly. Initech Jul 2017 #10
Thats been my sig on this site for awhile. cstanleytech Jul 2017 #11
in that respect, the enemy has already won; we are an occupied, enslaved nation. nt TheFrenchRazor Jul 2017 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #13
For me, it's Trump supporters that are the problem. jaysunb Jul 2017 #14
Republicans' real goal is to change the Constitution. Lonestarblue Jul 2017 #15
It's actually not the Republican politicians who think the press is the enemy. It's Trump. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #28
I've been reading about this movement The Genealogist Jul 2017 #44
Can one party do that, with only one party in attendance? n/t freemay20 Jul 2017 #81
1% Libertarian_4_life Jul 2017 #16
Thank you for explaining an intelligent nuanced fact. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #29
Agreed. But note that Bloomberg isn't exactly... Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #30
"GOP donor billionaires" or "GOP donors" sharedvalues Jul 2017 #86
Maybe not THE enemy, but he is AN enemy DFW Jul 2017 #17
He's a small part of a much bigger problem. Initech Jul 2017 #25
No arguent there DFW Jul 2017 #36
The Koch Brothers All-In Jul 2017 #18
Soros is still out there. Though how much power he wields, I don't know. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #21
Yes, I think they never figured on actual competition. n/t DFW Jul 2017 #37
They're all threats. But I view Trump as the biggest threat. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #19
Concur, he's a loud puppet smokescreen for the Republiscrooges lambchopp59 Jul 2017 #20
There is a large group of "leaders" who would like to carve up the United States into 5 - 10 LiberalArkie Jul 2017 #22
the real problem is dems haven't figured out they're getting their ass kicked by a few certainot Jul 2017 #24
Yup! And with Sinclair Media, they own most of the country's major TV stations. Initech Jul 2017 #27
it starts with the radio certainot Jul 2017 #46
I know. But Dems haven't been able to counter that. Liberals don't seem to respond to the hate msg Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #32
its too late to compete and ineffective anyway, as they have a 95% monopoly certainot Jul 2017 #51
Folks in Wisconsin have been screaming Koch's since 2009.. LakeArenal Jul 2017 #26
The time is now The Wizard Jul 2017 #31
I think everyone says the same thing in different ways broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #33
Of course he is the enemy grantcart Jul 2017 #34
trump is an enemy. his followers are enemies. his enablers are enemies...enemies of democracy. spanone Jul 2017 #38
I think it's somewhat true. Initech Jul 2017 #40
Trump has no agenda he is mentally ill. gordianot Jul 2017 #47
He is a lightning rod. roamer65 Jul 2017 #39
Yup... Mike Nelson Jul 2017 #41
Exactly! Coal miners are 0.0000001% of the population. Initech Jul 2017 #42
He still needs to be defeated to get to the main boss. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #43
Agree Bear Creek Jul 2017 #45
You don't understand succession. Ryan is not going to replace Pence. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #48
He's the crusty oozing scab of a festering sore, yes. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #49
Wish I wasn't eating breakfast while I read your post! Canoe52 Jul 2017 #90
And this Bear Creek Jul 2017 #50
I've always said it would not be ISIS, Al-Qaida or any other external enemy that destroys us 47of74 Jul 2017 #52
Pence is complicit because he knew about Flynn. We know he knew because of the warning letter pnwmom Jul 2017 #53
The real enemy is rich people? oberliner Jul 2017 #54
The real threat is unlimited amounts of money on politics and rigged elections. Initech Jul 2017 #60
Understood oberliner Jul 2017 #63
He's my enemy Loki Liesmith Jul 2017 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #56
The bigger enemy is zentrum Jul 2017 #57
Oh I agree. Initech Jul 2017 #61
In an Ironic way the Trump administration is a useful distraction ... jimlup Jul 2017 #58
Thom Hartmann has focused on this for years, and he is very worried about their rewriting of the Akamai Jul 2017 #59
YES! GOP billionaire donors are the problem.. sharedvalues Jul 2017 #62
Money in politics will forever be a problem. But a narcissistic maniac in office... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2017 #64
Yeah I know. Initech Jul 2017 #72
Trump/Bannon & Co. have brought a formidable weapon to the fight. VOX Jul 2017 #65
I like what Stephen Colbert said - "Trump isn't a symptom, he is the disease." Initech Jul 2017 #67
Trump is my enemy BainsBane Jul 2017 #66
He is like a tooth infection that has turned into an abscess. tavernier Jul 2017 #68
Yeah you can't fight the infection without fighting the root of the problem! Initech Jul 2017 #69
Totally agree. But HOW do we go after the guys at the top of the pyramid? BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #70
he absolutely IS the fucking enemy Skittles Jul 2017 #71
Yeah he's a festering boil. Initech Jul 2017 #73
Two-pronged attack: The Right-Wing 1% AND the Trump-Russians. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #74
Here is the problem with your assertion... stevenleser Jul 2017 #75
Republicans JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #76
The real "enemy," are the ignorant white wingers that vote for GOPers. Hoyt Jul 2017 #77
This is the biggest problem. world wide wally Jul 2017 #89
At this point we have NEITHER of them out. cwydro Jul 2017 #78
No shit Cosmocat Jul 2017 #79
Trump is a mentally unstable man whose careless tweets can set in motion events that lead to war. BzaDem Jul 2017 #80
ITA. He's a disaster but he's not the problem. Nt raccoon Jul 2017 #83
I do think Trump is the focal point NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #84
Trump is their symbol to rally around, not the general, not the brains, not the spiritual leader ck4829 Jul 2017 #85
I've classified Trump as a rubber stamp for the Ryan / McConnell agendas from day 1. Miles Archer Jul 2017 #87
Trump is an enemy of our system of government Progressive dog Jul 2017 #88
He is a symptom, not the disease. Orsino Jul 2017 #91
We remove trumpf then we take on Pence. rockfordfile Jul 2017 #92
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