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72. Of course it's not Veterans Day or Memorial Day.

Wed Jul 5, 2017, 02:29 PM

Jul 2017

For example, I don't recall seeing firework stands being set up before Veterans Day or Memorial Day. Sure there is some overlap in the way the holidays are celebrated: parades, flying the flag, and, particularly in the case of Memorial Day and Independence Day, picnics and barbecues (but not on Veterans Day), but they haven't all blended into one, even if acknowledging the service of current and past members of the military is a component of all three. For example, flags are placed on the graves at most military cemeteries for Memorial Day, but not for Independence Day.

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When did the 4th of July become Veterans Day? [View all] Kyblue1 Jul 2017 OP

I had that conversation with my husband this morning. livetohike Jul 2017 #1

To Quote the great Graham Nash: Ccarmona Jul 2017 #2

Soldier worship in this country is totally out of hand, IMHO. lastlib Jul 2017 #22

I agree and I'm a veteran Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2017 #28

Same experience here and I completely agree. suffragette Jul 2017 #73

Me too. tazkcmo Jul 2017 #76

I have always dwelt that way too but I never say anythung because most people AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #38

Thank you!!! I noticed that! This is INDEPENDENCE Day, not Veterans or Memorial Day. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #3

I mentioned this at my family dinner since we are all from Phila. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #70

He's a tinpot dictator installed by a coup Warpy Jul 2017 #4

As a Veteran I was asking myself the same thing... bluecollar2 Jul 2017 #5

First: Thank You for Your Service Wiseman32218 Jul 2017 #19

+1 LiberalLoner Jul 2017 #32

Yes; and fund it to the point... Grins Jul 2017 #62

VA hospitals should be in a class of superiority almost unknown.......... Bengus81 Jul 2017 #93

Since we have a president with an approval rating below 40% who needs a guaranteed audience politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2017 #6

the one that gets me is mikeyDE Jul 2017 #7

Agree mikeargo Jul 2017 #15

We should be wearing black on Labor Day JayhawkSD Jul 2017 #40

Labor Day was supposed to be a day off kskiska Jul 2017 #44

That Will Turn Into A Veterans' Thing Too ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #95

The belief that only military veterans are true patriots is one characteristic of a fascist society. Nitram Jul 2017 #8

Yeah, Labor Day has lost its meaning entirely MrPurple Jul 2017 #13

since Will Smith. Mosby Jul 2017 #9

I'ts not the 4th of July, it's Independence Day. George II Jul 2017 #10

I don't mind. tavernier Jul 2017 #11

If your son died defending this holiday Nevernose Jul 2017 #20

I suppose Libertarian_4_life Jul 2017 #85

We beat the British a while back. Nevernose Jul 2017 #86

Holiday Libertarian_4_life Jul 2017 #88

My foster son is in the Army Nevernose Jul 2017 #89

Your son, god bless him, died for the idea of every man (woman) being free YOHABLO Jul 2017 #30

To say, AMEN, to post 5 TomSlick Jul 2017 #12

+1 FailureToCommunicate Jul 2017 #59

thought that listening to the commentators talk covering the L.A. 4th of July parade TeamPooka Jul 2017 #14

And why are there Civil War reenactments? Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #16

There Are Civil War Reenactments..... Laxman Jul 2017 #24

I was just saying that! Nevernose Jul 2017 #17

Memorial day is about bbq JI7 Jul 2017 #18

Well, let's not forget people who may have looked like this... eleny Jul 2017 #21

I'm a Vet Plucketeer Jul 2017 #23

Thank you for your service The Wizard Jul 2017 #78

Oh man! Plucketeer Jul 2017 #83

I was having similar issues with the VA. The Wizard Jul 2017 #94

Went to baseball game today, so over-the-top. Vapid fake lies lostnfound Jul 2017 #25

My view: Turbineguy Jul 2017 #26

I can blame Trump and the GOP for many things jgmiller Jul 2017 #27

well i'm 70 and bluestarone Jul 2017 #71

When did it become so tacky? NightWatcher Jul 2017 #29

Please let us know what you feel is acceptable attire for the holiday. onenote Jul 2017 #51

Serious clothing, relating to American foods. JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2017 #52

I was raised to never,ever wear xmas74 Jul 2017 #68

Please don't thank me for my service shadowmayor Jul 2017 #31

Roger that (NT) The Wizard Jul 2017 #79

I think some people here are projecting their hate on the current administration GulfCoast66 Jul 2017 #33

I'm Not ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #96

Not disagreeing with your overall point GulfCoast66 Jul 2017 #97

You Too! ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #98

The concept of freedom is being co-opted. Baitball Blogger Jul 2017 #34

Maybe the right want to rebrand from happy families eating hot dogs applegrove Jul 2017 #35

American Revolution/Revolutionary War when was the last time the 4th was referred to Raine Jul 2017 #36

When we stopped calling it "Independence Day." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #37

One of the primary participants of that July 1776 convention said this: misanthrope Jul 2017 #39

Right you are. My example: rlegro Jul 2017 #41

As "one who served" I mostly agree... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #42

I get what people are saying. JayhawkSD Jul 2017 #43

Vonnegut says that our National Anthem is the only one specifically referencing rockets and bombs. Orsino Jul 2017 #45

In Denmark the soldiers are handing out the flags to people to wave for them... TomVilmer Jul 2017 #46

Doesn't seem militaristic at all oberliner Jul 2017 #47

It's sickening. alarimer Jul 2017 #48

The Orioles have been playing "Country Boy" during the seventh inning stretch since the 70's RhodeIslandOne Jul 2017 #69

This Land is Your Land The Wizard Jul 2017 #80

about the same time the soviets rolled out tanks on May day. nt Javaman Jul 2017 #49

If you think honoring veterans on July 4 is a new thing, you haven't been paying attention onenote Jul 2017 #50

Tell that about Clinton and Obama to uberpatriots who constantly said that those two men Boomerproud Jul 2017 #54

I think there's a relevant difference between 'honoring' and 'focusing primarily on...' LanternWaste Jul 2017 #56

Where's the evidence that July 4 celebrations focused primarily on veterans or current members onenote Jul 2017 #61

How long have we been simulating bombs with fireworks? loyalsister Jul 2017 #53

Who Was It Who Made Independence Possible? The River Jul 2017 #55

Without Spain, France and other allies we would have lost that war for independence misanthrope Jul 2017 #90

It was France that made independence possible Spider Jerusalem Jul 2017 #92

glad I am not the only one who sees this. it pisses me off big time. niyad Jul 2017 #57

My wife and I watched The Tigers game yesterday and hotrod0808 Jul 2017 #58

This is just another indicator Scalded Nun Jul 2017 #60

Anyone with a clue about the country's history or traditions onenote Jul 2017 #63

Memorial Day, too. LS_Editor Jul 2017 #64

While Memorial Day honors those who lost their lives while serving in the military onenote Jul 2017 #65

By your reasoning it just as easy to make a leap with Independence Day, too. LS_Editor Jul 2017 #66

I thought it took a military to overthrow the British. mwooldri Jul 2017 #67

Of course it's not Veterans Day or Memorial Day. onenote Jul 2017 #72

Technically "Veteran's Day" was the renamed "Armistice Day" BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #75

Actually, Veterans Day was never about honoring just the living veterans onenote Jul 2017 #84

Well BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #87

There are people that will tell you we are only free because of soldiers Maeve Jul 2017 #74

It basically started in the 80's under Reagan underpants Jul 2017 #77

Well, it's not just the 4th of July... StarzGuy Jul 2017 #81

American Literature & Film set during the Civil War vs. American Lit & Film in Revolutionary Times amrita73 Jul 2017 #82

Because the drive for independence was a complex task undertaken by complicated humans misanthrope Jul 2017 #91