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Orrex

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165. Please show me where I have offered a formal diagnosis

Wed Jul 5, 2017, 03:20 PM

Jul 2017

After one post, you saw fit to diagnose me as ableist. Are you an attorney? A psychologist? On what basis did you form that assumption? How dare you pigeonhole me!

I gave an assessment that was (and remains) consistent with Trump's behavior overall. If you reacha different assessment, good for you.

"If you have ever felt pity for a person with a disability or thought of them as an inspiration, you are an avid carrier of damaging stereotypes."
Well, that's horseshit. If I have ever done a thing, than I am now an avid doer of that thing?

And you still didn't answer the question--why?

The question was not "if you sort of guess that the surgeon has dementia." The question was, if the surgeon *has* unchecked dementia.

Would you submit to brain surgery by that surgeon? If not, then how can you engage in such ableist discrimination? And, if you would decline to go under the knife for that surgeon, then are you an avid carrier of damaging stereotypes?

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Trump Just Got Lost Walking To His Limo [View all] pirateshipdude Jul 2017 OP

K & Spread UTUSN Jul 2017 #1

Wow. Stand and Fight Jul 2017 #2

ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW! nt napi21 Jul 2017 #81

Yes. And it reminds of... Grins Jul 2017 #164

The video doesn't lie. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #3

When the agent pointed out the limousine's location... ailsagirl Jul 2017 #35

Yep, he tried to cover it up. hamsterjill Jul 2017 #38

You're right, jill ailsagirl Jul 2017 #46

The car at the steps had the presidential seal. LOL Hieronymus Jul 2017 #124

That tells us that he knows he's not a real president. Orrex Jul 2017 #131

Next time Scarsdale Jul 2017 #190

Think we need to hold our collective zentrum Jul 2017 #77

Yeah, but that doesn't make sense. There is NOBODY there, within eyesight, that Trump could be anneboleyn Jul 2017 #146

now imagine if Hillary had done this and the reaction and coverage it would have got. sunonmars Jul 2017 #104

I remember when she had to be helped into her car. thucythucy Jul 2017 #152

as someone pointed out on another thread on this scene--congress would have been called niyad Jul 2017 #155

Do your thing CNN. Please be all over this. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2017 #4

CNN Should Put This Video on Loop Wednesday Morning.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #69

Still waiting for coverage of this malaise Jul 2017 #106

Exactly. Like when Hillary stumbled when she was sick. treestar Jul 2017 #130

Exactly. The msm put that on an endless loop. This is scary -- wonder who will cover it?! Oh yeah anneboleyn Jul 2017 #144

A metaphor for the entire nation on this 4th of July. 6000eliot Jul 2017 #5

Karmic symbolism. It happened on the 4th of July. Obvious sign to brush off... brush Jul 2017 #17

The saddest 4th of July in my life ailsagirl Jul 2017 #37

I posted, yesterday I think, that relevance is no longer relevant. rzemanfl Jul 2017 #53

Everything unprecedented. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #56

Twitter video blogslut Jul 2017 #6

Thank-you for posting the video. I cannot get a twitter video posted. Thanks. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #8

Get a bowl, a spoon, and some milk. longship Jul 2017 #31

Thanks for the video .. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #82

It is worth noting genxlib Jul 2017 #7

It's not just the walking away NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #9

Maybe he really does have Alzheimer's jimlup Jul 2017 #10

His father had of Alzheimer. I cannot find how the mother died. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #12

Sundowning ailsagirl Jul 2017 #16

Interesting. Thank-you. I love being informed. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #21

You're welcome! ailsagirl Jul 2017 #22

Actually, I suggested to myself I ought to google it. I was simply too lazy. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #24

I get that way, too ailsagirl Jul 2017 #26

Yes. That too. Hence, the desire to be aware of these issues. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #30

He did exactly the same thing meeting in Israel, remember? dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #41

I thought about that. We do need to figure in jet lag. Time may not have mattered. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #45

Jet lag, from New Jersey to D. C.? pangaia Jul 2017 #57

We are talking about when he did it in the Middle East. Eom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #60

Oh, oh.. sorry.. now I see that... pangaia Jul 2017 #64

Isn't that interesting. Huh. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #68

No jet lag in this case....today. mentalsolstice Jul 2017 #71

I get that. And it was in the evening. Which would be the sundown thing that started this. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #74

Another thought.... dixiegrrrrl Jul 2017 #95

A fellow health nut Democrat did tell me that after watching this video, as a matter of fact. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #97

Aggression True Dough Jul 2017 #83

The country has been through incapacitated presidents before...Wilson and Reagan brush Jul 2017 #19

I was too young with Reagan. I listened to the hearings and all, pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #23

I was too young for Wilson, my father was too young for Wilson. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #33

I was watching raygun giving a press conference once, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2017 #39

Wow. I thought his excuse in Contra was, he was sleeping. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #42

Nancy prompted him often, in public. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #92

He LIKELY has Dementia or Alzheimer's.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #72

I wonder how they will try to explain this one away? DFW Jul 2017 #11

Maybe he just wanted to go and get a cup of covfefe. n/t Mister Ed Jul 2017 #43

There's another possible scenario I thought of DFW Jul 2017 #142

You don't have to be a doctor, to recognize this. NYResister Jul 2017 #13

I have not had anyone with this, around me. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #25

I witnessed it through both of my inlaws and it's quite NYResister Jul 2017 #70

That is interesting, NYResister. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #76

Silver Alert HockeyMom Jul 2017 #128

The wandering, or worse, the driving, is scary. NYResister Jul 2017 #187

The 25th Amendment people are having fun with this Gothmog Jul 2017 #174

I'll bet they are. NYResister Jul 2017 #188

Absolutely terrifying n/t hibbing Jul 2017 #14

Isn't Washington Journal a conservative news outlet? ailsagirl Jul 2017 #15

The Washington Times is n/t left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #29

Dementia Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #18

I read that he was miffed about trending 25th amendment hashtags. Snarkoleptic Jul 2017 #20

As usual, we're kept in the dark ailsagirl Jul 2017 #28

Well, there goes the planned tour of the trap door factory. nt JBoy Jul 2017 #27

Lost in space ... GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #32

I just watched Waco, Ruby, McVeigh, KKK. Lost in space, or something. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #36

Not only "missing" the car............. MyOwnPeace Jul 2017 #34

He did the "oh" with his lips as he was almost to the bottom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #40

He looks confused, and is he talking to himself? As he's walking down the steps he looks like he's anneboleyn Jul 2017 #147

Can I post just the video on Facebook? left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #44

Ya. I do not know how to do a twitter link. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #47

Our Radio Site has posted this video to Facebook.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #75

Thank you! n/t left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #85

You're welcome... LovingA2andMI Jul 2017 #87

i'd think someone with a serious handicap would be more sensitive about taking away our health care 0rganism Jul 2017 #48

He doesn't get a single thing about HC. To make it to 70 and so clueless. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #51

he can afford care. and he does not care about those who cannot. niyad Jul 2017 #156

yep, probably still unaware of his own deficiency, too 0rganism Jul 2017 #158

The vid won't play for me.. Cha Jul 2017 #49

Blogslut post. She posted the video. Will that one work? pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #52

No, the twitter vid didn't work Cha Jul 2017 #61

Hopefully you will see it somewhere. Colbert, Travis or another one. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #63

I was hoping youtube Cha Jul 2017 #65

Here you go blogslut Jul 2017 #67

You are so good, thank-you. This one is longer. A good watch. Eom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #73

Isn't she? Cha Jul 2017 #79

Hey Aloha, blogslut! I just googled for youtube Cha Jul 2017 #78

Thanks for posting GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2017 #135

The school buses put pictures of mickey mouse or donald duck on the door, yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2017 #50

They use the damn Presidential Seal. Maybe he does need Donald Duck. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #54

Maybe it should be the Russian Presidential Seal. milestogo Jul 2017 #107

What more can the Secret Service do ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #55

I know. They drove it right up, door right off the stairs. I noticed that, too. Eom. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #59

Use the inflatable slide? forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #91

Give him a break justgamma Jul 2017 #58

Lol. Yes, that. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #62

The limo was at the foot of the freaking stairs, for... 3catwoman3 Jul 2017 #66

I just showed this to my 12-year-old son. krispos42 Jul 2017 #80

Yes. Alzheimers sufferers wander off. They sometimes walk away for blocks brush Jul 2017 #103

Oh, come on... forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #84

Remember the movie "Telefon"? Buns_of_Fire Jul 2017 #86

Lol, no, I did not watch that movie. But, good story. Thanks. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #90

Robert Frost gives your post a thumbs up Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #96

Here's the clip without the Fox coverup... hay rick Jul 2017 #88

Can we get him to wander away from the White House? lastlib Jul 2017 #89

Corporate media looped HRC non-stop . . Iliyah Jul 2017 #93

THIS BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #123

quick bluestarone Jul 2017 #94

And I remember MFM008 Jul 2017 #98

Are people seriously this shallow and desperate? loyalsister Jul 2017 #99

No, you're pretty much wrong from start to finish Orrex Jul 2017 #119

"If a Democratic President had done this" doesn't make hypocrisy okay loyalsister Jul 2017 #149

No, you're still pretty much wrong from start to finish Orrex Jul 2017 #150

Everyone here is also "falsely suggesting" loyalsister Jul 2017 #153

No, it's not an ableist strategy Orrex Jul 2017 #154

Ableism is exploiting the US cultural assumption of the superiority of the able body loyalsister Jul 2017 #157

Would you agree to have brain surgery performed by a surgeon with unchecked dementia? Orrex Jul 2017 #159

An assumption about what a wheelchair means is very much like the assumptions about Trump loyalsister Jul 2017 #161

You are making assumptions about my assumptions Orrex Jul 2017 #162

Yes, I am assuming you are not a doctor who has examined Trump loyalsister Jul 2017 #163

Please show me where I have offered a formal diagnosis Orrex Jul 2017 #165

What exactly is unchecked dementia? loyalsister Jul 2017 #167

Unchecked as in "not constrained" Orrex Jul 2017 #172

Ableism is a matter of assuming bodily superiority loyalsister Jul 2017 #168

Are some physical tasks more suitably performed by people physically able to perform them? Orrex Jul 2017 #173

Cool story bro Iplayoneontv Jul 2017 #179

Well, you're wrong from the git-go. The topic is Trump's MIND, not his body. We can SEE that he is WinkyDink Jul 2017 #183

The brain is part of the body loyalsister Jul 2017 #189

You seriously think a President of the United States, disembarking AF 1, should be excused for being WinkyDink Jul 2017 #182

Come on, give the asshole a break. He just walked down those boarding stairs unassisted.... Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #100

He always has a hold on the hand rail, unlike predecessors. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #102

It has been suggested that he has bathmophobia and... Brother Buzz Jul 2017 #148

He was looking for his golf cart MT Rorey Jul 2017 #101

Incredible! Call the doctor immediately! mfcorey1 Jul 2017 #105

That's spooky shit,where did he think it was? n/t Bengus81 Jul 2017 #108

This is stupid oberliner Jul 2017 #109

Are you kidding? This isn't fun and games. Vinca Jul 2017 #112

No oberliner Jul 2017 #114

The POTUS's limo is at the end of the stairs a step away and he thinks his car is elsewhere? Vinca Jul 2017 #116

Who the hell knows oberliner Jul 2017 #117

His tweets are another issue and another sign of his dementia. They aren't normal. Vinca Jul 2017 #120

She was ill that day....... Bengus81 Jul 2017 #115

It wasn't just that day oberliner Jul 2017 #118

True,but it wasn't just Trump supporters it was TRUMP.......... Bengus81 Jul 2017 #122

Understood oberliner Jul 2017 #125

No, it's nothing at all like that Orrex Jul 2017 #121

It's pretty much exactly the same thing oberliner Jul 2017 #126

No one in the universe has said that he should be removed because of this video Orrex Jul 2017 #129

There are posts on this very thread saying that oberliner Jul 2017 #133

It may not be the best approach, but neither is it the only approach Orrex Jul 2017 #134

remember Hilary during the campaign? mnmoderatedem Jul 2017 #110

Hell TRUMP had a field day with it............ Bengus81 Jul 2017 #111

That's one of the scariest things I've ever watched. Vinca Jul 2017 #113

Well, that was certainly disturbing. Miles Archer Jul 2017 #127

To be fair- bmbmd Jul 2017 #132

Twitter is on this Gothmog Jul 2017 #136

Be careful this has an extension that hijacks your 'new tab' Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #137

Interesting. I will give that a try. Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #138

If you are not paying attention and click on it as I did...In Chrome go to settings Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #141

Better? Eom pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #139

I hope he is getting medical help get the red out Jul 2017 #140

That kook of a doctor. LOL Hieronymus Jul 2017 #178

Our functional baffoon ffr Jul 2017 #143

What an idiot! Unrepentant Fenian Jul 2017 #145

Trump forgot where he was. He was probably looking for the Head of State he was "supposed to meet." WinkyDink Jul 2017 #151

If its dementia or alzheimers, they wont be able to hide this very long as it looks to me from his sunonmars Jul 2017 #160

Hmm... WyattKansas Jul 2017 #171

Looks like an asshole who can't remember which country he launched missles into... Thor_MN Jul 2017 #166

Perhaps he could get a job at Trump Towers as a doorman?? Angry Dragon Jul 2017 #169

Those guys make $150,000 a year. Iplayoneontv Jul 2017 #180

Why do you hate Wal-Mart?? Angry Dragon Jul 2017 #184

Your source for that salary info? WinkyDink Jul 2017 #185

Trump is not all there UCmeNdc Jul 2017 #170

Wandering Trump video spurs renewed interest in 25th Amendment Gothmog Jul 2017 #175

ALL TIE SMALL HANDS Goonch Jul 2017 #176

Very strange indeed MyNameIsKhan Jul 2017 #177

Getting maudlin is another possible symptom. His Tweet re: Charlie Gard is so weird! "We'd be WinkyDink Jul 2017 #181

Having Worked with the Secret Service. xeodtech Jul 2017 #186