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Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
23. It will vary some state to state
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 12:52 PM
Jul 2017

But when in public you can be approached at at time just like anyone can approach you. You are not obligated to answer and can leave any time.

Now, to detain a person from leavingis a higher standard. If an officer approaches you requires you to stay, or pulls you over and prevents you from leaving, while he or she investigates to determine if a crime has taken place they must meet the standard called Reasonable Suspicion. RS is more than just a hunch and you have to be able to articulate what you observed or knew that would lead a "reasonable person" to suspect a crime may have occurred or be occurring.

To arrest requires probable cause, a much higher standard than RS. You use RS to detain a person and allow you to investigate to see if probable cause exists. For example a car weaving in and out of the lane is reasonable suspicion a person is driving under the influence. You use that RS to stop them and detain them to investigate with observations, field sobriety tests and/or a portable breathalyzer to determine if probable cause exists to arrest.

3 people passed out in a car is way past the threshold for reasonable suspicion.

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So much freakin' privilege with this kid Blue_Adept Jul 2017 #1
So she thought anyway. Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #2
RW-ers are relentlessly attacking this kid now on twitter and elsewhere oberliner Jul 2017 #3
It's hard to have a shred of sympathy for her Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #5
She does not deserve death threats and rape threats oberliner Jul 2017 #6
She doesn't Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #9
This is a kid who just graduated high school oberliner Jul 2017 #11
Again you just repeated the RW comments. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #33
None of the comments have been repeated oberliner Jul 2017 #35
If releasing the body cam footage is such a good thing mythology Jul 2017 #4
I'm all for body cam footage to be public record Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #8
This officer had incredible patience! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #7
If you want to see patience Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #10
Incredible! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #12
My god. That officer has the patience of a saint. linuxman Jul 2017 #31
The officer showed restraint with the white girl. Wonder what would happened if it was a black guy? brush Jul 2017 #30
Yep! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #40
Ok, I'll play devils advocate. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #13
For all those answers: Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #14
The comments on that YouTube video are disgusting oberliner Jul 2017 #15
You just described the comments of virtually every YouTube video with a female in it Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #25
Agreed oberliner Jul 2017 #36
And you post them here. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #32
No, I have not posted any of them here oberliner Jul 2017 #34
The gist of them. Come now, I get it. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #37
Exactly oberliner Jul 2017 #38
More Devils Advocacy aikoaiko Jul 2017 #26
More replies Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #28
Watching the video, obviously the girl is way out of line. DanTex Jul 2017 #16
The officer gave her a "notice for diversion" oberliner Jul 2017 #17
Yeah he pretty well cut her a break and she reacted like this Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #18
Teenagers often show poor judgment oberliner Jul 2017 #20
Thanks for the info. DanTex Jul 2017 #19
Yes, that's true oberliner Jul 2017 #21
Alcohol consumption or possession under 21 is illegal in most states Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #24
Private parking lot, public safety check. Agschmid Jul 2017 #22
It will vary some state to state Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #23
Thanks for the answer. DanTex Jul 2017 #27
yep Alea Jul 2017 #29
LOL tenderfoot Jul 2017 #39
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