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aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
26. More Devils Advocacy
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 01:01 PM
Jul 2017

1. The video you claim is unedited is actually edited. This is a good example of police foul play to claim a tape is unedited when it is.

2. He escalates the situation by asking repetitive questions trying to irritate her and cause her to make "harmful statements". In fact, after the first gap in video between when she hands him her ID and she's standing outside asking for her parents number, he radios in that she's making "harmful statements" which is "documentation" which will help justify more escalation and using force against her. Making a joke about calling 911 instead of parents number is not really a harmful statement.

3. It her bong and she's not arrested at the time, she can do what she wants with it. He doesn't say it is confiscated under the law. She did not attack him and did not run away. She asked if he was concerned that he thought so. Just asking questions like the police do.

What I see is her trying to retrieve her property and the officer manhandling her before saying she is under arrest for resisting arrest. Of course he never said why he was arresting her in the first place which one would have to do in order to then resist arrest.

We see her moving around, but this could be caused by the officer and she does claim that he is bending her wrist painfully which is unseen on video , but torturing arrestees with wrist locks will cause movement which justifies more force by escalatory cops.

4. Maybe we will see more video. Of course, claiming he is being kicked is "documentation" for using more force.

5. I suppose if the Chief wanted to exonerate the officer he could have produced patrol car video already.

Ok I won't do DA any more because I think the situation is mostly caused by the girl, but let's face it the cops could have just checked on them by waking them up and said have a nice nap. Remember he assumes they are passed out when they could just be sleeping.

In far too many videos, police keep poking people until the civilians make a mistake in irritation. Then the hammer drops. That needs to stop.


My main point is that videos are often edited, contain references to unseen things, and can be interpreted differently.

ETA: After the Walter Scott murder by police I won't give police the benefit the doubt or even video that is ambiguous.


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So much freakin' privilege with this kid Blue_Adept Jul 2017 #1
So she thought anyway. Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #2
RW-ers are relentlessly attacking this kid now on twitter and elsewhere oberliner Jul 2017 #3
It's hard to have a shred of sympathy for her Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #5
She does not deserve death threats and rape threats oberliner Jul 2017 #6
She doesn't Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #9
This is a kid who just graduated high school oberliner Jul 2017 #11
Again you just repeated the RW comments. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #33
None of the comments have been repeated oberliner Jul 2017 #35
If releasing the body cam footage is such a good thing mythology Jul 2017 #4
I'm all for body cam footage to be public record Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #8
This officer had incredible patience! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #7
If you want to see patience Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #10
Incredible! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #12
My god. That officer has the patience of a saint. linuxman Jul 2017 #31
The officer showed restraint with the white girl. Wonder what would happened if it was a black guy? brush Jul 2017 #30
Yep! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2017 #40
Ok, I'll play devils advocate. aikoaiko Jul 2017 #13
For all those answers: Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #14
The comments on that YouTube video are disgusting oberliner Jul 2017 #15
You just described the comments of virtually every YouTube video with a female in it Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #25
Agreed oberliner Jul 2017 #36
And you post them here. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #32
No, I have not posted any of them here oberliner Jul 2017 #34
The gist of them. Come now, I get it. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #37
Exactly oberliner Jul 2017 #38
More Devils Advocacy aikoaiko Jul 2017 #26
More replies Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #28
Watching the video, obviously the girl is way out of line. DanTex Jul 2017 #16
The officer gave her a "notice for diversion" oberliner Jul 2017 #17
Yeah he pretty well cut her a break and she reacted like this Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #18
Teenagers often show poor judgment oberliner Jul 2017 #20
Thanks for the info. DanTex Jul 2017 #19
Yes, that's true oberliner Jul 2017 #21
Alcohol consumption or possession under 21 is illegal in most states Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #24
Private parking lot, public safety check. Agschmid Jul 2017 #22
It will vary some state to state Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #23
Thanks for the answer. DanTex Jul 2017 #27
yep Alea Jul 2017 #29
LOL tenderfoot Jul 2017 #39
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