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MiddleClass

(888 posts)
7. Too burdensome on small businesses
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jul 2017

I would say a public option that would act like Medicare for all in the ACA, leave the tax structure as is, those that want to provide healthcare can do so, they also got the option to pay for the public option in the individual market under ACA. All government subsidies go to the public option, otherwise pay the premium to the private market if you choose. Let people vote with their pocketbook, and if they choose the public option. It will de facto be Medicare for all.

All Medicare protections (there is a huge amount outside actual coverage) applied to the public option things like only allowed to charge up to Medicare allowed cost, is deductible is not paid in 18 months, Medicare reimburses, cannot sue for the cost above that privately. All protections that are written Medicare that people don't realize

As an additional protection, Medicare, optional at 55. And see what happens.


Politicians would not be happy, number 1 wedge issue gone

Not all employers can afford that MichMary Jul 2017 #1
Does your firm offer paid health insurance to their employees? madinmaryland Jul 2017 #9
They get no benefits MichMary Jul 2017 #10
I get it. A business that is not providing their employees with insurance. Hopefully madinmaryland Jul 2017 #14
That's why many small businesses like the ACA JI7 Jul 2017 #17
We are not a business MichMary Jul 2017 #23
I didn't think single payer was supposed to be implemented that way. n/t eShirl Jul 2017 #24
that's nuts OKNancy Jul 2017 #2
It won't happen ...why not call you senator and get what you can an ACA where Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #3
EXACTLY ! Jimbo101 Jul 2017 #4
We can do it if we try. DemocraticWing Jul 2017 #5
In the case of most small businesses, they don't have the money JI7 Jul 2017 #12
Small business tyrants will be their own downfall. DemocraticWing Jul 2017 #15
Stealing ? In that case most small businesses will shut down and there will be a few huge mega corps JI7 Jul 2017 #16
Let's get rid of the corporations too. DemocraticWing Jul 2017 #18
what does that even mean ? many small business owners work jobs while trying to run their business JI7 Jul 2017 #19
The way things actually are will change. They always do. DemocraticWing Jul 2017 #20
But that doesn't mean they will change in the direction of your fantasy of no corporations. n/t BzaDem Jul 2017 #21
I think he's kidding Yupster Jul 2017 #22
That is such BS...I am a capitalist... I believe in a system that has protections for workers Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #28
with the ACA low wage worker get coverage through medicaid or through subsidized premiums. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #27
Those who don't want to try recognize the futility of a push with all branches of the government Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #25
That would encourage employers to change employees to independent contractors mythology Jul 2017 #6
It would never pass and the GOP would be in control for years if we tried a stunt Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #26
Too burdensome on small businesses MiddleClass Jul 2017 #7
This would increase corporate power even more. NCTraveler Jul 2017 #8
Most businesses can't afford that JI7 Jul 2017 #11
This would greatly increase the cost of hiring low paid employees dsc Jul 2017 #13
Do you want all low income workers pushed or of work Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #29
It should be like the German system exboyfil Jul 2017 #30
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