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eniwetok

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30. GOPers aren't the problem...

Sun Jul 9, 2017, 04:21 PM

Jul 2017

In all the forums I've debated this topic over the past 15-20 years... I've found most Dems don't want true democratic reforms. I'd put the number at about 5%.

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Can Someone Become President With 24% Of The Popular Vote? [View all] eniwetok Jul 2017 OP

With help from Russia and the continuing of gerrymandering it could be possible. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #1

this has nothing to do with Russia... eniwetok Jul 2017 #2

Gerrymandering and vote suppression YES. And yes it does have to do with Russia onecaliberal Jul 2017 #3

"election integrity" sounds like a right wing meme eniwetok Jul 2017 #10

If you think election integrity is a right wing meme then you're speeding trumps story. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #13

you didn't explain yourself. eniwetok Jul 2017 #39

Im Talking about all the machines the suppression the cross check. The INTEGRITY onecaliberal Jul 2017 #40

Sure... but remember this... eniwetok Jul 2017 #41

If there were NO voter suppression that would never happen. It's only happened 3 times onecaliberal Jul 2017 #42

it doesn't matter... eniwetok Jul 2017 #57

Not saying there is no bias. And the EC should absolutely vote with the winner of popular vote. onecaliberal Jul 2017 #58

especially since we know it's origin eniwetok Jul 2017 #60

They wrote all men are created equal but what they really meant are only white men onecaliberal Jul 2017 #61

Just curious -- how many millions of votes would this amount to? In other words, pnwmom Jul 2017 #4

here are the numbers... assuming I didn't screw up... eniwetok Jul 2017 #5

Wow! I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was this bad. pnwmom Jul 2017 #6

Only the popular vote eliminates these absurdities... eniwetok Jul 2017 #8

yes. Chipper Chat Jul 2017 #7

Trump job rating in Michigan as of May was 61% unfavorable only 12% positive stevenleser Jul 2017 #15

Back in March Trump approval level in Wisconsin was 41% and disapproval was 47% stevenleser Jul 2017 #16

Rick Scott will be out of office in 2020 csziggy Jul 2017 #28

In my opinion the defect comes from Egnever Jul 2017 #9

who cares what was "intended"??? eniwetok Jul 2017 #11

as for a check on the masses... eniwetok Jul 2017 #12

There are ways both issues can be resolved. stevenleser Jul 2017 #17

Sure, I support IRV... but not WITH the EC eniwetok Jul 2017 #31

That is what I meant. stevenleser Jul 2017 #34

They could win with less than that ... surrealAmerican Jul 2017 #14

That is not correct. You need one more than half the electoral votes to win. Otherwise... stevenleser Jul 2017 #18

Wouldn't the House choosing in that event ... surrealAmerican Jul 2017 #19

Correct, but that is not what your original post stated. stevenleser Jul 2017 #21

Nope... less than 270 goes to House eniwetok Jul 2017 #23

Thanks for that. surrealAmerican Jul 2017 #24

you may still be correct.. eniwetok Jul 2017 #27

Unfortunately The EC fallout87 Jul 2017 #20

Not in the lifetimes of anyone alive today I dont think. stevenleser Jul 2017 #22

GOPers aren't the problem... eniwetok Jul 2017 #30

I don't think your forums are representative stevenleser Jul 2017 #33

look up my old threads here... eniwetok Jul 2017 #37

That's Quite An Exaggeration ProfessorGAC Jul 2017 #50

The EC is just a small part of the problem eniwetok Jul 2017 #54

I did understand what you were saying and my response remains: it's unsupported. stevenleser Jul 2017 #53

Our system is virtually reformproof... which is why... eniwetok Jul 2017 #25

It'll happen only after a Republican candidate wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote. NYC Liberal Jul 2017 #46

It is actually fairly close to be effectively abolished. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #47

Wishful thinking fallout87 Jul 2017 #48

Actually it makes it irrelevant. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #49

An attempt to reform the winner-take-all treestar Jul 2017 #62

intended? eniwetok Jul 2017 #66

A possible outcome given the rules of the game aikoaiko Jul 2017 #26

easy to say... impossibe to achieve eniwetok Jul 2017 #29

I misread you post... eniwetok Jul 2017 #38

If you let enough third parties in this could happen Gothmog Jul 2017 #32

In theory it could go down to 9% eniwetok Jul 2017 #36

it's theoretically possible to become president with zero votes! unblock Jul 2017 #35

More importantly, the Constitution doesn't require that anybody vote... brooklynite Jul 2017 #45

many states did just that. eniwetok Jul 2017 #56

In theory somebody could win the presidency with even less mythology Jul 2017 #43

The EC is a throwback to slavery. Foamfollower Jul 2017 #44

You could probably become president with 0.01% of the popular vote Ezior Jul 2017 #51

"which also deprive the Dems control of the Senate." - are you proposing eliminating states? n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2017 #52

really... that's your response? eniwetok Jul 2017 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author spanone Jul 2017 #59

Isn't it absurd enough that the losing candidate got 3 million more votes than the winner? Tiggeroshii Jul 2017 #63

we have a Civic Religion in the US eniwetok Jul 2017 #64

And for some reason, despite all that... Tiggeroshii Jul 2017 #65

where are the Dems? eniwetok Jul 2017 #68

Actually, in theory, one could win with way less than that dsc Jul 2017 #67

I know turnout is irrelevant... eniwetok Jul 2017 #69