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2. Maybe because we are different?

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What is with the rise in be nice to "conservatives" posts here? [View all] Cary Jul 2012 OP

They don't like it when we hurt their little feelings. Poor babies. Autumn Jul 2012 #1

yep Go Vols Jul 2012 #7

Fuck them all to hell. I can be nice to them when I'm dead Autumn Jul 2012 #12

I hate plus posts but +1000000000 nt Demonaut Jul 2012 #218

+1.000 freshwest Jul 2012 #231

Maybe because we are different? jberryhill Jul 2012 #2

Different? Er, there's another word for that, and it ain't so nice. Zalatix Jul 2012 #9

Exactly! Be nice to a conservative and they take you for being a Mark, and RKP5637 Jul 2012 #16

They'll say that we're becoming the monsters we fight. Zalatix Jul 2012 #34

They are fascists. They are to the right of conservatives on the legitimate political spectrum. Cary Jul 2012 #36

Yep, in fact I would call them fascist terrorists. Yep, IMO Eisenhower RKP5637 Jul 2012 #43

The problem with that is that it became paralyzed by money. It NEEDS to be dynamic. That's patrice Jul 2012 #85

EXCELLENT!!! I wonder, how would that come about. In a democracy one would RKP5637 Jul 2012 #115

GRASSROOTS "Conservatives" I fly that one by LIKE it too. DU is so focused up high, they forget patrice Jul 2012 #131

't'would be nice, but we need to know--NOW!!!! Ship of Fools Jul 2012 #158

Rachel Maddow did a great piece on this. bvar22 Jul 2012 #87

I would point you to Thom Hartmann Cary Jul 2012 #88

I've been listening to Thom for a number of years now. bvar22 Jul 2012 #96

Thanks for the link!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #116

Thanks, I had missed that. MissMarple Jul 2012 #184

Bingo! WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2012 #119

Certainly not Teddy Roosevelt. He'd be a Communist. Zalatix Jul 2012 #152

The completely explains the RW politicians ability to convince and continue to convince Sheepshank Jul 2012 #252

You know, often I think they really want to be punished, it seems they are RKP5637 Jul 2012 #260

You should catch up on your cartooney notion of "Darwin" jberryhill Jul 2012 #31

What religious nonsense? Your argument is nonsense. Zalatix Jul 2012 #39

Unfortunately, you're correct. BlueCaliDem Jul 2012 #89

Yes, being charitable to Conservitards is like handling serpents. My faith ain't that strong. Zalatix Jul 2012 #92

Remember right after the 2008 election? deutsey Jul 2012 #117

Ayup!!! +1,000! Zalatix Jul 2012 #123

Exactly Cary Jul 2012 #136

I think that was only because the Democratic party's establishment Marr Jul 2012 #168

That is plausible to me, unfortunately n/t deutsey Jul 2012 #192

Hear hear! N/T GopperStopper2680 Jul 2012 #146

Yes. One main difference is Doctor_J Jul 2012 #30

Ooooh, that stung. Zalatix Jul 2012 #40

Oh really? jberryhill Jul 2012 #182

Ah, yes, it's been a great 20 years, hasn't it Doctor_J Jul 2012 #191

I assume that in 1992 the law did not prevent you from marrying someone you loved? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #201

I assume you believe that DOMA repeal offsets the last 20 year debacle? Doctor_J Jul 2012 #214

Some of us are sick of being door mats for the Right. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #107

Yes, we are different to what their right wing noise machine propagandists told them sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #141

Yeah, we're not pushing "rich first" bullshit. Marr Jul 2012 #156

That hasn't gotten us very far. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #181

Well, let me put it this way... pipi_k Jul 2012 #246

Fetishization of the "center." Scootaloo Jul 2012 #3

You aren't confusing fascists with conservatives, are you? A Simple Game Jul 2012 #11

There's no difference in today's Repig party. hifiguy Jul 2012 #24

Yep! That's what I was trying to say in my post #16, but you said it far better!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #29

+ 1000% mazzarro Jul 2012 #63

I'm sure you don't mean that aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #38

I most certainly do mean it. And if enough people don't understand A Simple Game Jul 2012 #53

How do we lose if we flush Conservatives down the toilet? Zalatix Jul 2012 #67

"Conservatives are not our enemy" aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #91

the cons are the strong arm of the 1% while the republicons are in our way they are but puppets of leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #124

You're right, the 1% does need the willful ignorance of the left also. And for far too sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #147

Answers to your 3 questions: Gemini Cat Jul 2012 #263

Cause & effect PETRUS Jul 2012 #58

I think you nailed it! LongTomH Jul 2012 #86

Why have you opened your eyes and they haven't? aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #97

Glad you asked. PETRUS Jul 2012 #137

Fear and desperation are part of it aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #161

Yup. PETRUS Jul 2012 #176

No, there is no confusion at all. I'm CERTAIN. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #74

hmm... chervilant Jul 2012 #127

Very nice post, thank you. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #138

What if its the truth??????? mstinamotorcity Jul 2012 #148

What do we call chervilant Jul 2012 #244

The key difference is... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #190

hmm... chervilant Jul 2012 #245

By your logic we should have called for peace negotiations with the Confederates Zalatix Jul 2012 #234

You're confusing the 1% with cons Doctor_J Jul 2012 #121

I'm not confused about anything. A Simple Game Jul 2012 #140

Cute & cuddly 1%-ers PETRUS Jul 2012 #180

Your post is nonsense Doctor_J Jul 2012 #189

Okay... PETRUS Jul 2012 #200

don't know about the word "enemy" but my anger toward the right is not just the 1% progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #157

I call them reactionaries Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #183

A term from the '60s, I remember it well. n/t A Simple Game Jul 2012 #185

Since the French Revolution ... Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2012 #199

Self Promoting Conservatism? fredamae Jul 2012 #4

The best way to understand the enemy is to befriend them. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #5

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer (for different reasons, of course). nt patrice Jul 2012 #8

That quote dates back to Sun Tsu. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #17

I don't want to understand them. I want to take the Doctor_J Jul 2012 #19

It's NOT "Kumbaya". Understanding is rational. This is about a priority on problem solving, instead patrice Jul 2012 #32

And while you are busy.. 99Forever Jul 2012 #54

Isn't your use of "they" the same thing that you hate in others? THEY are not all the same. patrice Jul 2012 #70

You can deal with assholes trying to destroy you .. 99Forever Jul 2012 #79

I am not telling you how to do whatever you're doing. I am saying there are MORE than only zero-sum patrice Jul 2012 #98

I'm living with the results.. 99Forever Jul 2012 #104

+1 "Get half the poor people to fight the other half" works all too well. KurtNYC Jul 2012 #197

THAT. is. exactly. what. DU. is for. patrice Jul 2012 #251

how much more do you need to understand them? frylock Jul 2012 #122

I don't know. Understanding is very situation-specific. It requires concrete effort, principles are patrice Jul 2012 #128

well by all means then let us continue to study and analyze the right-wing idealogues.. frylock Jul 2012 #186

Situation specific means out there in the real world lives of people, many of whom happen to be patrice Jul 2012 #188

you don't seem understand fuckall.. frylock Jul 2012 #203

Hit and run. How courageous! patrice Jul 2012 #248

If you want to understand Conservatives, Democrat OR Republican, bvar22 Jul 2012 #145

Agreed on the Kumbaya stuff. Still, you have to understand them to fight them. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #35

Completely agree. Understanding is essential. This is why relying on LABELS only is damaging. patrice Jul 2012 #55

Agreed. There are some brave souls who watch FOX so we know what's going on. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #61

I very strongly want to do the work of authentic revolution, but I CAN'T do that job either. patrice Jul 2012 #72

It takes a person stronger than I am. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #82

The reality is that margins are thin. Maybe not where you are, but definitely elsewhere and patrice Jul 2012 #6

+++ 1,000 +++ I recently had occasion to do a lot of traveling in the US and RKP5637 Jul 2012 #22

Actually, I've been feeling like there's been an uptick in agitating. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #10

Given that some people ARE going to be different from you, how do you feel about differences patrice Jul 2012 #13

There are no remaining Repukes like Ike Doctor_J Jul 2012 #18

The ones in "power" are and when you cede ground that may not be that uniform, you lose. patrice Jul 2012 #23

Come on Doctor_J Jul 2012 #27

Reason? I see practically no reason anywhere. And even if I did, even if some few attempts HAD been patrice Jul 2012 #44

44 years, if you consider the loss to Nixon. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #45

Agreed. And think of the tragedy of generations of people looking at generations of "leaders" and patrice Jul 2012 #80

These assumptions that absolutely millions of people are completely = to whatever LABEL we put on patrice Jul 2012 #26

About 50/50 Doctor_J Jul 2012 #14

The moles I can understand. Cary Jul 2012 #46

YOU joined this site on May 9, 2012. Funny how quickly you've become an "expert"! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #266

Exactly. AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #47

Funny how you could flip that argument around entirely RZM Jul 2012 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author RZM Jul 2012 #108

They are out neighbors, our family, our coworkers... Blanks Jul 2012 #15

Wrong Doctor_J Jul 2012 #20

I don't follow... Blanks Jul 2012 #42

You're suggesting that we JUSTIFY what they are doing, by doing it to them? Do you think that's how patrice Jul 2012 #49

Yes, and by that logic we should have dropped birthday cards and See's Candy Zalatix Jul 2012 #68

I have heard Bernie refer to "conservatives" as fascists and sociopaths Cary Jul 2012 #78

Senator Sanders calls things what they are, one of the reasons I follow him. BUT have you EVER seen patrice Jul 2012 #111

No one here is talking about doing to fascist sociopaths what they do to us. Cary Jul 2012 #125

Not necessary to talk about it. We have encoded the oppressor so deeply within ourselves that we patrice Jul 2012 #254

Re our own worst enemies on tbis board Cary Jul 2012 #255

Yes. But I live in a state that's ALWAYS written off. I'm represented by hand-picked Koch slaves patrice Jul 2012 #256

I'm truly sorry that you have been out of work Cary Jul 2012 #258

What I need is to find one honest-to-god Leftie candidate with half a chance of success to patrice Jul 2012 #259

Well said! randome Jul 2012 #37

Maybe. But they're still idiots. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #57

Don't worry, there's provocation on an hourly basis, so yes, striking BACK not OUT sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #151

Nice? No. PDJane Jul 2012 #21

Cool, but honest, restraint is a powerful position. nt patrice Jul 2012 #50

Yes, it has really been successful over the last 20 years Doctor_J Jul 2012 #112

Okay, so is "our leadership" intellectually competent or not. I keep hearing that they aren't & patrice Jul 2012 #249

And, btw, wouldn't Sen. Sanders say it isn't about "them" anyway? You are saying here that WE patrice Jul 2012 #250

i haven't seen the posts to which you refer. barbtries Jul 2012 #25

IMHO, there are people who believe BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #33

Except nobody said that. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #170

Huh? BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #195

In general? Son of Gob Jul 2012 #202

Excuse me? BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #205

Do you even know what stalking is? Son of Gob Jul 2012 #208

Yes you are stalking BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #213

You clearly aren't a reasonable person Son of Gob Jul 2012 #221

fuck them and the dressage horses they rode in on. n/t 2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #28

My parents are conservative Inkfreak Jul 2012 #41

Yeah. Screaming, labeling, name calling. That does nothing but ensure that the war goes on. randome Jul 2012 #52

I'm not referring to real life interactions Cary Jul 2012 #56

'Real life' includes Republicans, like it or not. randome Jul 2012 #76

Do some research on sociopaths Cary Jul 2012 #84

where are all the 'nice to conservative' posts? WI_DEM Jul 2012 #48

Here's one here, that always draws the RW trolls like moths to the flame: freshwest Jul 2012 #233

Link? n/t FSogol Jul 2012 #51

Why? n/t Cary Jul 2012 #60

Because I don't see a single "be nice to conservatives" post. FSogol Jul 2012 #62

I don't understand how you can miss them. Cary Jul 2012 #73

Your honor...The defendent is sooo guilty, we are not going to produce FSogol Jul 2012 #77

This isn't a court of law Cary Jul 2012 #81

Since you can't back up your OP. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #163

Oooh. I hit a vein with you, eh? Cary Jul 2012 #164

I think the OP is refering (errantly) to my thread KurtNYC Jul 2012 #113

In part, but there are a number of other people like you. Cary Jul 2012 #135

People like me?! I am a beautiful and unique snowflake! KurtNYC Jul 2012 #149

You forgot delicate and sensttive snowflake, too.. Like all of us, LOL! freshwest Jul 2012 #232

"That's how guilty he is." DocMac Jul 2012 #179

ohshit. Wait Wut Jul 2012 #269

do we have any "be nice to conservatives" posts cause i havnt seen any let alone a rise in them leftyohiolib Jul 2012 #59

Personally I am of the sunlight is the best disinfectant stripe Cary Jul 2012 #65

This is a war. That's the way THEY look at it. Bake Jul 2012 #64

I agree but for different reasons Bake. Cary Jul 2012 #71

f*ck conservatives. I don't tolerate them in my life and I will not be nice. bowens43 Jul 2012 #66

It's "third way" DU. nt Maven Jul 2012 #69

Because something has not happened does not mean that it cannot happen. Please don't mistake patrice Jul 2012 #90

Remove the fucking carpet. Which is what we need to do with conservative and Autumn Jul 2012 #95

Insult is the last resort of the resource-less. Tell me specifically what is wrong with that logic, patrice Jul 2012 #99

You assume everyone CAN "remove the carpet" and those who can't DON'T MATTER. nt patrice Jul 2012 #100

Just LIKE Republicans assume everyone CAN earn a decent living & those who can't DON'T MATTER. patrice Jul 2012 #101

Just LIKE Republicans assume everyone CAN buy HC ins. & those who can't DON'T MATTER patrice Jul 2012 #102

Oh you mean a REAL carpet. Shit I thought you were going all zen Autumn Jul 2012 #153

BTW, you have heard about redistricting have you not? patrice Jul 2012 #103

Your analogy is so utterly flawed it's not worth unpacking. Maven Jul 2012 #230

Beaneath you, huh? Please, oh please, favor us with the gift of your superior abilities, or I guess patrice Jul 2012 #253

I haven't seen any of those, but IMO, those conservatives can kiss my hairy old ass! nt MADem Jul 2012 #75

I'm always nice to children, mental defectives, and psychotics. Warpy Jul 2012 #83

Conservatives ARE my Political Enemies.... bvar22 Jul 2012 #93

One person's "be nice to conservatives" Capt. Obvious Jul 2012 #94

They are DLC infiltrators. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #105

Chomsky self-identifies as a Conservative & says U.S. Conservatism has come to mean the opposite patrice Jul 2012 #109

Taking apart simplistic arguments does not constitute 'heaping praise' RZM Jul 2012 #110

+ a gazillion chervilant Jul 2012 #118

Pfeh Cary Jul 2012 #132

I stand by my post RZM Jul 2012 #139

Right Cary Jul 2012 #154

If you're so smart, why did you post this OP in the wrong forum? RZM Jul 2012 #160

I am smart enough to know when people are being jerks for no reason other than to be jerks Cary Jul 2012 #162

I took issue with the OP because I think it's false RZM Jul 2012 #166

So you really ought to simply say that instead of launching into personal attacks Cary Jul 2012 #167

FYI RZM Jul 2012 #169

No, your original criticism wasn't limited to my argument. Cary Jul 2012 #171

I have studied it all from Leo Straus to Ayn Rand to Cary Jul 2012 #174

Fits with my theory that the specific insults that people pick actually betray THEIR own KurtNYC Jul 2012 #206

When someone is defecating in my mess kit, I'm not going to politely ask them to please stop. retread Jul 2012 #114

I despise conservative thinking now more than ever. SpankMe Jul 2012 #120

It helps move DU rightward. Octafish Jul 2012 #126

and it's been effective... up until now fascisthunter Jul 2012 #198

Professional Serfs. Octafish Jul 2012 #204

+1. and boy is it moving. HiPointDem Jul 2012 #243

Who besides me jumped in here to look for somebody who was being nice? Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #129

Ignore the trolls malaise Jul 2012 #130

On a personal level, sure. Be nice. Quantess Jul 2012 #133

Every day, I find myself having an increasing Jamaal510 Jul 2012 #134

Yep, it's a damn vile combination. Republican elitists wanting to tear the RKP5637 Jul 2012 #142

Let them eat horse Sh-t GopperStopper2680 Jul 2012 #143

Adulthood? loyalsister Jul 2012 #144

Anyone imploring Dems to be nice to GOPers and befriend GOPers Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #150

Yep. Autumn Jul 2012 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author Cary Jul 2012 #165

FYI. Your admission that you were previously tombstoned is still visible RZM Jul 2012 #207

Uh-oh. You sly dog-- you got him monologing. :-) Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #211

Looks like they took my advice RZM Jul 2012 #223

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #178

Good advice. FSogol Jul 2012 #187

I assume they treat me how they want to be treated. Iggo Jul 2012 #155

A nice barbecue, by all means. annabanana Jul 2012 #172

One more response to this OP, then I am off Doctor_J Jul 2012 #173

No sale RZM Jul 2012 #175

sorry, but soft gloves are not working. fascisthunter Jul 2012 #194

well, then the "conservatives" are REALLY in luck Doctor_J Jul 2012 #210

They get what they vote for. Just like we do RZM Jul 2012 #212

there are lots of people here that think Dems should always take the high road notadmblnd Jul 2012 #177

+1000 smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #209

most are called centrist trolls who are pushing us to the right fascisthunter Jul 2012 #193

Maybe some are. But you should at least acknowledge the RW moles RZM Jul 2012 #215

I'm sick of all the Neville Chamberlains trying to appease the RW crazies. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #196

Chamberlain's choices were appeasement or war. Does that mean you want war? RZM Jul 2012 #216

Does that mean you want appeasement? Doctor_J Jul 2012 #219

I don't want civil war RZM Jul 2012 #220

Wrong. We need to rattle their cages as hard as we can. Zalatix Jul 2012 #240

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #241

Wait, what? Tantrum much? Zalatix Jul 2012 #242

Our system is a perpetual war Cary Jul 2012 #222

If that is the only alternative to appeasement, then yes. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #224

So you want to kill your fellow citizens for having different views? RZM Jul 2012 #225

I don't want war, I'm sick of trying to prevent it by... Odin2005 Jul 2012 #226

But what if they don't start shooting? RZM Jul 2012 #227

I hope they don't shoot, But I expect that they will. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #228

Ok then. Let O'Shea Jackson rap your fantasies RZM Jul 2012 #229

"But I don't think we should be gearing up for civil war now." Zalatix Jul 2012 #235

So what are you waiting for? RZM Jul 2012 #236

I already boycott the hell out of them and exclude them from my life. Zalatix Jul 2012 #237

So you practice war with your dollar, but only play on war with everything else RZM Jul 2012 #238

The South fired the first shot. Zalatix Jul 2012 #239

+1,000,000,000,000 Odin2005 Jul 2012 #261

Hey, I'm nice to some conservatives, the ones who have that lightbulb go off above their heads Trailrider1951 Jul 2012 #217

The OP had this (bizarre!) call for "moderation" just two days ago. Can't make up her mind? nt Romulox Jul 2012 #247

Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #262

Notice he doesn't deny it, folks. This guy is yanking your chains. nt Romulox Jul 2012 #264

I was #2 pintobean Jul 2012 #271

Thank you, pintobean! Romulox Jul 2012 #272

lol, really? havent seen the posts you refer to, but, huh. lol. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #257

He's talking about HIS OWN posts! He's surely having a larf at our expense! nt Romulox Jul 2012 #265

ahhh. well, see, that is more of a huh. lol. i have not been in GD a lot. thanks. nt seabeyond Jul 2012 #267

Here ya go: "What happened to the art of moderation?", started by Cary, Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:07 PM Romulox Jul 2012 #268

romulox, thank you. i did see that thread. a couple times. i never went in. thought it crap, seabeyond Jul 2012 #270