What have Nader, Stein and the Green's accomplished,

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8. Let me give you a list.

Keep in mind, I don't care about moral victories. I care about the actual effects and impact politicians have. I don't care about how "principled" and "clear conscienced" they feel.

1. They have ensured the undemocratic election of two popular vote losers – both Republican.

2. Democrats have won the popular vote in 6 of the last 7 elections. But thanks to the Green Party, Democrats have only been elected president in 4 of those elections.

3. They have made what would be a 6-3 liberal Supreme Court majority a 5-4 Republican majority. permanence of a right wing Supreme Court. Neither John Roberts, nor Samuel Alito, nor Niel Gorsuch would be on the court today if not for the elections the Supreme Court threw.

4. In fact, they're probably responsible for the only one of the 7 elections where Democrats lost the popular vote – if Bush hadn't become president in 2000, Gore probably would've been re-elected in 2004.

5. Which means the Green Party probably ensured not only a right wing SCOTUS majority, but a right wing Supreme Court Chief Justice.

6. The Greens ensured a President Al Gore would've never had the chance to do what Bush didn't – pay attention to intel that could've helped avert 9/11.

7. Because not only did the Greens ensure W's election, they ensured Dick Cheney as Vice President and Rumsfeld as Defense Secretary, ensuring the Iraq War and the loss of thousands of Americans and half a million Iraqi lives.

8. And thanks to them, we have unConstitutional detention centers like Gitmo.

9. We can thank them for the death of the Kyoto Protocool.

10. Also for America's withdrawing from the Paris Climate Agreement. Because they're so green.

11. Oh, and we can thank them for the botched response to Katrina.

12. We can also thank them for the election of Trump.

13. And the decline of U.S. power.

14. And the Muslim ban.

15. And the end of any hope that marijuana would be reclassified and we'd move towards decriminalization and national acceptance of medicinal marijuana.

16. And for the fact that LGBT people now live in fear of losing all the rights they've fought so hard for.

17. And for the fact that mass incarceration, the drug war, and police killings are now being enabled more than ever.

18. And for the fact that women must live in fear of losing their rights and autonomy as sexual predators and religious extremists alike are emboldened.

19. And for the fact that our libraries could be decimated.

20. And for the fact that healthcare access for the poor and disabled and elderly could be decimated even as costs go up for all of us as quality declines.

21. And for the fact that white supremacists and Neo Nazis have found a new lease on life.

I can go on all day. If you were actively working against Gore or Hillary's elections, you are complicit all day long and responsible for the right wing fallout.