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Demsrule86

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85. The story is that Sen Sanders wanted a primary opponent for President Obama. O'Malley brought it up.

Mon Jul 10, 2017, 06:04 PM

Jul 2017

in a debate. Read below...and consider that the Pugs had the house...and the president could get nothing done...but it was his fault...don't you know.

"July 22, 2011 Thom Hartmann Radio Program: "I think one of the reasons that the president has been able to move so far to the right is that there is no primary opposition to him, and I think it would do this country a good deal of service if people started thinking about candidates out there to begin contrasting what is a progressive agenda as opposed to what Obama is doing. … At this point, I have not (encouraged anyone), but I am now giving thought to it. There are a lot of smart, honest, progressive people who I think can be good presidents."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/martin-omalley/fact-checking-martin-omalleys-claim-bernie-sanders/

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What have Nader, Stein and the Green's accomplished, [View all] NYResister Jul 2017 OP

Do you mean what have they accomplished by running? Cause the Greens applegrove Jul 2017 #1

lol considering who the Greens Chevy Jul 2017 #3

I meant the Greens in Canada. Elizabeth May. And Europe. No i Don't like Stein. applegrove Jul 2017 #4

Fair enough, but Americas Greens are not the same Chevy Jul 2017 #5

agreed. NYResister Jul 2017 #30

This month, in British Columbia, a coalition New Democrat-Green government is going to be sworn in. Ken Burch Jul 2017 #61

No...when you bring eight years of Bush...nothing he said was even relevant. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #22

their goal was to defeat democrats so they got that JI7 Jul 2017 #2

Ignorance. KTM Jul 2017 #89

If you are referring to Stein and Nader, NYResister Jul 2017 #95

!! KTM Jul 2017 #96

So what was their goal? NYResister Jul 2017 #97

Well, they helped elect Trump. SunSeeker Jul 2017 #6

Before his candidacy in 2000 BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #7

Why...because of his war on one fucking car? I have no respect or admiration for Nader. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #23

You need to review your history BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #55

I don't give a damn what he did pre-2000...everything was wiped out with actions in elected George Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #88

You can damn him as much as you wish. BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #117

He improved nothing because electing Bush wiped out any environmental improvements. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #118

That's an absurdly myopic view of Nader's pre-Green career. Jim Lane Jul 2017 #58

Any merit he might have had is far outweighed by the disaster his running for president as a Green Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #87

Small minds agree KTM Jul 2017 #90

It's not hate, it's wondering why the hell such people NYResister Jul 2017 #100

Nader has always been a tool. hunter Jul 2017 #50

Not quite like the others. BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #54

If I ever buy new "consumer" goods besides food and clothing, just shoot me... hunter Jul 2017 #68

Based on your statements then, BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #116

I see a bunch of affluent world-eaters... hunter Jul 2017 #119

Whether you believe it or not, BlueMTexpat Jul 2017 #121

Let me give you a list. ashtonelijah Jul 2017 #8

Nicely stated! VOX Jul 2017 #11

I beg of you DonCoquixote Jul 2017 #13

+1 BzaDem Jul 2017 #62

Great post Gothmog Jul 2017 #17

4th request for this to be an OP. irisblue Jul 2017 #21

Great post...the Green are just as traitorous as Trump ET AL. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #24

Excellent post!! Worthy of its own OP!! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #31

That is perfect! NYResister Jul 2017 #32

BTW welcome to DU Gothmog Jul 2017 #42

Yep YCHDT Jul 2017 #48

Thank you! NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #49

BRAVO!!! And yes, please, please make this an OP! lunamagica Jul 2017 #65

Pretty much. joshcryer Jul 2017 #74

This is magnificent. betsuni Jul 2017 #84

This is absolute nonsense KTM Jul 2017 #91

Wow! NYResister Jul 2017 #98

The whole list?!?!!? YCHDT Jul 2017 #99

And you are right the list could go on all day...... lunasun Jul 2017 #105

Welcome Back to DU! RandiFan1290 Jul 2017 #9

Welcome BACK ? KTM Jul 2017 #92

Brarack Obama was not thwarted by the mighty Green Party. n/t DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #10

8 years of a real republican reminds even dumb people that the gop and the dems are not the same La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2017 #16

Had Sen. Sanders primaryed Obama as he wanted to, Pres. Obama probably would have lost with Green Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #18

Average people liked Barack Obama. n/t DefenseLawyer Jul 2017 #38

I worked that election. It is my opinion that a primary opponent would have given us president Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #86

The concept that someone would primary President Obama is really sad Gothmog Jul 2017 #81

The story is that Sen Sanders wanted a primary opponent for President Obama. O'Malley brought it up. Demsrule86 Jul 2017 #85

Stein helped to keep Americans sleeping when is comes to election tampering... NCTraveler Jul 2017 #12

In retrospect... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #34

How much of the money donated to Stein were pocketed by Stein? Gothmog Jul 2017 #43

Not an accomplishment really.... quickesst Jul 2017 #14

Due to Nader's stupidity, we have Citizens United and have lost a key section of voting rights act Gothmog Jul 2017 #15

The Iraq war is far beyond Nader NobodyHere Jul 2017 #122

What have posts G_j Jul 2017 #19

Hopefully educate people enough that they think better of jumping into a camp that pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #20

then I imagine you would appreciate G_j Jul 2017 #25

Not only did I live thru the time, listen, process and consider; but, I also pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #26

Actually, I was referring to this particular event G_j Jul 2017 #28

crickets...always crickets when this gets posted..funny that...n/t Fix The Stupid Jul 2017 #33

No. I was on the phone. Now I am taking a shower so I can get my flat tire fixed. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #41

I would like to believe that we are all NYResister Jul 2017 #40

Just to note, people died fighting for the right to vote. G_j Jul 2017 #46

We are in complete agreement on that. NYResister Jul 2017 #47

I think there comes a point where true statesmen lapucelle Jul 2017 #107

fascinating how the Congressional Black Caucus members G_j Jul 2017 #112

You're misreading what I'm saying. lapucelle Jul 2017 #113

Thanks for clarifying G_j Jul 2017 #114

It would explain why Ted Kennedy didn't join the CBC in its protest. lapucelle Jul 2017 #115

Call attention to the fact that Nader was funded by Karl Rove Gothmog Jul 2017 #44

Division of the electorate liberal N proud Jul 2017 #27

What the F***ever... HopeAgain Jul 2017 #29

Of course it's their right. NYResister Jul 2017 #35

No, Trump voters elected Trump. HopeAgain Jul 2017 #36

I disagree. NYResister Jul 2017 #37

So what? HopeAgain Jul 2017 #39

Why do you say that? Support for Nader dropped by 90% from 2000-2004. BzaDem Jul 2017 #63

Yes it is, pretty much Freddie Jul 2017 #51

Oh, their conscience, so so pure. I'm sure little Ethan Chandler apprecietes what lunamagica Jul 2017 #78

Classic scapegoating nt HopeAgain Jul 2017 #80

We are talking about the greens. I'm really sorry you think that mentioning this child's tragedy lunamagica Jul 2017 #82

So why are you blaming the Greens and not the millions who don't vote? HopeAgain Jul 2017 #109

Wrong. NYResister Jul 2017 #103

A vote for Stein was a vote for trump Gothmog Jul 2017 #45

Ok, a vote for Johnson was therefore a vote for Clinton. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #52

No a vote for either third party candidate was a vote for Trump Gothmog Jul 2017 #57

That makes no sense. Voltaire2 Jul 2017 #60

Maybe a vote for Gore HopeAgain Jul 2017 #53

No one in their right mind thought that Nader had a chance Gothmog Jul 2017 #59

Not my point... Nt HopeAgain Jul 2017 #72

Amen KTM Jul 2017 #93

and some can't ever admit it was their fault. NYResister Jul 2017 #101

That would be a good question-if any significant group of folks here were defending Nader and Stein. Ken Burch Jul 2017 #56

one simple thing could have helped make it possible to work for change, NYResister Jul 2017 #64

If you're talking about HRC this year, I campaigned for her. Ken Burch Jul 2017 #67

I'm very confused as to how anyone who considers themself to be left leaning, NYResister Jul 2017 #70

What I meant was that I was trying hard to make the case to them. Ken Burch Jul 2017 #71

Strange. There was plenty of coverage on the issues where I live. NYResister Jul 2017 #75

Based on your posting name, you live in NY(I'm assuming probably NYC) Ken Burch Jul 2017 #79

Now I'm really confused. NYResister Jul 2017 #83

More Democrats voted for Bush in 2000 than voted for Nader. alarimer Jul 2017 #66

We don't pretend they are liberals JI7 Jul 2017 #69

Well, "we" are wrong. KTM Jul 2017 #94

Just to clarify, you are claiming that the Democrats who voted for Bush were liberals? n/t BzaDem Jul 2017 #120

Who were they? NYResister Jul 2017 #102

One observation. Nader and Stein are both multi-millionaires whose way of life will not be still_one Jul 2017 #73

And that's a very clear observation. NYResister Jul 2017 #76

Nader gave w bush election Jill gave trump election TEB Jul 2017 #77

A not insignificant reason we lost to Trump... Else You Are Mad Jul 2017 #104

But here's the thing I just can't get over, NYResister Jul 2017 #106

Unified hate and contempt toward them all? NurseJackie Jul 2017 #108

Don't call them "GREENS" MFM008 Jul 2017 #110

I agree. NYResister Jul 2017 #111