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luvtheGWN

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45. So the Swiss, instead of paying their government through taxes,
Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:21 PM
Jul 2017

pay the insurance companies directly, with no shopping around for the lowest premiums, no co-pays, no deductibles, I assume.

We folks up here in the GWN pay through our taxes, for medical coverage -- doctor visits, specialist visits, surgeries (but not for medically unnecessary surgeries such as plastics). Most employers provide supplemental health benefits (vision, dental, drugs, physical therapy etc.) as part of the employment package for full-time employees. Us retirees (depending on the company) may or may not have the same benefits package, and if not, many of us pay for supplemental out of our own pockets (but many do not). Our health insurance companies are extremely "healthy" and in fact some have even bought up American companies (SunLife purchased John Hancock several years ago, for example). So the pols who issue the dire warning that insurance companies will go out of business if universal health insurance is brought in are talking through their hats. And oh yes, pharma companies are restricted in their advertising here. An ad for Cialis or Viagra may show up on TV or in magazines, but you'd never know from the ad exactly what either of them are for. It's quite funny, actually -- a man and a woman in separate bathtubs on a beach -- WTF!!!!!!!!

One quibble I have is that our medicare for all does not cover dental, and since our entire gastroenterology system starts in the mouth, I think it's a big mistake not to cover that part of our anatomy.

The GOP likes to spread many lies about our healthcare system, and never differentiates between waiting lists for elective or non-life-threatening conditions and those -- heart, stroke, cancer, and other life-threatening conditions -- where you automatically go to the head of the line. Gee, could that be why we Canucks can expect to live longer than Americans (according to statistics)?

E X A C T L Y. [View all] kpete Jul 2017 OP
+1 liberal N proud Jul 2017 #1
K&R... spanone Jul 2017 #2
Thank you, kpete! SalviaBlue Jul 2017 #3
Right the fuck there! Iggo Jul 2017 #4
But, but............. MyOwnPeace Jul 2017 #5
K&R. nt tblue37 Jul 2017 #6
Incorrect, wrong, and he isn't a doctor snooper2 Jul 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author LittleGirl Jul 2017 #13
When profit is you main focus, not healthcare onit2day Jul 2017 #17
Well, not exactly Mountain Mule Jul 2017 #26
In Canada our taxes pay for healthcare robbob Jul 2017 #28
😪 it's a sin, what private profit does. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #30
Had the same experience living in Ontario as a teenager B Stieg Jul 2017 #41
So the Swiss, instead of paying their government through taxes, luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #45
I had no idea Hartmann had a PhD. In fact I don't think he finished college. YOHABLO Jul 2017 #8
He has a Ph.D. from Looneytunes U. ucrdem Jul 2017 #12
Ha ha ha. progressoid Jul 2017 #29
He has an honorary degree... Trial_By_Fire Jul 2017 #16
in homeopathy snooper2 Jul 2017 #18
What he claims, I believe, is mostly true. So it would have been better to have said "most". YOHABLO Jul 2017 #38
We're supposed to be the party that respects facts and data.... ehrnst Jul 2017 #9
Nonsense. You're cherry picking. Look at Germany onit2day Jul 2017 #19
Nonsense. The meme didn't say "Germany" ehrnst Jul 2017 #27
Germany (2012), hospitals: 833 public, 1,040 private non-profit, 1,356 private for-profit. ucrdem Jul 2017 #40
Exactement! Mme. Defarge Jul 2017 #10
They probably also don't graduate their MD's with $300K of debt. Barack_America Jul 2017 #11
+1,000!!! AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #14
K & R cate94 Jul 2017 #15
Thom Hartmann 100% correct Timmygoat Jul 2017 #20
The lobbyists for Big Pharma and Insur Co. are basically killing us help with help from the GOP. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #21
Just the way Republicans want it... LakeArenal Jul 2017 #22
Yup...we have had generations of people live and die with this system so Bromwell Jul 2017 #23
I've worked for both for and non profit healthcare orgs mcar Jul 2017 #24
They also have better outcomes. Mickju Jul 2017 #25
TickTickTickTickTickTick. Oh I wish benld74 Jul 2017 #31
"For Profit" and "health care" should Lifelong Protester Jul 2017 #32
Dr Thom? Please spare me. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #33
EXACTLY is right. nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #34
Thom Hartmann has owned for profit businesses IronLionZion Jul 2017 #35
TRUTH southerncrone Jul 2017 #36
that isn't the entire reason dsc Jul 2017 #37
This turns out to be mostly false. ucrdem Jul 2017 #39
When I lived in Australia, they called it . . . MrModerate Jul 2017 #44
k and r...nt Stuart G Jul 2017 #42
And, frighteningly, tens of thousands of medical billing clerks . . . MrModerate Jul 2017 #43
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