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Hoyt

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7. Sorry, I disagree. People whining about vote tampering every time we lose does not help Dems.

Reply to ProfessorPlum (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 11, 2017, 12:37 PM

Jul 2017

We lost in 2004, and it hurt. I have never been so depressed after an election. But, whining about conspiracies, etc., in cases like Ohio and Florida, make us look like stupid and impotent.

"The reason Kerry lost the election had much more to do with the war in Iraq and terrorism than the political ground war in Ohio. Terrorism trumped other issues at the polls -- including moral values -- and anxious voters tended to side with Bush."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34157-2004Dec3.html

As long as 40% of Democrats sit at home and don't vote, we will lose a lot of elections. And this whining about the election is unfair, doesn't help the situation.

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"We'll never know" "We'll never know" "We'll never know". How about we fucking try to know? [View all] ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 OP

Kerry lost the minute Bin Laden released a video the Friday before the election. So, "everyone" did Hoyt Jul 2017 #1

what kind of BS is this? ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #2

You do realize that media consortium that recounted Florida mythology Jul 2017 #3

what I said was the evidence is quite clear that Russian hackers tried ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #4

more ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #5

ah, I see, what I wrote was not as clear as what I thought I wrote ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #6

Sorry, I disagree. People whining about vote tampering every time we lose does not help Dems. Hoyt Jul 2017 #7

this is a dumb position ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #8

Well, I grew up with paper ballots. Every election had lost/stolen ballot boxes, miscounted ballots Hoyt Jul 2017 #10

whatever dude ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #12

also, did it ever occur to you that one thing suppressing the vote ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #9

If I thought it were rigged, I wouldn't sit at home and not vote. That's for darn sure. Hoyt Jul 2017 #11

again, how will we know ProfessorPlum Jul 2017 #13