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Tigress DEM

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306. Part of the difficulty is the Right/Wrong concept itself. There is a middle too.

Wed Jul 11, 2012, 07:14 PM

Jul 2012

Part of the Christian teaching is that God is a God of Love. So people who live in that zone aren't living in fear at all. Right? Wrong? Who cares? There are people to feed and lonely people who don't know the love of God or the kindness of others. The things the OP listed as basic stuff Jesus did are "right enough" to keep most Christians busy.

A lot of Christians have had to simplify our belief structure and aren't attached to the multiple contradictory aspects of believing every single word in the Bible as complete and indisputable truth. Lutherans, Unitarians. None of it is necessarily perfect; but what is?

There is a term for Catholics I heard a while ago that applies to Catholics who pick and choose what to believe and what to discard or leave alone; Cafeteria Catholics. I'm sure it's considered derogatory by many, but I know some who are proud to call themselves that because they are thinking Catholics and have no easy answer for the contradictions, but have faith that it will all work out eventually. They are more concerned with doing good and keeping their own noses clean than being politically in line with the Pope.

I left the Catholic Church because that felt dishonest to me, but I was pretty much a cafeteria catholic before I left. Realize too that Vatican II in 1965 changed a lot of things, but things swung back to conservative in the late '90's so I had to choose to adjust myself to the Church's changes or stay true to the beliefs I had growing up. Staying true to myself meant leaving the Church.

But in my mind and heart, my personal relationship with Christ wasn't something I picked up and left behind at church. It is something that is mine and it goes with me wherever I go. I was born to my parents at a hospital and moved with them until I was 18, but they were no less my parents when I moved out and started living independently. God is no less my God because I left the church where I met Him and made my commitment to Him.

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When did so many (not all) "christians" become hateful psychopaths? [View all] NightWatcher Jul 2012 OP

Because they have their own version of extreme Madrassa's. n/t Bonhomme Richard Jul 2012 #1

Maybe during the Crusades??? nt nanabugg Jul 2012 #290

IMO they identify "christian" with European culture treestar Jul 2012 #2

Of course that's just bullshit. Look at Ken Hutcherson, for example Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #11

Well the ones I know are treestar Jul 2012 #23

DU is a tough school some days. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #273

not all but a large majority are Anglo, sorry if people can't accept that but its backed up by NavyDavy Jul 2012 #106

The title of this OP strains to make the distnction between 'so many' and 'all'. Yet the post I Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #115

Have you been to West Africa sulphurdunn Jul 2012 #155

Really? emilyg Jul 2012 #255

You are so right. I have noticed this for quite asjr Jul 2012 #3

"God's people" are certainly ungodly, aren't they? mwb970 Jul 2012 #198

They can be. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #275

I left one church but I found a better one after a bit of a search. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #274

What do you mean 'When have they become'? Shadowflash Jul 2012 #4

What irks me Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2012 #6

They are all cults. obxhead Jul 2012 #76

They're all cults to me, as you say, some are just friendlier. And even RKP5637 Jul 2012 #101

I don't agree blueamy66 Jul 2012 #230

Either they are all cults or none of them are. obxhead Jul 2012 #252

um, look up the definition of cult blueamy66 Jul 2012 #253

Gee I guess I should look it up..... obxhead Jul 2012 #258

doesn't change my mind a BIT blueamy66 Jul 2012 #261

What does this have to do with parents? obxhead Jul 2012 #272

Here is a different perspective. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #289

I simply see no difference between the two words. obxhead Jul 2012 #295

Personally, I'm not greatly fond of religion itself either, so I understand more than most. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #298

I was raised United Methodist. My Mom at 90 still goes regularly. amandabeech Jul 2012 #259

Thank you buddy. blueamy66 Jul 2012 #260

There are precise, obvious and relevant differences between both the classical and the contemporary LanternWaste Feb 2014 #325

CULTS!!! Bingo! I was brought up JW and that piece of shit is a cult! Little Star Jul 2012 #221

Unitarian-Universalists are not explicitly christian. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #262

There are strongly liberal and leftist strands in both Protestant coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #15

May I quote you? And post it !*everywhere*! ???? BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2012 #52

Be my guest. Shadowflash Jul 2012 #97

Considering that the current pope used to run the Inquisition ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2012 #63

I don't think he's quite THAT old, but he was with Hitler's Youth Patrols. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #291

No kidding. I went to a parochial school in the early 1970s. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #153

I went to Catholic school for 13 years....even pre-school blueamy66 Jul 2012 #231

I hope you meet a better class of Christian's some day. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #293

Here's a dirty little secret: trotsky Jul 2012 #234

I disagree. It takes a lot of bravery to go up against the establishment. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #296

"I fear the very non-Christian people behind this whole smear campaign" trotsky Jul 2012 #318

Yep Taverner Jul 2012 #277

Never heard of him before but he seems like a thoughtful guy. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #297

You have the correct view. There's no use looking into the past for a period when dimbear Jul 2012 #287

Really? So then Americans are completely bad because of everything we've done too. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #300

Elmer Gantry is a fictional retelling of the actual scene as Lewis saw it. dimbear Jul 2012 #302

Right, but it's still fictional. I didn't say that "I" thought all Americans are bad. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #305

You and I aren't very far apart, really. I intentionally misunderstood you because you dimbear Jul 2012 #310

OK. In general we understand the human condition. That's good. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #313

Sign of the times............ dimbear Jul 2012 #315

I think this major influx goes back to David (KKK) Duke's 1992 loss Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #288

they forget to pray in dark places... madrchsod Jul 2012 #5

They are afraid aethia Jul 2012 #7

+ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #102

Conservatives tend towards binary thinking. Right/wrong. Black/white. Thor_MN Jul 2012 #168

A habit so strong, so old, so ALL pervasive that they are almost completely unaware of it, patrice Jul 2012 #285

huge DISAGREE blueamy66 Jul 2012 #233

I think aethia is referring to in general, on average and you are referring to one specific case/you patrice Jul 2012 #280

Part of the difficulty is the Right/Wrong concept itself. There is a middle too. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #306

Reads as though you may be like me, in love with the mystery that we Catholics used to call the patrice Jul 2012 #308

I relate to Republicans who think their party actually deserted them. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #309

I'm happy to have met you, Tigress DEM! patrice Jul 2012 #311

Glad someone is!! Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #314

Agree, on average. The last emotion to disappear from a living brain/nervous system is Fear. patrice Jul 2012 #281

I'm afraid, but not of the things you mentioned. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #304

Since Saul of Tarsus, actually. malthaussen Jul 2012 #8

It has to do with the loss of U.S. empire, too. yardwork Jul 2012 #14

I think about that original Rollerball a lot, too. It doesn't get enough credit... villager Jul 2012 #47

I do think thatr's one facet of it Plucketeer Jul 2012 #74

Don't be surprised when the mega churches... amerciti001 Jul 2012 #146

They have to be a little careful to protect their tax-exempt status. Not much, but a little. yardwork Jul 2012 #147

It was the root of all evil that enabled them. zeemike Jul 2012 #42

That was what I was going to say. All warped to stay/get rich, idolizing the rich. Saw it up close. freshwest Jul 2012 #108

"prosperity theology" handmade34 Jul 2012 #152

Joel Osteen receives over $10K a day in donations. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #263

Aye malthaussen you've said it clearly. turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #89

I too, am an ELCA Bohunk68 Jul 2012 #199

Unfortunately, he was the most eloquent scumbag whoever lived Tom Ripley Jul 2012 #92

+1. IMO, too many people mistake selfishness, and ruthlessness, as signs of good leadership skills. Zorra Jul 2012 #107

Intriguing response, sorry I wasn't around when you made it. malthaussen Jul 2012 #249

I had a dog named Cain. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #264

I agree wholeheartedly. Great post. DevonRex Jul 2012 #139

Hey DevonRex! Long time no see! yardwork Jul 2012 #144

Hey yardie! DevonRex Jul 2012 #149

Interesting interpretation quakerboy Jul 2012 #226

The way I interpret the NT tells me there was a helluva power struggle going on malthaussen Jul 2012 #250

Saul/Paul is not my favorite, but some of his oppression of women.... Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #316

1970s. The Republicans figured out a way to stay in power by coopting churches. yardwork Jul 2012 #9

Well said. I agree. Overseas Jul 2012 #45

+1...Well done. russspeakeasy Jul 2012 #61

Exactly!!! The "faithful" will blindly follow, it attracts a lemming type personality IMO. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #105

Partially true, but an over generalization Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #321

That's a good point in that differentiation. Wow, there are really 38,000 Christian denominations .. RKP5637 Jul 2012 #324

Spot on. The Right's "Southern Strategy" pales in comparison to their "Christian Strategy." SunSeeker Jul 2012 #141

Yes, this! liberalmuse Jul 2012 #206

Wow. You nailed it, yardwork, dead center. Excellent post. n/t VOX Jul 2012 #312

They certainly arent acting like Christians. DCBob Jul 2012 #10

You forgot "Blessed are the cheesemakers" (my shout-out to coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #17

Not sure that was part of the original sermon but it sounds good. DCBob Jul 2012 #24

From Monty Python's "Life of Brian" (which has coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #29

I never saw "Life of Brian" DCBob Jul 2012 #32

Won't spoil LoB for you except to say that, if coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #53

Ive have partied with some former UW grads many years ago and I can only imagine. DCBob Jul 2012 #55

One of the best speeches ever made - pretty long too panzerfaust Jul 2012 #56

There is tremendous wisdom in those words. DCBob Jul 2012 #60

Problem is, when they read such, they see THEMSELVES, not others as the blessed ones... Moonwalk Jul 2012 #69

You're so right, Moonwalk! fxmakeupguy Jul 2012 #99

Well said!!! Often I wonder where it's going to end, some type of RKP5637 Jul 2012 #123

But there's more! like how do they explain this in relation to their relentless search for wealth Ghost of Huey Long Jul 2012 #162

I would imagine that they if they are giving their money to the church... Moonwalk Jul 2012 #270

They have no explanation for their 'praying' in public, applauding themselves for being so 'holy' Ghost of Huey Long Jul 2012 #163

Certainly a tougher one for them to explain away, but-- Moonwalk Jul 2012 #271

I thought that was why they are against campaign contribution transparency. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #319

Precisely. Brilliantly stated. trotsky Jul 2012 #235

I've been hearing more "prosperity gospel" lately Nevernose Jul 2012 #12

several times when channel surfing.. oldhippydude Jul 2012 #64

Joyce Myer .. What a brassy broad. YOHABLO Jul 2012 #171

God has some of the nicest houses on the planet. --nt CrispyQ Jul 2012 #79

Salem Witch Trials Aerows Jul 2012 #13

It's interesting that your post appeared right after #12 because those were land grabs! yardwork Jul 2012 #16

Indeed they were :) Aerows Jul 2012 #84

and the church in the dark/middle ages creating the modern marriage was for gaining land.... NavyDavy Jul 2012 #110

I call it Tabloid Christianity rucky Jul 2012 #18

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I used to hate being hounded while walking down the street AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #19

Bwa-ha-ha. Great Mormon story. I would have said I hoped to return as a flea coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #21

Good for you! RegieRocker Jul 2012 #27

Heh!! AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #28

Are you being cynical RegieRocker Jul 2012 #30

You probably have met buddhists. Just did not know it. geckosfeet Jul 2012 #34

You are sweet but.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #36

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try this.. AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #39

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"You will go to hell . . . " MrTwister Jul 2012 #167

Believe it or not, there was a time back in the 1940s and 50s when coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #22

That's Because Iggy Jul 2012 #38

In some of the early protests against bombing Afghanistan and coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #41

It has always been that way RegieRocker Jul 2012 #25

Very good post. nt Live and Learn Jul 2012 #117

Excellent analysis!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #127

I'm going to disagree, slightly. It isn't humans so much as humans in GROUPS KurtNYC Jul 2012 #202

Read this 7wo7rees Jul 2012 #26

"It" by Stephen King, was the scariest book I'd ever read, CrispyQ Jul 2012 #88

Yep, say the God word in America, spout some Jesus, thump the bible a RKP5637 Jul 2012 #129

Since they were hijacked by right wing politicians. undeterred Jul 2012 #31

They became hateful Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #33

And that empty void they had has been filled with evilness and hatred. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #130

When they started listening to reich wing radio... Iggy Jul 2012 #35

I think you are spot on with your mercymechap Jul 2012 #82

Around 1095 AD. The Doctor. Jul 2012 #40

Why just pick on Christians? Many Muslims and Jews are just as bad. It's a thing about all totodeinhere Jul 2012 #43

Your statement is in the right direction, Muslim are considered as ultra conserative Thinkingabout Jul 2012 #57

because Christians are always attacking other religions for the things the Christian say are hateful NavyDavy Jul 2012 #112

I don't think that Christinas have a monoploy on that sort of thing either. n/t totodeinhere Jul 2012 #134

Christians are supposed to be above using God's name to subjugate others meow2u3 Jul 2012 #157

Christians are being "picked on" (Waaaahhhhhh!!!!) because Zoeisright Jul 2012 #154

I am an equal opportunity hater Marrah_G Jul 2012 #232

one word - Fundamentalists. mzteris Jul 2012 #44

During the Crusades Chorophyll Jul 2012 #46

rise of Reagonomics, Right Wing and Fundamentalists happened together CleanLucre Jul 2012 #48

The "mean" ones are also seems to be very anti-abortion but against taking care of children Thinkingabout Jul 2012 #49

Around the year zero. Iggo Jul 2012 #50

Well said. Exactly the points I am constantly mulling over. joanbarnes Jul 2012 #51

Major KnR's BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2012 #54

Not sure, but the time I noticed it was in the early 70's. I was a... Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2012 #58

That's pretty much my experience too Populist_Prole Jul 2012 #142

FEAR. bigendian Jul 2012 #59

When they started telling people how they must live liberal N proud Jul 2012 #62

This belongs in Religion, not here. valerief Jul 2012 #65

This is not a debate about theology NightWatcher Jul 2012 #68

It belongs in Religion not here. nt valerief Jul 2012 #70

Then click "hide" and feel free to ignore NightWatcher Jul 2012 #73

This belongs in Religion, not here. marble falls Jul 2012 #196

Christianity is taught differently in the west Harmony Blue Jul 2012 #75

This belongs in Religion not here. nt valerief Jul 2012 #77

But it is primarily a discussion of the religous right, and how the perversion of a Zorra Jul 2012 #138

You touched on what I've thought for some time now, the desire by some christians RKP5637 Jul 2012 #135

If they had inner strength, they would get up and walk out. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #265

no its in the right place.....its not about theology its a discussion about behavior of a certain NavyDavy Jul 2012 #116

"No posts about...religion" I Love a Mystery Jul 2012 #185

I disagree Skittles Jul 2012 #170

Amazing how DU's 'christians' don't want this openly discussed, isn't it? Occulus Jul 2012 #205

Well, now I know where YouTube posters hang out when they're not there. I Love a Mystery Jul 2012 #215

If your religion had not Occulus Jul 2012 #237

I hear you, Occulus Skittles Jul 2012 #254

wow- Bluerthanblue Jul 2012 #66

The problem with religious fantatacism isn't the religion. It's the fanatacism. rocktivity Jul 2012 #67

That sort has always been there. The current crop... JHB Jul 2012 #71

Because the GOP decided to use religion as a wedge issue. nt bupkus Jul 2012 #72

But when were Christians ever truly "Christians" Jessy169 Jul 2012 #78

Exceptionally well said IMO!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #137

They are easily led Loudestlib Jul 2012 #80

Good post. The social justice people left and the angry/scared took over the leadership uppityperson Jul 2012 #113

i think it is because to cindyperry2010 Jul 2012 #81

Well said. I have absolutely no use for religion anymore. I left years ago. Today to RKP5637 Jul 2012 #83

About the 4th century. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jul 2012 #85

Single Issue voters: Abortion Ruby the Liberal Jul 2012 #86

Four events triggered this: Civil rights, roe vs. wade, Jerry Falwell and Raygun. jwirr Jul 2012 #87

They pushed out and alienated all the liberal mainline Christians bluestateguy Jul 2012 #90

It's been a long-term process ladym55 Jul 2012 #91

Very relevant and very nice post. truedelphi Jul 2012 #176

k&r TxVietVet Jul 2012 #93

when Bushco started buying their votes, of course 2pooped2pop Jul 2012 #94

yeah the faith-based initiatives NavyDavy Jul 2012 #119

Jesus did a lot of asskicking in the NT. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #266

it started with a few false christians fueling an us-vs-them war 30+ yrs ago. ellenfl Jul 2012 #95

Some people accept their religious lifestyle with grace...others have a problem because... Tikki Jul 2012 #96

What a great series of posts and perceptions! turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #98

when did so many (not all) liberals become judgemental bigots? hfojvt Jul 2012 #100

Hey look, A Jets fan. Are you Tim Tebow? NightWatcher Jul 2012 #103

TANJ, Busted hfojvt Jul 2012 #128

It's not just a "few bad apples" and it's not just 1000 people..... tpsbmam Jul 2012 #172

sorta moving away from food stamps and death hfojvt Jul 2012 #192

I became judgmental when I started getting religious laws forced down my throat. Shadowflash Jul 2012 #111

Well how could I have forgotten hfojvt Jul 2012 #118

Perhaps you missed the part of the OP Shadowflash Jul 2012 #122

"so many" does not sound like a "small minority" hfojvt Jul 2012 #140

the oped did not state all Christians, show me some proof that food stamps are being used by most NavyDavy Jul 2012 #124

so the OP can start a thread about a "few bad apples" hfojvt Jul 2012 #145

Well for religious laws, JoeyT Jul 2012 #173

I would guess that most anti-gay laws were on the books before I was born hfojvt Jul 2012 #193

Your guess is wrong. Occulus Jul 2012 #208

I know you are hfojvt Jul 2012 #217

"the halcyon (as imagined by us old farts) days of the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s. Occulus Jul 2012 #222

condemnation or non-condemntation was really not the issue at hand hfojvt Jul 2012 #251

Apparently if you say "not ALL" then you can smear 99% I Love a Mystery Jul 2012 #181

If this exact OP had been made but about any other religion 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #203

True, but IF the conversation can result in more tolerance on both sides, it's worth it. Tigress DEM Jul 2012 #292

Sometimes I think a large majority of them don't really believe in it. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #104

I have a simple explaination for them Chisox08 Jul 2012 #109

You can do and say anything and be a Christian. The label is meaningless. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #132

There is a possibility that all the hell and damnation stuff CJCRANE Jul 2012 #158

Which means atheists are more moral than religious people. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #161

+1000 Shadowflash Jul 2012 #195

From the beginning. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #114

Well as a Jew (yup will burn in Hell, so there) nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #120

Churches are for worshiping your God RC Jul 2012 #121

Maybe there is a hell. Zorra Jul 2012 #125

Christianity has always been used to disguise selfish, hateful attitudes. Kablooie Jul 2012 #126

I sympathize. I never fit in with my family DevonRex Jul 2012 #131

There are many false teachers just as Jesus warned think Jul 2012 #133

Because we have two forms of religion-Corporate Religion fredamae Jul 2012 #136

Because that's what religion does Scootaloo Jul 2012 #143

Maybe they should be called Levicites since they are more interested in old Bible Laws ErikJ Jul 2012 #148

Jesus said a lot of hateful and cruel stuff in The NT. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #267

In the US Flatpicker Jul 2012 #150

My neighbors go to church every sunday to the cool and groovy born again mega church.. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #151

People of the church were also blind during the days of Jesus on earth... L0oniX Jul 2012 #156

Cafeteria Christians. DeSwiss Jul 2012 #159

When did so many (not all) "atheists" become hateful psychopaths? bananas Jul 2012 #160

The invention of the Internet? I Love a Mystery Jul 2012 #184

THANK YOU! marble falls Jul 2012 #197

Just about any religion can lead to hate against nonbelievers. MrTwister Jul 2012 #164

It would have been before the Inquisition. aquart Jul 2012 #165

I would suggest some hateful psychopaths use religion as a front for their hate.... Thor_MN Jul 2012 #169

when?, sometime between 1977 and 1980 as far as mainstream American Evangelicals are concerned Douglas Carpenter Jul 2012 #174

This is bullshit moderators! If someone posted this same shit about Muslims or Hindus it would be nonoxy9 Jul 2012 #175

........... Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #179

of course. THAT would be offensive. RitchieRich Jul 2012 #201

US Muslims and US Hindus don't persecute others on a national level Occulus Jul 2012 #211

as far as the "(not all)" part of your OP - truedelphi Jul 2012 #177

No Fear, I have seen the list and Satan has their names written down Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #178

I wouldn't worry. Assuming Christianity is true, I think it said somewhere in the Bible Proles Jul 2012 #180

thats why it's called left wing Christian. PatrynXX Jul 2012 #182

About 1200 years ago. HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #183

I've never met anyone righteous and self-righteous. Igel Jul 2012 #186

Fortunately, there are many Christians who are not like that. Barack Obama, Joe Biden, the Clintons, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #187

As soon as they were strong enough to do so Alcibiades Jul 2012 #188

Because they know religion is just culture, babbling to itself? DirkGently Jul 2012 #189

The answer is, in fact, 1964.... drb Jul 2012 #190

Agree. LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act in 1964. The southern white churches mostly were SDjack Jul 2012 #283

Very good questions Heathen57 Jul 2012 #191

Indeed it does make one wonder doesn't it ? Wash. state Desk Jet Jul 2012 #194

Neat!! Now can I start spewing hatred for Buddhism and Judaism too? RitchieRich Jul 2012 #200

If you wish to be banned 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #204

Please. liberalmuse Jul 2012 #207

have we been reading from different posts? RitchieRich Jul 2012 #209

I am a victim of christian controls every single day of my life. Occulus Jul 2012 #210

This hate you point at me is not my doing RitchieRich Jul 2012 #213

Your religion is not you yourself Occulus Jul 2012 #227

I do not preach hate RitchieRich Jul 2012 #241

We ALL tend to lump everyone together. turtlerescue1 Jul 2012 #247

There is nothing more annoying then having someone say "I'll pray for you" Marrah_G Jul 2012 #229

I'm sorry if I've offended you RitchieRich Jul 2012 #238

The "pain" you feel over being "attacked" (which you yourself are not) is as nothing compared to Occulus Jul 2012 #239

I am a member of my social group RitchieRich Jul 2012 #243

Good for you. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #246

you are not a victim Marrah_G Jul 2012 #244

Would you be happy if Obama, Biden, the Kennedys, and Jimmy Carter renounced their Christianity? nt Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #220

Yes. Occulus Jul 2012 #223

Yes, I would be. Marrah_G Jul 2012 #236

Yep. If you start a "why do so many Muslims believe that they will be rewarded with 72 virgins Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #212

That is because US Muslims do not persecute people Occulus Jul 2012 #214

Funny, I've never felt "persecuted" by Christians such as Obama, Biden, the Kennedys, the Clintons, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #219

Clinton signed DOMA into law. Occulus Jul 2012 #224

OK, that was a disgrace. I will certainly concede that (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #225

That's what they're taught. zinnisking Jul 2012 #216

Really - 200+ posts and not a single mention of Joseph McCarthy? Initech Jul 2012 #218

as we were sitting, waiting for a bed at rehab.... blueamy66 Jul 2012 #228

There have ALWAYS been strong currents of right-wing Christianity in the United States.... YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #240

imho, you are referencing the pagan/neopagan demonic crew that has been with US ever since Creation. bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #242

Please elaborate on this "unstability" in the natural sciences. I'm curious. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #257

Climate change, for one...n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2012 #268

Unstable? The scientists agree on climate change. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2012 #294

About the same time that many humans (not all) became hateful psychopaths. LanternWaste Jul 2012 #245

+1. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #248

Kick because the right people don't like this OP. 2ndAmForComputers Jul 2012 #256

You do understand kctim Jul 2012 #269

Because they are reading the Bible Taverner Jul 2012 #276

It could also be because they haven't read the Bible ... spin Jul 2012 #307

When the KKK stopped being a powerful force in our culture, they went Religious Right n/t arcane1 Jul 2012 #278

Fundies aligned with the KKK RainDog Jul 2012 #317

The instant they acquired any political power. enki23 Jul 2012 #279

When they all stopped being Methodists, Catholics, HockeyMom Jul 2012 #282

Look at the vast majority of posts on DU lemurian sistah Jul 2012 #284

Agree. I'd bet there is a high probability that the dominant trait(s) are negative. nt patrice Jul 2012 #286

I knew they were hateful psychopaths back in the 1960s. Zoeisright Jul 2012 #299

When did they not? liberalmuse Jul 2012 #301

When they started to get a sense of political power. Justpat Jul 2012 #303

The ironic thing is, the Christian Right has lost a lot of power in society at large.... YoungDemCA Jul 2012 #320

What I frequently fail to understand Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #322

I see hate on both sides of the political spectrum. Beacool Jul 2012 #323

... 840high Feb 2014 #326

I forgot I wrote that. Beacool Feb 2014 #327